Lifting for 2 years...claims natural (pics)

[EnforcerOTF]

That's natty, he's not. He's small, not even that shredded, no 3d delts, and has the worlds most punchable face

[scudda]

How come so many people are ripped but they still get that bloated face? I mean if you reach like 10% bf your face totally shrinks in. Even matt ogus looks do puffed up when he is shredded.

[Mightymuddy]

no legs were seen that day
good lighting and pump, but he's done well so far
can't judge just based on these pictctures though

Question: Can you tell he's on a pump? Is that why his muscles kind of look different?

[Smithers115]

Based on looks and use of KG

He is Australian and therefore not natty

[Joeyfresh95]

Only thing that looks a little off is the thickness of his neck but overall he looks pretty natty. If he did wrestling or some chit in hs then he prob is.

[JevBRUHHH]

Question: Can you tell he's on a pump? Is that why his muscles kind of look different?

one of them def looks like a gym changing room
plus id pump up if i was taking pics like that , maybe not the abs only one

[n4evar06]

How come so many people are ripped but they still get that bloated face? I mean if you reach like 10% bf your face totally shrinks in. Even matt ogus looks do puffed up when he is shredded.

errmmm have a read on some side effects of dat dere. (not saying that this guy is natty/non natty I don't know or care)

[anonymous]

[CoryBlood]

no legs were seen that day
good lighting and pump, but he's done well so far
can't judge just based on these pictctures though

Are you an alien brah?

[nonamewut]

looks natty imo

[Domina8r]

Looks natty to me (srs)

[GDPONE]

I dont get dudes like this. Scream natty as loud as they can but obviously not. Just be real *******.

[n4s]

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His face bloat at that bf makes me incline towards him being on the juicy juice

[Tomato15]

'creatine'

watch what happens when he goes off it

[NeggedHard]

>#natty

Definitely not natty

but strong lighting + pump

[Devils]

crappy training routine, check,
crappy bulking routine, check,
huge progress in 2 years check,
claims natty, check.


I got bad news son

[Diesel0022]

lol hes not even that big

That's what I was gonna say

[TheGainsBrah]

judging by his minimal knowledge, doubt he achieved that naturally.

That being said, such physique is attainable natty imo

[meteoraniac]

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strong legs of peace... any shot taken of his legs?

[fozT]

Not natty - looks good though. I don't see why everyone freaks out if someone is on juice - still have to put the work in.

[kosich]

Lol, he sounds like he doesn't know shyt about lifting/nutrition

[Divall213]

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If anyone thinks this is obtainable natty within 2 years, even with Ronnie Coleman genetics, is Fuking delusional.

And I blame this on the youtube fitness industry and/or supp companies putting people supporting natural supps who obviously are not.

Not that I have a problem with the above, just explaining peoples' mindset

[BaconEggs]

He looks australian so def not natty

[Syriuz]

If anyone thinks this is obtainable natty within 2 years, even with Ronnie Coleman genetics, is Fuking delusional.

And I blame this on the youtube fitness industry and/or supp companies putting people supporting natural supps who obviously are not.

Not that I have a problem with the above, just explaining peoples' mindset

This. I can't believe even misc can be this gullible.

[Andrei93]

Guy clearly doesn't know what the **** hes talking about. Probs not natty unless manlet with good genetics.

[naich]

its achievable you lazy tards...onlt problem is he is retarded and that leeds us to believe he is fruading. i know half a dozen kids who are that big and couldnt tell you the difference between creatine and a pre workout. its called genetics and retard strength/determination.

also it says "proper training" for 2 years... for all we know hes been at it since age 12 and he didnt count 4 years of lifting cause he only did arms and chest. too many variables.

[Cjjlpsp]

Attainable natty, but not in 2 years. Especially with his laughable nutrition/lifting routine

[plznodemondrop]

He admitted using creatine, there's your answer.

LOL at guys saying he could be natty when the admittance to using creatine is in the OP

[Devils]

If anyone thinks this is obtainable natty within 2 years, even with Ronnie Coleman genetics, is Fuking delusional.

And I blame this on the youtube fitness industry and/or supp companies putting people supporting natural supps who obviously are not.

Not that I have a problem with the above, just explaining peoples' mindset

correct, why do you think the supplement industry is so huge, take creatine and hydrowhey and you'll get these gains in 2 years, if you don't hey maybe you forgot to buy glutimine, beta alanine, l-carnatine, green tea extract, nitric oxide....

[Skarm]

Physique is achievable, depends on age, height and what he looked like befor he started lifting. If you don't have a before picture, you can't really say whether the 2 years was natty or not.