ITT Recommend me an alternative to Jack3d

[mdetwile]

I really enjoyed Jack3d but want to try something else. Looking solely at preworkouts, maybe with a BCAA combo, my other stuff is in check.

I've tried White Flood, NO Xplode, and straight caffeine, but preferred Jack3d so far.

Would prefer to stay clear of the C Labs products. I've had at least 3 of their tubs clump up on me and become unusable and it's just not worth the hassle.

Baby reps for good suggestions, and flavors!

[jdaring]

I really enjoyed Jack3d but want to try something else. Looking solely at preworkouts, maybe with a BCAA combo, my other stuff is in check.

I've tried White Flood, NO Xplode, and straight caffeine, but preferred Jack3d so far.

Would prefer to stay clear of the C Labs products. I've had at least 3 of their tubs clump up on me and become unusable and it's just not worth the hassle.

Baby reps for good suggestions, and flavors!

If you want stim heavy go with hemo rage ultra concentrate, it's really heavy on stims and compares favorably to jack3d. If you want something not loaded with 1,3 dimeth try litup, i am digging the sample bottle i got of it.

[NDiMa7]

Assault blue raspberry. Assault has lots of good reviews and the taste is great.

[Fitzwell]

AEN Presurge caps or Presurge Unleashed (if you prefer more stims)
&
XF Vengeance

are both must tries Imo

[rebelprettyboy]

Two good products is Plasmatic EP and Methyl Mass EP. Plasmatic will give you sick pump and a little energy kick. Methyl Mass will give you some clean, smooth energy with no crash.

I also like
Bullnox Androush
And AllMax Musle Prime is solid

[wayprotein]

I really enjoyed Jack3d but want to try something else. Looking solely at preworkouts, maybe with a BCAA combo, my other stuff is in check.

I've tried White Flood, NO Xplode, and straight caffeine, but preferred Jack3d so far.

Would prefer to stay clear of the C Labs products. I've had at least 3 of their tubs clump up on me and become unusable and it's just not worth the hassle.

Baby reps for good suggestions, and flavors!

if your looking for a jack3d knockoff heres a couple i have not tried any of these so cant recommend them personally

hemo rage ultra concentrate
flash over
1MR
presurge unleashed

[dizterbd]

If you want stim heavy go with hemo rage ultra concentrate, it's really heavy on stims and compares favorably to jack3d.

^this^ appears to be most favorable for you

[smck420]

Heres some general advice.

if you like the feeling from jack3d, get a hold of some 1,3-DMAA (primaforce makes caps for a good price, bulk powder can be found elsewhere for even cheaper).

then add 25-75mg of DMAA to a low range dose of a non DMAA pre-workout, and you've got all of what jack3d is missing, plus all that jack3d has, for nearly the same price (even cheaper some times because you don't need nearly as many scoops of the other stuff when you add DMAA).

i like it best with whiteflood and superpump250, which i both prefer on there own to jack3d.

[CalebRM]

White flood is far superior in my opinion. Chances are the only reason you like jacked is the 1 dimeth in it. Even if white flood does clump up it's still very usable

[thebigt2]

i can't believe no one ever talks about mesomorph by APS. it is the best pre workout available, imo. check out all the logs at AM, it gets very good reviews.

[SilentEcho13]

200mg caffeine
50-75mg 1,3 dimeth
creatine
piece of fruit

1hr pre-workout

you'll be good.

[mdetwile]

Wow guys, thanks for all the responses. I will try to rep you all in time.

[mdetwile]

Assault blue raspberry. Assault has lots of good reviews and the taste is great.

This product seems to have creatine bundled in it among other things. Is this closer to 5g and would this be enough to replace the maintenance scoop of creatine mono?

[mdetwile]

If you want stim heavy go with hemo rage ultra concentrate, it's really heavy on stims and compares favorably to jack3d. If you want something not loaded with 1,3 dimeth try litup, i am digging the sample bottle i got of it.

if your looking for a jack3d knockoff heres a couple i have not tried any of these so cant recommend them personally

hemo rage ultra concentrate
flash over
1MR
presurge unleashed

^this^ appears to be most favorable for you

Thanks for this advice, from what I can tell Hemo Rage Ultra Concentrate is very similar to Jack3d, but a little better value, might check this out.

[mdetwile]

Heres some general advice.

if you like the feeling from jack3d, get a hold of some 1,3-DMAA (primaforce makes caps for a good price, bulk powder can be found elsewhere for even cheaper).

then add 25-75mg of DMAA to a low range dose of a non DMAA pre-workout, and you've got all of what jack3d is missing, plus all that jack3d has, for nearly the same price (even cheaper some times because you don't need nearly as many scoops of the other stuff when you add DMAA).

i like it best with whiteflood and superpump250, which i both prefer on there own to jack3d.

200mg caffeine
50-75mg 1,3 dimeth
creatine
piece of fruit

1hr pre-workout

you'll be good.

Would anyone be able to provide links to bulk 1,3-dimethylamylamine, I can't locate this on bb.com

[TMac26]

The re-release of ErgoPump will be happening here very soon.


Creatine Nitrate, not overly stimmed, zero crash.


Reviews have been nothing but stellar.

[xStevenx]

If you like Jack3d take a look at ALLMAX Razor8 Blast Powder.

Very potent, and stronger than jacked. 400mg Caff/ (from 4 different sources, so it doesnt hit you all at once) and 42mg 1,3 D per scoop, plus some other stim.s

I recommend starting with 1/2 scoop or less to access tolerance. This one is for the stim junkies looking for balls to the wall energy

I use 1/2 scoop, plenty enough for me. at that dose the $35ish tub lasts me 80 workouts!

[pand2190]

White Flood
Presurge Unleashed
Assault

Can't go wrong with any of these.

[F3D]

This product seems to have creatine bundled in it among other things. Is this closer to 5g and would this be enough to replace the maintenance scoop of creatine mono?

Yes, on the days you take Assault it is not necessary to consume more creatine.

Save the mono for the off days

[Peter LeDrew]

FlashOver works brilliantly and adds some different ideas from Jack3d... L-Norvaline for NO, N-Acetyl Tyrosine to help avoid the stim crash, Glycine, etc... plus it's a non-prop. blend so you know exactly what you're getting which you deserve to know as a paying customer.

I think it easily ranks up there, gets amazing reviews and has been a leading seller on a couple other sites for quite a few months, ahead of Jack3d.

[zsr]

FlashOver works brilliantly and adds some different ideas from Jack3d... L-Norvaline for NO, N-Acetyl Tyrosine to help avoid the stim crash, Glycine, etc... plus it's a non-prop. blend so you know exactly what you're getting which you deserve to know as a paying customer.

I think it easily ranks up there, gets amazing reviews and has been a leading seller on a couple other sites for quite a few months, ahead of Jack3d.

This^. Can even be found for 14.95 if you LOCKOUT.

[SilentEcho13]

OP:

Search the BB store for a product called "Adrena G" by SNS.

[Free Weight Friedel]

Why don't you try one of the newest pre-workouts to hit the market: LITup!


REVIEWS:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...3&postcount=70

[miamibodybuilder]

have you tried AAEFX's KOTIC yet? i've been using it now for about 2 months and i love it. i take no more than 2 scoops and i'm good to go for my entire workout. it provides a steady stream of energy throughout my entire session WITHOUT a crash. if not, you can try AAEFX's KRE-ALKALYN PRO, i've mixed the two before and i gotta tell you, WOW WHAT A RUSH. i dont recommend this for anyone, this is what i take personally and works for ME. but definitely give either one of those a try or do your research on the at http://www.aaefx.com/dev/

[Hola Bola]

Shock Therapy... I've been using it for years.

[The Solution]

Check out Scivation's Quake 10.0... A formula like jacked with the added 1,3. If you do not crash off of Jacked and are looking for something with more of a longer focus effect, great pumps, and a strong energy kick you are in store for a good product. 40 servings can be as cheap as around 20$ maybe a little less if you find a good deal (hint hint) and check out the review thread which holds 110+ reviews and over 20 logs of people who have tried the product and rated it to other pre-workouts on the market. This will help in your decision.

We also offer samples in the bb.com store to add to your next order of whichever pre-workout you choose to buy.. Give it a look.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=123158133

[wayprotein]

^^lol at all reps.

Thanks for this advice, from what I can tell Hemo Rage Ultra Concentrate is very similar to Jack3d, but a little better value, might check this out.

from most of the review i have read most people like jack3d better than hemo rage. the only one i seen people liked better was flashover looks pretty good if not that why not just stick to jack3d since you like it already.

[NDiMa7]

Yes, on the days you take Assault it is not necessary to consume more creatine.

Save the mono for the off days

This

[dpressma]

My favorite energy preworkouts have got to be Cellucor's new C4, VPX Shotgun, Neogenix Cryoshock, and Musclemeds Code Red. Give any of those a shot and I think you'll be pretty pleased.

[Deano87]

Omega Sports Flashover