Which one do I use.....

**scooter82** · 02-24-2006, 08:00 AM

I am new here and trust I am not tryin to be the village idiot….
I work out in the back yard and hear so much about all
These protein supplements.I want to try them but have no clue
What I need….Help please

Scotty

**marcmathews** · 02-24-2006, 08:04 AM

THe basics are Whey Protein, multi vitamins and Fish oil.

**zhorner** · 02-24-2006, 08:27 AM

^^^^^ YEP

to be more specific (all opinionated of coarse)

multi - NOW adam
fish oil - NOW, or even gnc will do
whey - Optimum nut. gold standard is my personal fav.

**scooter82** · 02-24-2006, 08:30 AM

Thanks for the reply, I have a GNC close by and was on there web site.Very confusing on what to choose.So I am just lookin for Whey Protein...I have seen some very good gaines in the last 6 to 8 weeks and I do eat eat around 4 or more hard boiled eggs after my work outs.I just feel I can gain more with some added protien...is this the correct approch.
I am over 40... 6'6 and weigh 230....how many grams are we talking here to be benificial.

Scotty

**zhorner** · 02-24-2006, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by scooter82

Thanks for the reply, I have a GNC close by and was on there web site.Very confusing on what to choose.So I am just lookin for Whey Protein...I have seen some very good gaines in the last 6 to 8 weeks and I do eat eat around 4 or more hard boiled eggs after my work outs.I just feel I can gain more with some added protien...is this the correct approch.
I am over 40... 6'6 and weigh 230....how many grams are we talking here to be benificial.

Scotty

i would ditch the hard boiled eggs post workout...all that fat does nothing but slow down the digestion process...you want something that will get broken down fast and rapidly absorbed...whey and high GI carb

**scooter82** · 02-24-2006, 11:40 AM

Any advise on how much to take per work out.And would it be better before or after.
I would like to say this is a very cool forum.The last site I was on I would wait 4 days before you would get a reply.

**firstar124** · 02-24-2006, 01:00 PM

For your pre-work out you can something like oatmeal. But,for You need fast absobred protein after your workout. Most people go with whey protein powder. I personally think 40-50 grams of protein for post workout is sufficenet.
A lot people like 100% whey protein, because it is good and cheap.
I hope this help

**slopitch** · 02-24-2006, 02:24 PM

You need to find out what works for you, What works for me @ 30 6' and 250
is protien before and protien after with a creatine adder. I also work out at 5:00 am in the morning and oatmeal does not go down that well that early for me. Some protiens like the Optimum give you alot of essential and non essential Amino's as well as some other added vitamins and minerals. I just started using Optimum Nutritions 100% gold and it tastes great not to say that there are not others the Twin Labs stuff is good as well. Buy it try it and see if you like it if you dont finish it off and try something new. Not every one reacts to the same supplement in the same way so you will really need to stick to what makes sense to you. This is a good place for information so it is a good thing you found this place early. Good luck and good gains.

**Fuerza_M** · 02-24-2006, 02:37 PM

optimum 100% is good and you can take before and after your workouts

**NCTarheels321** · 02-24-2006, 02:40 PM

IMO ON 100% whey is the best protein out there.

**Da Main Man** · 02-24-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Da Main Man

General Health & Nutrition

BMI Calculator
GI Rating on popular foods
Daily Protein Calculator
Pre, During & post workout Nutrition
Fitday - Workout your diet to the Calorie - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

Beginner Supps
basically for those who have built fairly solid base with thier diet, training, hydration and recovery

Whey Protein WPC or WPI?? - learn here

Optimum 100% Whey (WPC/WPI Blend) Buy it here
Dymatize Elite Whey (WPC/WPI Blend) Buy it here
Ergopharm GF Pro (WPI) Buy it here
Syntrax Nectar (WPI) Buy it here

Vitamins & Minerals - Comparison Chart

Now ADAM Buy it here
Optimum nutrition Opti-Men Buy it here

Essential Fatty Acids Fish Oil Info Flax Info

Olympian Labs Omega 3 Fish oil Buy it here
Optimum Nutrition Flax Seed oil Buy it here

Basic Creatine Supplements What is creatine?

Creatine Mono (creapure) Buy it here
Plain Creatine Ethyl Ester (i recommend Primaforce - C of A) Buy it here

This is all you need as a beginner, dont get ahead of yourself, diet is KEY!

Advanced supps
not recommended until diet is 100%, training routine is rock solid. Hydration is the KEY
for most of these supps, get at least a gallon of "water" a day

as mentioned above, the same apllies to whey, EFA's and Multivitamins & Minerals.

here a few extra's for that added OOMPH!

Advanced Creatine Learn more

POWDERS
MAN Clout Buy it here
MAN Oritine Buy it here
Bulk Creatine Ethyl Ester
Bulk Magnesium Creatine Chelate

CAPS
Controlled Labs Green Bulge Buy it here
Omega Cre-Ethyl Thunder Buy it here
SNS Creatine E2/Creatine E2 Matrix (C of A) Buy it here
Ergopharm Cell Fuel Buy it here

NO Supps Learn more

Controlled Labs White Blood Buy it here
SNS Arginine E2 Buy it here

NO/Creatine Cocktails

NON-STIM
Universal Storm Buy it here
SNS CVM Extreme Buy it here
Dymatize Expand buy it here
Designer Supps Xceed - FAQ Buy it here

STIM VERSION
Universal Shock Therapy Buy it here
Dymatize Expand - Energized Version Buy it here

Energy/Endurance

Get Diesel Ready4War - RAW Energy Buy it here
Scifit Caffeine (200mg and very cheap)
Man Body Octane Buy it here
Bulk Citrulline Malate

Cell Volumizing Learn More

Controlled Labs Glycergrow - FAQ Buy it here
Now Foods Glycerine Buy it here
Bulk Taurine
Bulk GMS

Focus

SNS Focus XT Buy it here
Scivation Nuero-Stim Buy it here

Recovery BCAA Comparison Chart EAA Info

Scivation Xtend (BCAA+G) - FAQ Buy it here
Xtreme Formulations ICE (BCAA+G) Buy it here
Ergopharm All-In-ON (EAA) - there is a carb and carb-free version Buy it here
BSL Nitro-Jet (EAA) Buy it here

Fat Loss/Damage Control Fatloss Basics

STIM/THERMO/APPITITE SUPPRESSION BASED Caffeine Info
CL Red Acid - FAQ Buy it here
Man Scorch Buy it here
AX Stim-X - FAQ Buy it here
Ergopharm AMP Buy it here
Scifit Caffeine (200mg and very cheap) Buy it here
Primaforce Lean Green Buy it here

NON-STIM
Get Diesel, Diesel Fuel Buy it here
Designer Supps Glucophase XR Buy it here Learn about Insulin

CORTISOL CONTROL Learn more
Desiger Supps Lean Xtreme Buy it here
San Blaze Buy it here

DAMAGE CONTROL & FAT LOSS
Designer Supps Melting Point - FAQ Buy it here
Scivation Sesamin Buy it here

Joint Support Learn about Glucosamine

San Bone Boost Buy it here

Meal-Replacement Powders

SAN Infusion Buy it here
Prolab Lean mass matrix - discontinued???
Ergopharm Mass Meal Buy it here

Night-time Protein

Xtreme Formulations Ultra-Peptide. Buy it here
Milk Protein Isolate (80% casein + 20% Whey)

Additional resources

Ironpimpers - Essential supplements
Bill Starr's 5x5 Linear Progression Routine
Bill Starr/Glenn Pedley 5x5 Periodization Routine
HST Training
pu12en12g's Supps/companies to avoid
dwm230000's Analysis and breakdown of supplements
BIGNBUFF's Bodybuilding Bible

Still Under Construction

Thanks to pu12en12g & nni for a lot of the info listed.

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**scooter82** · 02-24-2006, 02:57 PM

Thanks guys.
Any good place to find this Optimum 100%...

**Da Main Man** · 02-24-2006, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by NCTarheels321

IMO ON 100% whey is the best protein out there.

not many will agree with you.

however it is a good protein blend for the price.

**scooter82** · 02-24-2006, 03:00 PM

Da Main Man...

That is some cool stuff ...thanks

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