Friend just said he's cutting out wheat and dairy from his diet... Da fuq

[EaglesBrah10]

I have Guttate Psoriasis if you guys know what that is. First breakout was 3 years ago and it went away in about 2 months regardless of diet changes and treatments.

Just started to have another breakout even though I've been eating well and exercising/lifting hard. Did some more reading and apparently many people have a SENSITIVITY to dairy (casein + whey) and gluten (which I assume your friend should be avoiding, not "wheat". The sensitivity causes an autoimmune trip (to simplify) and your immune system goes crazy. (which is what causes psoriasis flares if you have it)

Had a Chobani this morning for them gainz, BRB lesions red as fuk not 10 minutes after.

Doing a no-dairy diet for a week or two to see if I see any improvements. Actually harder than it seems since casein and such is injected into deli meats, sauces, frozen foods, bread, proton powder, etc. (And even a tiny bit would ruin the no dairy "cleanse")

If I don't see improvements, I'm cutting out gluten next (which is basically any carbs not named vegetables. Basically can only eat meat, veggies, fruits, and specifically no-gluten products from the market.

BRB lesions everywhere
BRB can't eat away my sorrows
BRB de-load week since I haven't taken 1 in 8 months.
BRB depression

SRS.


EDIT: a few psoriasis brahs in here? tips would be greatly appreciated !

[JKCZ]

EDIT: a few psoriasis brahs in here? tips would be greatly appreciated !

I had it once when I was a kid so this might not help much but.. My doctor at the time just prescribed me a couple of creams and told me to keep doing/eating whatever. I used to drink (still do) about 1L milk per day, and used to eat quite a lot of bread as well. It took one month for it to go away at the time and (fortunately) it never came back. Good luck.

[Jay89LDN]

His response when I asked why:

"our bodies aren't naturally designed to be able to digest dairy and wheat correctly. stuff like milk is designed for baby calves. of course, it's nothing that kills us by eating it. but I've already been "detoxing" my body the past 4 months with eliminating stuff like processed foods, sugar, high fructose corn syrup, fast foods, and hydrogenated oils and etc. fake food, basically. so, since I'm in the home stretch of my program, figured might as well crank it to 11 and hardcore detox my body with eliminating all of those other things. with the crap I've put in my body ever since getting out of high school, the difference now in how I feel is staggering. now, might as well maximize it."

I'm not sure where he's getting his info from, but I'm pretty sure dairy and wheat products aren't bad for you... At least as far as whole grain wheat goes.

Nothing wrong with that

[RubyInsectoid]

Most annoying thing in this thread is milk drinkers linking sites sponsored or run by the dairy companies as proof of it being fantastic.

dat critical thinking

Personally thinking of taking up milk again for my next bulk but can't find any neutral study or source that says its healthy.
Reason I quit milk was because of estrogen/"antibiotics" scare which I still don't know is true or not, but quitting milk cleared out my face from acne.

[elperfecto]

Most annoying thing in this thread is milk drinkers linking sites sponsored or run by the dairy companies as proof of it being fantastic.

dat critical thinking

Personally thinking of taking up milk again for my next bulk but can't find any neutral study or source that says its healthy.
Reason I quit milk was because of estrogen/"antibiotics" scare which I still don't know is true or not, but quitting milk cleared out my face from acne.

Well I never quit drinking milk and I turned out alright. Don't be scared of some protein and calcium bro.

[GermanLifter]

His response when I asked why:

"our bodies aren't naturally designed to be able to digest dairy and wheat correctly. stuff like milk is designed for baby calves. of course, it's nothing that kills us by eating it. but I've already been "detoxing" my body the past 4 months with eliminating stuff like processed foods, sugar, high fructose corn syrup, fast foods, and hydrogenated oils and etc. fake food, basically. so, since I'm in the home stretch of my program, figured might as well crank it to 11 and hardcore detox my body with eliminating all of those other things. with the crap I've put in my body ever since getting out of high school, the difference now in how I feel is staggering. now, might as well maximize it."

I'm not sure where he's getting his info from, but I'm pretty sure dairy and wheat products aren't bad for you... At least as far as whole grain wheat goes.

gallon of milk a day crew checking in and feel great

[doingwork30]

gallon of milk a day for like 7 months checking in

poverty college student=cheapest protein/calories I can get to fill my macros. Usually hit 250g pro (of 4100 kcal). Weirdly enough, body comp is changing the same way as when my macros were hit with a **** ton of meat over the summer.

[gingersgym]

Iv cut out gluten and feel better, less ****s and up-set stomach...

always thought about cutting out milk but from what i can tell it gives me no problems...

also LOVE greek yogurt on my yogurt.. I dont care if it makes me fatter or what ever so goooodd

[Widgeteye]

we need alan in here lol

Here is a link to a comparison of CHOCOLATE MILK and BioTest Surge Recovery by Alan Aragon, where he tells of the values of chocolate milk over said high priced Pwo.

Read it and weep.

Won't let me post link but it's on Aragons web site. Or just search Alan aragon on chocolate milk.

[FL_Z32]

Majority of the world is lactose intolerant, our bodies werent originally meant to take in milk but evolved to be able to do so.

Mostly true. As infants, we should be drinking off of our momma's titties. After that, you are right about our bodies not designed to take in milk.

[PointBreak85]

Here is a link to a comparison of CHOCOLATE MILK and BioTest Surge Recovery by Alan Aragon, where he tells of the values of chocolate milk over said high priced Pwo.

Read it and weep.

????

[rugby92]

The tallest people in the world also consume the most dairy... coincidence?

Dutch people.

Don't cut dairy.

[qurs]

I drink my gf's breastmilk. Free and healthy. Srs.

[PointBreak85]

The tallest people in the world also consume the most dairy... coincidence?

Dutch people.

Don't cut dairy.

sourcfe lol?

[eLjay28]

Funny how the people who havent tried are stating it wont make a difference and its not worth it unless you have a bad reaction to it.

But the ones who have tried to do it, even when they had no problems with it state that they have noticed a beneficial difference. Including myself, and i used to drink almost a gallon of day, also a ****ton of grains.

[Widgeteye]

sourcfe lol?

I looked it up and he's partially right the Dutch are the tallest at average 6 ft but only third in milk consumption. Lol

So like he said don't cut milk. :-)

[JetLife]

I've recently trued cutting all bread/grain/rice/wheat etc... products out of my diet and only eating them on certain occasions such as parties, bbq's, celebrations, out with friends etc.. I'm trying to focus getting my carbs from veggies, mainly sweet and white potatoes and it has worked so far. I'm not so much doing it for the scientific aspect of it just more so of a personal experiment. I've been doing this for almost a month and half now and I feel completely fine.

I'm also curious about cutting dairy out my diet also, again only eating it on certain occasions. I'm already lactose intolerant, mainly to milk but I can eat cheese and yogurt with no problem. I've been eating low fat greek yogurt 2x a day everyday for almost 2 months now and it will be interesting to see how no dairy at all will affect my body.

[solidus2k3]

Intredasting

[Lastman13]

I barely drank milk as a kid. Almost none. When I started lifting last year, I started drinking a lot more milk, and I felt no difference.

When I got mono last month, my tonsils swelled up so bad that I couldn't eat solid food. I was drinking a gallon of milk a day for more than a month because that was all I could eat. And I did fine, my intestines didn't shrivel up and die or some chit.


I've heard many people say how bad it is for you and I respect those opinions, but its hard to believe based upon personal experience. Are there any kind of scientific studies behind this?

[MetalManuel]

Calories are calories. Eventually all food will be bioengineered, so who gives a fuk. Unless your bodies can't handle the foods, it doesn't really matter.

[Frstsg]

The ability to drink milk after weaning is actually one of humanities most recent evolutions. Lactose is broken down by lactase, an enzyme that in most mammals stops being produced by adulthood. Lactase not being produced = lactose intolerance, it is the norm in every species except for humans.

Humans who had the ability to digest lactose for longer had a distinct survival advantage over those who could not, as once we began producing it, it was easy to obtain and readily available compared to other foods.

To deny that humans were 'meant' to drink milk, is to deny our evolutionary heritage.

Edit: This is mainly true of those descended from European's

[Astyanax]

lol @ you sorry *******s who can't digest milk or gluten.