new ergopharm 1 ad????

[goodinsidevoice]

I personally haven't heard anything like that.


PA is always two steps ahead though. I would suggest enjoying the great stuff he's putting out now. That's what I'm doing.





-Spaz

thanks for clearing up the air bro. I wasnt sure if I should go for the september 1-ad stack or hold of till the latest and greatest was released.

[JmoFinD]

Of 1-AD? Yes. I need to get my stack in order though. Right now I only have one bottle of 1-AD and until I get two, and some 11-OXO I'm going to hold off.

ETA on when you think you'll have all of the needed products?? I'd def be interested in following your log

I have plenty of 6-OXO though. So that's not the problem. It basically comes down to money right now, and the wife wanting to take 4 vacations this year isn't helping




-Spaz

Women are seriously never happy, next year it'll be 5 vacations.

My girl is constantly looking to go on vacation or wants me to take here somewhere, I feel like I work to pleaz teh wominz

[Big_Spaz]

ETA on when you think you'll have all of the needed products?? I'd def be interested in following your log



Women are seriously never happy, next year it'll be 5 vacations.

My girl is constantly looking to go on vacation or wants me to take here somewhere, I feel like I work to pleaz teh wominz

I got nailed for 3 weeks already this year.

Cruise to the Bahamas in January.

Myrtle Beach for a week in June.

Ocean City, MD & Rehobeth Beach for a week in July.


The Spazman's broke


As for an estimated time for my cycle to start... I would say in the next 3-4 weeks for sure.




-Spaz

[Beejis60]

As for an estimated time for my cycle to start... I would say in the next 3-4 weeks for sure.

SEXY!!!

[Work]

Did the original 1AD and never any burning...that sucks.

Lethargy and libido...4AD would take care of that but it is not legal anymore.

PA: I've heard some people say DHEA (200mg or so) helped the lethargy and libido because it provided the body some estrogen that was lacking from the 1AD. Any thoughts or experience with this?

My recollection is very clear on this. It's probably because the first release of 1AD was the dione version. The major complaint was burning urination. Very shortly afterwards the diol version came out which resolved that. So if you didn't run 1AD right after it came out, you probably would have missed fire dick. I'm pretty sure Pat would agree.
This actually is an encouraging sign of the conversion of the "NEW 1-AD" to 1AD. I have been very happy with the product. Strength and size are off the charts for me.

[Chia_Pet]

Soooo, any thoughts on running 3ad and 1ad in one cycle?

other then being expensive as hell, assume you have both, would a 4 week run of each following each other be ok?

I like asking hypotheticals, sorry =)

[fitnfirm]

Soooo, any thoughts on running 3ad and 1ad in one cycle?

other then being expensive as hell, assume you have both, would a 4 week run of each following each other be ok?

I like asking hypotheticals, sorry =)

3-AD is awesome all by itself

[goodinsidevoice]

SEXY!!!

ooooo I like sexy! it gives me a chance to have my sexy parties


on a serious note...looking forward to the log.

[Work]

Soooo, any thoughts on running 3ad and 1ad in one cycle?

other then being expensive as hell, assume you have both, would a 4 week run of each following each other be ok?

I like asking hypotheticals, sorry =)

3ad and 1ad is killer, that's what I've been doing.

[JP83]

JP it sounds like your having a pretty good cycle so far (besides the libido issue).

For me I think the key is the 11-OXO to 6-OXO (Extreme) bridge. That should get you right back into the groove of things. I'm going to run the bridge, and even add in ActivaTe Xtreme with my 6-OXO Extreme.






-Spaz

thanks and yes i plan on starting 11oxo on monday!

[Jacob253]

Cautious route would be to taper down to three.

Thanks

[GoalsmotivateU]

beyond just the expected HPTA suppression and androgenic sides, a small percentage of people experience an allergic rash. some report lethargy and transient libido loss. gastric disturbance if not taken with food can occur. irritation during urination too

Patrick, how high is the anabolic/androgenic ratio, if you don't mind? I think i read a thread where you mentioned it as Ive been researching the last few hours on 1-ad. I'm on this thread now so might as well ask....and keep updated on this , since I am interested.

anabolic is muscle building right? Androgenic is side effects like deep voice, hair shedding,? pretty sure I'm right just making sure

I'm specifically interested if you can give of a percentage of how much hair shedding or hair loss (would/could) occurs on 1- ad? from what I studied you said its not hard on the body so I'm

assuming that androgenic is minimal?

I'm interested in 1-ad.

Oh and 4-ad is not legal ?

maybe it's going to be banned or already has in some tested bodybuilding shows but it is still advertised on websites?

so if I do a natural tested show in 2010 this is okay now I understand this...unless the organization changes the rules which I abide by.

now how about 4-ad stacked with this....does this convert to anything banned by most natural tested shows. Except the reviews so far are saying lethargy and libido issues which 4-ad combats, that is why 4-ad has my interest with 1-ad.

[ja7fe]

Wow ok. I'm going to be THAT guy right now, don't hate. Many questions. 1-ad is coming back? More or less potent? Legal in US? WTF is 3-ad

For those of us who only know how to work the google search..




CAN WE PLEASE START THIS FORUM OVER.




I've taken 1-ad in the past and it is tight, has anyone taken this past the expiration date (like I'm about to do) and still seen mad results. Or should I wait for some new stuff thats apparently coming out? Bout to buy 4 bottles with exp. 04/07 and pop 6 a day (I weigh 150)- Lost 30 pounds from smoking.



help

[ja7fe]

Just in case I didn't make that question clear.

I just want to know if anyone is taking 1ad now (the original ergopharm) past the expiration date and still seeing the same results.
jake

[Hypertrophik]

...

Patrick, how high is the anabolic/androgenic ratio, if you don't mind? I think i read a thread where you mentioned it as Ive been researching the last few hours on 1-ad. I'm on this thread now so might as well ask....and keep updated on this , since I am interested.

anabolic is muscle building right? Androgenic is side effects like deep voice, hair shedding,? pretty sure I'm right just making sure


1-ad's target cpd which is 1-test has an AA ratio of 2:1.

Yes, anabolic is enhancing protein synthesis / nitrogen retention thus promoting muscle growth.

Androgenic referes to the masculinization properties for example what u mentioned.



I'm specifically interested if you can give of a percentage of how much hair shedding or hair loss (would/could) occurs on 1- ad? from what I studied you said its not hard on the body so I'm

assuming that androgenic is minimal?

Its all relative, each individual responds differently.

I'm interested in 1-ad.

Oh and 4-ad is not legal ?

4-androstenediol (4-ad) has been banned

maybe it's going to be banned or already has in some tested bodybuilding shows but it is still advertised on websites?

so if I do a natural tested show in 2010 this is okay now I understand this...unless the organization changes the rules which I abide by.


IMO If you want to be natural dont use hormonal products. Anyway check with the organization for info regarding that matter.


now how about 4-ad stacked with this....does this convert to anything banned by most natural tested shows. Except the reviews so far are saying lethargy and libido issues which 4-ad combats, that is why 4-ad has my interest with 1-ad.


4-ad converts to Testosterone. T levels higher than testing standards would cause u to fail ur drug tests. Also yes, it helps alot with the libido issues on cycle.

[Hypertrophik]

Wow ok. I'm going to be THAT guy right now, don't hate. Many questions. 1-ad is coming back? More or less potent? Legal in US? WTF is 3-ad

For those of us who only know how to work the google search..




CAN WE PLEASE START THIS FORUM OVER.




I've taken 1-ad in the past and it is tight, has anyone taken this past the expiration date (like I'm about to do) and still seen mad results. Or should I wait for some new stuff thats apparently coming out? Bout to buy 4 bottles with exp. 04/07 and pop 6 a day (I weigh 150)- Lost 30 pounds from smoking.



help

Ur stats show that ur 19. 1-ad is not for you.

[ja7fe]

*sigh* Can anyone actually say something useful

I don't want a lecture. 1ad is not for you either because its ILLEGAL

[Elliptical Envy]

Ur stats show that ur 19. 1-ad is not for you.

*sigh* Can anyone actually say something useful

I don't want a lecture. 1ad is not for you either because its ILLEGAL

I think that was pretty damn useful.

[ja7fe]

Im sorry, I didn't mean to come off as an ass. Just have a few questions about it and would appreciate it if someone could help me out. I aint a bodybuilder or anything but 1ad is the only thing that's worked for me in the past and I don't want to do roids.
jake

[psych]

Im sorry, I didn't mean to come off as an ass. Just have a few questions about it and would appreciate it if someone could help me out. I aint a bodybuilder or anything but 1ad is the only thing that's worked for me in the past and I don't want to do roids.
jake

what do you think 1ad is?

[JayLS1-327]

*sigh* Can anyone actually say something useful

I don't want a lecture. 1ad is not for you either because its ILLEGAL

The new 1-ad isn't illegal.

[Beejis60]

1ad is not for you either because its ILLEGAL

The old version is illegal.

what do you think 1ad is?

x2?

[ja7fe]

Is Anyone Here Taking The Original 1-ad Past The Expiration Date (or Has Done It Before??)

I Have A Couple Bottles Left Over And I Don't Know If Theyd Still Be Good Since They Expired In 04/07

Any Help Would Be Highly Appreciated.

Thanks

[Beejis60]

Is Anyone Here Taking The Original 1-ad Past The Expiration Date (or Has Done It Before??)

I Have A Couple Bottles Left Over And I Don't Know If Theyd Still Be Good Since They Expired In 04/07

Any Help Would Be Highly Appreciated.

Thanks

I'll gladly dispose of them properly for you, just send them to me and that's it.

[GoalsmotivateU]

how many logs of ergopharm 1-ad are being logged?

more specifically who is doing a 1-ad log with there **** together?

Training intensely, eating calories-high protein, and was ready for them.

I saw a ams log that was going well but it was abandoned.

[ja7fe]

are you talking about the original 1 ad?.. i'm still lost in this forum. If your talking about the original then I can do a log in about a week.
I'm not quite sure if I "have my **** together" but I'll try.

I'm planning on a 3 on 1 off workout (chest + back, bi's and tri's, lower body, rest) taking 6 capsules a day from the start (3 bottles) while eating 2 big meals and 4 little meals (a lot of meat, pasta, and peanutbutter) and taking nLarge 2 weight gainer.

I'm no bodybuilder and I'm not big at all anymore but I think I have the right idea, correct me if I'm wrong. When I'm off the cycle I'm thinking of using some aromx to get my natural hormone levels back up.. I've heard 6-oxo is better but can't afford that AND 1ad.
J

[psych]

lol @ people still going for the ams stuff

[ja7fe]

LOL I bet psych is the biggest douche bag in person.. constantly chiming in with his useless one-liners adding no substance to the forum.

Some people got questions, some people got answers, you got neither- just little ***got remarks all the time

[Trenbolone]

LOL I bet psych is the biggest douche bag in person.. constantly chiming in with his useless one-liners adding no substance to the forum.

Some people got questions, some people got answers, you got neither- just little ***got remarks all the time

Yea, if you're going to say something, make sure its deep.

[psych]

Yea, if you're going to say something, make sure its deep.

honestly dude
the ams "1-ad" has been debated for a long time if you want the real stuff you look to ergopharm

those people still saying the ams stuff is legit dont know crap about the incidents with it
it doesnt take a genius to figure out what i am referring to