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    MT, agreed, and it looked like a six-pack. 1 or 6 too many, lol.

    All over social media and the networks going ape-shiit.

    What matters is the AB chose a trans to be one of its spokepersons. Massive and shocking lapse in judgement.

    Expect shareholder lawsuits.

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    Ex-trans teens voice support for state bill to ban sex change surgeries for minors: 'Severe and irreversible'

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    Mulvaney was one among dozens of social media personalities who were sent stuff to do on Instagram and TikTok clips, something they've been doing for a while now. Mulvany made one clip posted on her Tik-Tok. It was just another social media plug by a so-called "influencer” that nobody but her followers would have seen but for the certain types of media frothing at the mouth about trans folks right now.

    Either way InBev doesn’t give a sh*t about the LGBT community or they wouldn’t have been one of the biggest sponsors of the World Cup in Qatar. Companies like InBev and Disney are promoting inclusivity because their data tells them to.




    Also here is the complete list of InBev brands. Are we boycotting all of them?

    Global
    Budweiser
    Bud Dry
    Bud Extra
    Bud Lime
    Budweiser Black Crown
    Bud Light
    Bud Light Chelada
    Bud Light Lime
    Busch
    Busch Light
    Corona
    Corona Extra
    Corona Latte
    Estrella
    Modelo Especial
    Modelo Light
    Negra Modelo
    Pacífico
    Victoria
    Natural Light
    Natural
    Natural Ice
    Natty Daddy
    Shock Top Belgian White
    Peeterman Artois
    Stella Artois
    Artois Bock
    Ziegenbock
    Europe
    Edit
    Beck's (Germany)
    Beck's Dark
    Beck's Alkoholfrei
    Beck's Oktoberfest
    Beck's Premier Light
    Brouwerij Bosteels (Belgium)
    Pauwel Kwak
    Tripel Karmeliet
    Breda (The Channel Islands) Still Available
    Camden Town Brewery (UK)
    Diekirch (Luxembourg)
    Diekirch Grand Cru
    Diekirch Grande Réserve
    Diekirch Exclusive
    Dimix (Germany)
    Dommelsch (Netherlands)
    Dommelsch Pilsener
    Dommelsch Ice
    Dommelsch Dominator
    Ginette (Belgium)
    Gilde Ratskeller (Germany)
    Haake-Beck (Germany)
    Hasseröder (Germany)
    Hertog Jan (Netherlands)
    Primator
    Oud Bruin
    Grand Prestige
    Tripel
    Dubbel
    Winterbier
    Bockbier
    Meibock
    Hoegaarden (Belgium)
    Hougaerdse Das
    Hop Hound Amber Wheat
    Julius (Belgium)
    Jupiler (Belgium)
    Jupiler N.A.
    Jupiler Blue
    Jupiler Tauro
    Klinskoye (Russia)
    Klinskoye Svetloye
    Klinskoye Zolotoye
    Klinskoye Luxik
    Klinskoye Redkoye
    Klinskoye Arriva
    Klinskoye Samurai
    La Bécasse (France)
    La Bécasse Kriek
    La Bécasse Raspberry
    La Bécasse Gueuze
    Leffe (Belgium)
    Leffe Brown
    Leffe Blonde
    Leffe Ruby
    Leffe Printemps
    Löwenbräu (Germany)
    Löwenbräu Alkoholfrei
    Löwenbräu Dunkel
    Löwenbräu Löwen Weisse
    Löwenbräu Original
    Löwenbräu Oktoberfestbier
    Löwenbräu Premium Pils
    Löwenbräu Radler
    Löwenbräu Schwarze Weisse
    Löwenbräu Triumphator
    Löwenbräu Urtyp
    Mousel (Luxembourg)
    Noroc (Romania)
    Permskoye Gubernskoye (Russia)
    Permskoye Gubernskoye Svetloye
    Piedboeuf (Belgium)
    Piedboeuf Blond
    Piedboeuf Brown
    Piedboeuf Triple
    Red Bridge (Luxembourg)
    Rifey (Russia)
    Rohan (Ukraine)
    Rohan Lehke
    Rohan Tradytsiyne
    Rohan Monastyrske Temne
    Rohan Veselyi Monach
    Rohan Bezalkoholne
    Safir (Belgium)
    Sibirskaya Korona (Siberian Crown)(Russia)
    Spaten (Germany)
    Spaten Alkoholfrei
    Spaten Diät-Pils
    Spaten Münchner Hell
    Spaten Oktoberfestbier
    Spaten Optimator
    Spaten Pils
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    St. Pauli Girl Special Dark
    St. Pauli Girl Non-Alcoholic
    Taller (Ukraine)
    Tinkov Russian Lager (Russia)
    Tolstiak (Russia)
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    Tolstiak Svetloye
    Tolstiak Zaboristoye
    Tolstiak Krepkoye
    Tolstiak Grechisnoye
    Victoria, strong blond Belgian beer (Belgium)[5]
    Vieux Temps (Belgium)
    Wild Series
    Wild Blue
    Wild Black
    Wild Red
    Whitbread (United Kingdom) (purchased from Whitbread Group plc in 2001)
    Yantar (Ukraine)
    Asia / Pacific
    Edit
    Baisha (China)
    Beck's Ice (India)
    Boxing Cat (China)
    Cafri (South Korea)
    Cascade Brewery (Australia)
    Cass (South Korea)
    Cass Fresh
    Cass Light
    Cass Red
    Cass Lemon
    Cass Beats
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    E-Generation
    Premium Light
    Dry Beer
    GuoGuang (China)
    Haywards 5000 (India)
    Jinlin (China)
    Jinlongquan (China)
    Draft
    Refreshing
    Kaiba (China)
    KK (China)
    Nanchang (China)
    OB (South Korea)
    Red Shiliang (China)
    Santai (China)
    Sedrin (China)
    Southern Bay brew hole
    The Hand & Malt (South Korea)
    Yali (China)
    Zizhulin (China)
    Zhujiang (China)
    Americas
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    10 Barrel Brewing Co (USA)
    911 (Dominican Republic)
    Alexander Keith's (Canada)
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    Keith's White
    Keith's Dark
    Keith's Red
    Keith's Light
    Keith's Regular
    Keith's Hop Series
    Andes (Argentina)
    Antarctica (Brazil)
    Aqua Fratelli Vita (Brazil)
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    Baviera (Paraguay)
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    Best Damn Root Beer
    Best Damn Apple Ale
    Blue Point Brewing Company (USA)
    Blue Star (Canada)
    Bogotá Beer Company (Colombia)
    Bohemia (Brazil)
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    Bohemia Escura
    Bohemia Weiss
    Bohemia Royal Ale
    Bohemia Confraria
    Bohemia Oaken
    Bohemia (Dominican Republic)
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    Brahma
    Brahva Gold (Guatemala)
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    Breckenridge Brewery (USA)
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    Budweiser Chelada
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    Bud Ice Light
    Bud Lime
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    Budweiser Black Crown
    Budweiser Freedom Reserve
    Budweiser Magnum
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    Budweiser Select 55
    Bud Light
    Bud Light Chelada
    Bud Light Golden Wheat
    Bud Light Lime
    Bud Light Orange
    Bud Light Platinum
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    Ducal
    Huari
    Maltín
    Paceña
    Paceña Centenario
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    Malta Vigor
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    Cervecerias Chile (Chile)
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    Báltica (Chile)
    Becker (Chile)
    Cusqueña (Peru)
    Devils Backbone Brewing Company (USA)
    Elysian Brewing Company (USA)
    Four Peaks (USA)[6]
    Golden Road (USA)
    Goose Island Brewery (USA)
    Grupo Modelo (Mexico) Acquired in 2013
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    Corona Ligera
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    Negra Modelo
    Pacifico Clara
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    Pacifico Suave
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    Vicky Chelada
    Victoria
    Victoria Ligera
    Índica (Uruguay)
    Karbach Brewing Company (USA)
    Kokanee (Canada)
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    Kokanee Light
    Kokanee Frost
    Kootenay True Ale
    Labatt Family (Canada) Acquired in 1995
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    Labatt Blue Dry
    Labatt Blue Light
    Labatt Club
    Labatt .5
    Labatt Lite
    Labatt Lucky Lager
    Labatt 50
    John Labatt Classic
    Labatt Genuine
    Labatt Extra Dry Lager
    Labatt Wildcat
    Labatt Ice
    Jockey Club
    Blue Star
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    Lakeport Ale
    Lakeport Light
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    Steeler
    Brava
    Wee Willy
    Liber (Brazil)
    Marathon (Brazil)
    Michelob
    Michelob Light
    Michelob Honey Lager
    Michelob Honey Wheat
    Michelob Pale Ale
    Michelob Ultra
    Mill Street Brewery (Canada)
    Malta Morena (Dominican Republic)
    Norteña (Uruguay)
    Oceánica (Uruguay)
    Oland Export Ale (Canada)
    Original (Brazil)
    Patagonia (Argentina)
    Patricia (Uruguay)
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    Pilsen Ñande (Paraguay)
    Pilsen Ñande Roja
    Pilsen Ñande Blanca
    Pilsen Ñande Negra
    Pilsener (Ecuador)
    Pilsener Light (Ecuador)[7]
    Presidente Light (Dominican Republic)
    Presidente Black (Dominican Republic)
    Quilmes (Argentina)
    Rolling Rock
    Rolling Rock Light
    Rolling Rock Red
    Ron Barceló (Dominican Republic)
    Schooner Lager (Canada)
    Serramalte (Brazil)
    Spiked Seltzer (USA)
    Sukita (Brazil)
    Turning Point (Canada)
    Stanley Park
    Hell's Gate
    Veza Sur Brewing Company [8] (USA)
    Wicked Weed (USA) [9]
    Veza Sur Mangolandia on a golf course
    Veza Sur Mangolandia on a golf course
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    Carling Black Label
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    Castle Milk Stout
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    Liberado
    Newlands Spring
    Redds
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    2M Flow
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    Laurentina
    Laurentina Premium [11]
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    Mr. 7, Mulvaney was the only trans AB hired and signed on as one of its spokespersons. Bud Light employed Dylan Mulvaney as a promoter on Instagram.

    AB is trying to shift blame on two marketing execs by placing them on leave. Alissa Heinerscheid, the vice president of marketing for Bud Light, and Daniel Blake, who oversees marketing for Anheuser-Busch’s mainstream brands, are on leave.

    Their data did not tell AB to hire a trans spokesperson. Hiring a trans spokesperson they thought was the trend along with the LGBTQ+ community extorting large companies into trans representation. AB took the bait and is paying dearly for it.

    It was an idiotic strategic bone-headed error and I hope this is a lesson to other large corporations to not take the trans extortion bait.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    No Idea, If you could buy them, I doubt you can now. Bud Light probably won't make that mistake again



    That was 1 too many obviously



    Nope, I don't follow him and don't have Tik Tok. It blew up and was all over the media immediately.



    I think people are fed up with the tranny culture being jammed down their throats, especially the whole men competing against women thing and using the same restrooms/showers as females.

    I would be one of those dads who didn't want their daughter sharing the same washrom as some guy in a dress slinging a dick.


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    It's f*cking advertising. Of course they're going to pander to different groups to buy it. That’s why they had her post it on her Tik-Tok page for her followers and didn’t put it in a Super Bowl ad. Fox News and right wing outlets are outrage porn. This is being forced down your throat because you are putting yourself in that position.

    And it’s piss water regardless of who's shilling for it.
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    People with mental health issues probably shouldn't be drinking anyhow.


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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    It's f*cking advertising. Of course they're going to pander to different groups to buy it. That’s why they had her post it on her Tik-Tok page for her followers and didn’t put it in a Super Bowl ad. Fox News and right wing outlets are outrage porn. This is being forced down your throat because you are putting yourself in that position.

    And it’s piss water regardless of who's shilling for it.
    Nah...they are trying to normalize this nonsense. Your point might have merit if it took place in a vacuum, but it is embedded within a much larger cultural context. Don't forget, this same dude interviewed President Biden FFS...and it certainly wasn't because he had anything interesting or unique about him other than his gender identity.
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    Nah...they are trying to normalize this nonsense. Your point might have merit if it took place in a vacuum, but it is embedded within a much larger cultural context. Don't forget, this same dude interviewed President Biden FFS...and it certainly wasn't because he had anything interesting or unique about him other than his gender identity.
    What interest does InBev have in trying to normalize trans people? She has 12 million followers on Tik-Tok. That’s what it’s about.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    What interest does InBev have in trying to normalize trans people? She has 12 million followers on Tik-Tok. That’s what it’s about.
    You were suggesting that the only reason people might take issue with this is because they are somehow addicted to outrage porn...which might be a valid observation if this incident took place within a vacuum. I am not saying InBev is trying to normalize anything per se, but rather that this incident took place within a larger context of this idiocy being normalized... which is why people are annoyed.
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    The LGBTQ+ outrage engine has never addressed why there are no women who dress like men to then participate in men's sports or anything else.

    That's a pretty good clue the men who claim to be trans, dressing like women and wearing makeup and then participating in women's sports are frauds. Not to mention the parents who exclaim that they have a trans child, are sick, virtue-signaling, attention-whores who are irreversibly damaging their children for life.

    Having a trans child is the new accessory fad of the smooth-brained.

    Anyone who disagrees are bigots, bullied and cancelled. It is frightening that a political party supports all this with no question.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Not to mention the parents who exclaim that they have a trans child, are sick, virtue-signaling, attention-whores who are irreversibly damaging their children for life.

    Having a trans child is the new accessory fad of the smooth-brained.
    Being a parent is a pretty tough job.

    My child (born male) feels that they are trans. Wants me to use she/her pronouns and has always always acted like a female right from her toddler years. I always noticed and so did everyone else. I can't say I was open to transition because when she was young I'd never heard of trans people. She wanted baby dolls and t-sets and barbies and girls clothes. I tried and tried to get her to play with nerf guns and legos like her brothers but no luck ever. She'd fight anything masculine tooth and nail. I gave up fighting when she was about 8 and just let her play with girls toys. There was no changing her. When it came to clothes I gave up the fight last year. She was sneaking make up and girls clothes to school and changing in the bathroom. This child will fight to be a girl all the way to her grave.

    Now puberty is setting in and we have some serious choices to make. At thirteen she can pass for female but in a year or two that may no longer be possible. I did not know what to do because I want her to make all her medical decisions as an adult. I want her to really think about these decisions and make them with no pressure from anyone else. But she keeps getting taller and taller and her shoulders are getting wider and wider and she is panicking because if she isn't allowed to make these changes till she is 18 she will be a fairly big person (her older brothers are 6'6" and 6'3").

    So I researched and read up on puberty blockers and that is the direction we will go in for now. She will be able to take pills that will block puberty while working with a therapist that will help her to navigate the choices available and to work through her feelings. I know she needs that. I have never seen someone hate and fear puberty like this. Floods of tears every time she grows an inch or goes up a shoe size. This child's greatest horror is that her body is becoming a mans body and she is trapped in it and can't get out. It's hard to discribe watching someone you love so much go through that. Being trans is not a cute 10 year old boy who wants to wear a toto. It's a thirteen year old collapsed on the bathroom floor weeping and freaking out because they feel like a freak and they can't get out of their body. It's terrifying as a parent to face this because you are so afraid of making the wrong choice and you have no idea if you are hurting or helping. And people judge you, your own family judges you. It's not a fun game to play. It's really hard.
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    Hold up. South Korea not only got a beer called "Cass", they got a whole range of flavors of "Cass". Cass Fresh, Cass Light, Cass Red, Cass Lemon, Cass Beats.

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    What interest does InBev have in trying to normalize trans people? She has 12 million followers on Tik-Tok. That’s what it’s about.
    They have infected your thought processing and normalized for you to call a biological male "she".
    This guy can call himself whatever he wants, doesn't mean the rest of us have to play along as well and pretend he's a she.
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    ^^^ Being a parent truly is a tough job.

    However, I don't buy that story. When I was growing up, I knew quite a few tom-boys and not one of them thought they were really boys much less did the parents go to the radical extremes of considering hormones or transition surgery. I also knew a couple of gay guys who acted feminine, but they didn't want to be girls and their parents never considered radical extreme hormones or transition surgery.

    I am not a parent, but I can say that if I were, I would never ever consider changing the sex of my child. Especially if he or she were under the age of 18. Doing that should be criminal.

    To be empathetic to these people who do consider hormones and transition surgery, is beyond unreal to me.

    I support the gay community, but when the trans-everything and everything-drag queens came along, I have lost a lot of respect.

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    What interest does InBev have in trying to normalize trans people? She has 12 million followers on Tik-Tok. That’s what it’s about.
    They hired/employed specifically a trans-person to be a spokesperson is pretty much an attempt to normalize trans people.
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    Being a parent is a pretty tough job.
    I don't doubt there are legit cases of real mental illnesses out there like the one you describe, but it would be foolish to suggest that Mark's observation doesn't account for a lot of these cases (Dylan Mylvaney strikes me as a prime example).
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    They hired/employed specifically a trans-person to be a spokesperson is pretty much an attempt to normalize trans people.
    12 million followers. They aren’t all trans folks. It’s marketing to the LGBQT community. That’s all it is.
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    12 million followers. They aren’t all trans folks. It’s marketing to the LGBQT community. That’s all it is.
    You cant honestly be that dense. You think the people there thought…”you know what, let’s piss off our base to try and cater to a few people who almost certainly aren’t going to buy our product anyway”. There’s a reason the phrase “get woke, go broke exists”. They can lose money over and over with terrible marketing and sh!tty movies that push an agenda, but they’ll still continue to do it. So obviously they think pushing this crap on society is worth they money they lose. Which makes you wonder…why are so many entities so adamant about pushing this crap?
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    You cant honestly be that dense. You think the people there thought…”you know what, let’s piss off our base to try and cater to a few people who almost certainly aren’t going to buy our product anyway”. There’s a reason the phrase “get woke, go broke exists”. They can lose money over and over with terrible marketing and sh!tty movies that push an agenda, but they’ll still continue to do it. So obviously they think pushing this crap on society is worth they money they lose. Which makes you wonder…why are so many entities so adamant about pushing this crap?
    Yes. That type of thinking is how they became a $130 billion company.
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    Companies are sponsoring people on platforms like Twitch or TikTok because they are advertising to those groups. You still have the ads on TV for the core audience but there is still money to be made in these side groups.

    So you nab a few known faces from those groups and tell them plug us next time your talking to your audience and we'll give you money. Those companies aren't making these random people the next "face" of the company or anything, just asking the people with an established voice within those communities to advertise for the company.

    They don't care if you're white, black, gay, straight, trans, or from alpha centuari if new people start buying your product that's a win.

    That's what happened here. People found someone who was being sponsored by Bud light and they just so happened to be the "enemy" in their eyes made a mountain out of a mole hill.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Companies are sponsoring people on platforms like Twitch or TikTok because they are advertising to those groups. You still have the ads on TV for the core audience but there is still money to be made in these side groups.

    So you nab a few known faces from those groups and tell them plug us next time your talking to your audience and we'll give you money. Those companies aren't making these random people the next "face" of the company or anything, just asking the people with an established voice within those communities to advertise for the company.

    They don't care if you're white, black, gay, straight, trans, or from alpha centuari if new people start buying your product that's a win.

    That's what happened here. People found someone who was being sponsored by Bud light and they just so happened to be the "enemy" in their eyes made a mountain out of a mole hill.
    That is not what it sounded like listening to the advertising exec. She was all onboard with identity politics nonsense and it came to bite her in the @ss.
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    That is not what it sounded like listening to the advertising exec. She was all onboard with identity politics nonsense and it came to bite her in the @ss.
    I didn’t see her comments. What did she say?
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    People with mental health issues probably shouldn't be drinking anyhow.


    Shame on Bud Light




    To be honest maybe this isn't what you should tell your kids. The fishing lady from "The Perfect Storm" is now on "Deadliest Catch" she said when she was young she was a Tom boy and asked her mom "Do I really have to be a girl"? Her mom told her, "You can be anything you want". She is HIGHLY respected among the Alaska crab fishers except the one guy whom she cut his lines 25 years ago (he never forgave that). Anyway she didn't end up with a beard, my guess is because her parents didn't say "you have to be a girl".
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    That is not what it sounded like listening to the advertising exec. She was all onboard with identity politics nonsense and it came to bite her in the @ss.
    So I found this interview podcast from march with the VP. I didn’t listen to the whole thing but I agree she clearly explicated an agenda that was clearly at odds with their core customer. She came across as arrogant and very hateable, which is what could have given this "boycott" legs. The media I saw saying it was all about Dylan is missing what made this thing big. It was the VP herself that should have pissed people off.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000605518132


    That being said she is not completely wrong in the idea that trying to appease to a community like Kid Rock fans, who know the current exchange rate between catalytic converters to Sudafed, is a dying business model, so they have to shift to a larger demographic of the young adult market and pull them from craft beer.

    And somewhere between 20 and 30% of Gen Z identify LGBQT, a number that that has doubled over the last 4 years. Whether you think that number is a good thing or not, corporations are going to have to adapt to it.
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    I didn’t see her comments. What did she say?
    I'd have to dig up the exact quotes, but something along the lines of "elevating" and "evolving" the brand beyond the collection of out of touch frat boys who currently drink Bud Light to be more "inclusive". To that end, she vowed to rectify the horrific lack of "representation" in the ad campaigns... which she cited as a goal independent of actual business results. In other words, not exactly a dispassionate objective analysis from a business perspective.

    I am guessing that AB hired a young female ad exec because they thought she might be able to understand and market to younger people more effectively -- not realizing that a Venn Diagram encompassing the experiences and views of a typical Bud Light drinker and that of an affluent female Harvard grad would essentially be two circles. If this were just about reaching young people by partnering with social media influencers, she could have easily done that by choosing the dozens of other influencers that aren't a centerpiece for one of the most controversial social issues of our day. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see this might not go over well with the current customer base.
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    So I found this interview podcast from march with the VP. I didn’t listen to the whole thing but I agree she clearly explicated an agenda that was clearly at odds with their core customer. She came across as arrogant and very hateable, which is what could have given this "boycott" legs. The media I saw saying it was all about Dylan is missing what made this thing big. It was the VP herself that should have pissed people off.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000605518132


    That being said she is not completely wrong in the idea that trying to appease to a community like Kid Rock fans, who know the current exchange rate between catalytic converters to Sudafed, is a dying business model, so they have to shift to a larger demographic of the young adult market and pull them from craft beer.

    And somewhere between 20 and 30% of Gen Z identify LGBQT, a number that that has doubled over the last 4 years. Whether you think that number is a good thing or not, corporations are going to have to adapt to it.
    I am not sure that the way to reach them is via direct appeal to their sexuality, but what the hell do I know?
    I think you nailed it in the last sentence of your second paragraph. I don't think Bud Light is in decline because they have overlooked the rainbow crowd...I think it is because the market is flooded with much better products and more choices...whereas years ago, you were drinking piss regardless of which brand you chose. If you have more than two nickels to rub together, why, under any circumstances, would you choose Bud Light?

    EDIT: If I didn't still have you on spread, I'd give you reps for the catalytic converters/Sudafed line.
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    7, you are saying that AB is merely just advertising to those fringe groups, i.e., LGBTQ+ and Trans. Yet, the effect has been a catastrophic $5 Billion+ loss in stock value as a direct result. Kind of proof that they fukked up really bad and AB’s main demographic revolted and justly so. By the way, that loss is getting higher every day with AB distributors going broke because their networks of distribution are drying up. Shareholders are not happy and many more will drop AB in a cascading event to cut their losses.

    So, this is much more serious than you are trying to convince us.

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    This has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, but for whatever reason I wanted to share it and it doesn't deserve it's own thread, so thread hijack yes... but you can go back to weird clown world again afterwards

    This morning was only the 3rd time in my life I have seen curls in the squat rack (being performed seriously not as a joke) with an Olympic bar and 5kg bumper/training plates. The rack was free anyway and it didn't disadvantage anyone or do anyone any harm so I have no problem with it. But I still can't help feeling WFT???

    OK... nothing more to see, you guys can go back to the thread agian
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    7, you are saying that AB is merely just advertising to those fringe groups, i.e., LGBTQ+ and Trans. Yet, the effect has been a catastrophic $5 Billion+ loss in stock value as a direct result. Kind of proof that they fukked up really bad and AB’s main demographic revolted and justly so. By the way, that loss is getting higher every day with AB distributors going broke because their networks of distribution are drying up. Shareholders are not happy and many more will drop AB in a cascading event to cut their losses.

    So, this is much more serious than you are trying to convince us.
    I wouldn’t consider the LGBQT community a fringe group. But yeah the Mulvaney thing brought attention to the interview the VP did, and it was the messaging in that which was toxic. It revealed a brand that wasn't just interested in trying to reach out to different people, but one which was doing so because it looked down upon its core customer base.

    Not sure they're gonna elevate Bud Light, but disassociating it as strictly for frat boys and your uncle the contractor makes more sense than, "let's put rainbows on it because this is the zeitgeist culture war issue that's gonna get us on the side of the kids".

    Still, I would think that much of the 20% drop in sales is temporary because businesses are seeing the anger, anticipating a reduction in sales, and ordering less, and they will rebound once the story calms down. But it will be interesting to see how this plays out over the long term.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Are you a parent?


    Guess what, Tomboys are girls.

    Guess what, She's still a girl.


    Because she wasn’t told she had to be a girl.

    I guess that flew over your head.

    You were too busy stuffing your face.
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