Anyone annoyed at FOX news?

[Lion of Zion]

Wow, you are disgusting. You take a commendable action and twist it so that it becomes "evil".

Because blindly throwing money at corrupt African dictatorships has worked so well thus far....

[Insanity_SC]

Because blindly throwing money at corrupt African dictatorships has worked so well thus far....

You think that's how most of the money is dispersed? lol....it's not.

Most African countries lack the public infrastructure to allow us to simply give them money. We build research centers and clinics there, supply the ARV meds directly, pay for the American/Canadian/European doctors. The ARV's in Africa are 100% foreign funded...and they have been working great so far.

[Lord_Lemon]

Who the **** watches Fox News first of all?

I do. Most people do.

[SupaFly78]

Fox News Channel: Fair and Balanced...yeah right. Fox News is incredibly biased and I hate the radical conservative spin they put on news.

"FAUX NEWS: FAIRLY UNBALANCED"

Give me a break a$$hole, as if every other news channel isn't liberal bias............so the Republicans get "1 CHANNEL" that caters to their political liking and here you are bitching about it.

[dabbmw2002]

Because blindly throwing money at corrupt African dictatorships has worked so well thus far....

Which Obama is doing through his Global Poverty Act, so you support conservatives who are against this?

[TheSheepdog]

good thread

but belongs in

Religion / Politics

[nonAtlas]

They go around classifying pretty much everything Obama does as Socialist. Government controlling means of production and industry is STATE Socialism, pure socialism is completely different.

No they don't. Actually they have been kissing Barry's ass raw since well before he brought his odor into the White House, so your claim is just silly repetition of what you hear/read on far-left networks (nbc; abc; cbs; pmsnbc; cnn; npr; pbs;...) and websites. And yes it is socialism at the very least; there is no difference. Government control of everything is B.O.'s agenda.

[SupaFly78]

good thread

but belongs in

Religion / Politics

This is far from a "good thread".

[tmc.]

Not even close. By saying that, you're saying that a nation whose economy is failing was greater than the likes of The Greeks, Macedonians, Persians, and Romans.

Yes, indeed, look where capitalism has gotten us. A recession every 20 years because of the hungry aristocracy. Who ends up paying for it? The proletarians.

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Now that we have that established, you're historical reference made absolutely zero sense. You just tried to sound smart and failed. The US has a government-controlled "capitalism," in which the government tries to use capitalist ideas, but cannot fathom making the government smaller (thus giving Congress little to do, can't do that!), so our "capitalism" doesn't work effectively. Thus, we suffer from economic cycles that occur because of policymakers.

Obama is attempting to revive our economy in the short-term at the cost of the long-term.

If it works, he's a genius and gets re-elected to another term. The economy is revived for 10 years. When the economy busts even harder because of HIS policies down the road, he won't be in office and the American people (especially 16 year olds and French-Canadians who want to be American and pretend they understand our country) will not hold him accountable. Simply put, Americans (mainly Obama fanboys and anyone else who votes without understanding why they are voting or what they are voting about) are too f*cking stupid to participate in any form of a democracy.

Capitalism transcends into these kinds of acts. Money is power in society, and it is an inevitably for a select few people to 'capitalize' and attain much of the money, or power, and then use that to manipulate politicians so that they stand to benefit.

This is a political system problem, not an economic problem. Stop electing corrupt *******s like Barney Frank, who 1) f*ck up the economy by increasing the government size and 2) steal from the American people.

Incentive is necessary in American society for our economy to be successful.

So Bush spent billions on people in other countries as his own citizens starve, live under the poverty level, struggle to pay health care costs, foreclose on their homes and face economic recession?

Chalk one up for the win category.

Oh boy, there's no question you're Canadian now. Which Bush-hating news network did you drink the koolaid from on that one?

Bush attempted to fill the role that MOST Americans wanted, although none of them will admit it now that things have gone sour. Bush is just a scapegoat for an inept Congress, government, and a moronic American public.

The US really should not be the world police and provide so much aid to Africa and Israel. Obama is doing the same things as Bush was doing internationally, just making different speeches.

You really are completely ignorant to everything American, but it is to be expected from a French-Canadian. How's that secession going? Lulz.

Obama supports the Global Poverty Act which sends over $800billion overseas, and this during a recession! Oh, the horror!!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=56405

Yeah, horrible bill that will get loaded with bull****, similar to the "economic stimulus." If anyone actually looked at what's in the stimulus bill, it's a f*cking joke. Millions of dollars to Jack Off State University to study why people are obese. Look it up.

[BrawnySwoleman]

This is far from a "good thread".

This.

[Lion of Zion]

Bush attempted to fill the role that MOST Americans wanted

He was doing it wrong

You really are completely ignorant to everything American,

Not true, I'm an expert in American pussy. It comes up here in droves.

but it is to be expected from a French-Canadian. How's that secession going? Lulz.

Majority of French-Canadians voted against secession & that was over 10 years ago. I, like the majority of Quebecois in my generation have never been for independence.

But at least we kept true to our traditions and went about it in a sophisticated and civilized manner. Didn't take 500,000 dead citizens to work out our internal political issues.

[TheSheepdog]

This is far from a "good thread".

idk

[dabbmw2002]

So Bush spent billions on people in other countries as his own citizens starve, live under the poverty level, struggle to pay health care costs, foreclose on their homes and face economic recession?

Chalk one up for the win category.

Obama supports the Global Poverty Act which sends over $800billion overseas, and this during a recession! Oh, the horror!!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=56405

Because blindly throwing money at corrupt African dictatorships has worked so well thus far....

Which Obama is doing through his Global Poverty Act, so you support conservatives who are against this?

Still waiting for you reply Koninkrijkbelgie

[tmc.]

He was doing it wrong






Not true, I'm an expert in American pussy. It comes up here in droves.



Majority of French-Canadians voted against secession & that was over 10 years ago. I, like the majority of Quebecois in my generation have never been for independence.

But at least we kept true to our traditions and went about it in a sophisticated and civilized manner. Didn't take 500,000 dead citizens to work out our internal political issues.

LOL, you just provided evidence for my argument. See how many Americans wanted to go into Iraq? His approval rating went WAY up. However, when things started to go sour, Americans started acting like they never wanted the war (typical). Everyone forgets that part.

You can't clamor for a war on Iraq and terror and then when it's much more difficult than thought, be like oh.. lol, I never wanted war! Bush sucks! What an idiot!

Your second comment just shows how big of a tool you are.

[Lion of Zion]

Still waiting for you reply Koninkrijkbelgie

Never said Obama was perfect or that I even liked him.

[Lion of Zion]

LOL, you just provided evidence for my argument. See how many Americans wanted to go into Iraq? His approval rating went WAY up. However, when things started to go sour, Americans started acting like they never wanted the war (typical). Everyone forgets that part.

People supported the Iraq war because the Bush administration saturated the American public with propaganda based on false intelligence and out right lies. Once those lies were exposed people saw the American action in Iraq by the Bush Administration for what it really was.

[dabbmw2002]

Never said Obama was perfect or that I even liked him.

Back when you had your other name- Lion of Zion


In response to the thread titled- Obama Fans: What is the #1 thing you are looking forward to?

More liberal judges on the supream court, America GTFO of Iraq, more troops in Afghanistan in the legitimate war. Higher taxes of corporations and the rich, less tax breaks and loopholes for them to elude their social responsibilities by. Strong protections on workers rights, living standards and fighting poverty in America.

But most of all a President who is competent, intelligent and rational who can actually shift America towards a positive future.
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From the thread you started titled- "So I just faxed in my vote

+1 for Obama in NY....... please America, for your sake and the sake of the world elect Obama. We can't do 4 more years of Bush.

From the thread titled- What is so admirable about Obama

He brings a level of rationality and common sense that has been void in Government for the past 8 years.

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[tmc.]

People supported the Iraq war because the Bush administration saturated the American public with propaganda based on false intelligence and out right lies. Once those lies were exposed people saw the American action in Iraq by the Bush Administration for what it really was.

That's just a cop out.

Americans wanted revenge and wanted someone to be held accountable. If you think the Bush Administration fabricated lies, that's fine. But, they did it to garner support from other nations and try to legitimize the war. Americans DID NOT CARE whether it was a legitimate war. We wanted security, revenge, and someone to be held accountable. Most people agreed that the war was the best way to achieve this.

You are misinterpreting the cause and effect.

Terrorists cause 9/11 - the effect is the war on Iraq/terror.

It is NOT:

Iraq has deadly weapons, causing Americans to fear for their security - effect is the war on Iraq/terror.

[Lion of Zion]

Back when you had your other name- Lion of Zion


In response to the thread titled- Obama Fans: What is the #1 thing you are looking forward to?




From the thread you started titled- "So I just faxed in my vote




From the thread titled- What is so admirable about Obama

Well I do support him, but I never brought that up in this thread. I don't agree with everything he is doing, but the majority of his stimulus package I think is the right path to limit the effects of this crisis.

As to the 800 billion to combat poverty, I don't know enough as to how it will be spread out, how it will be spent and how it will be used to comment further. I do think foreign aid and combating world poverty, hungar and exploitation is a moral responsibility of developed states. But only if done so in a reasonable way. The Bush administrations increase in forign aid was generally irresponsible and simply threw more money around with out any accountability as to how it was spent.

[dabbmw2002]

So Bush spent billions on people in other countries as his own citizens starve, live under the poverty level, struggle to pay health care costs, foreclose on their homes and face economic recession?

Chalk one up for the win category.

Well I do support him, but I never brought that up in this thread. I don't agree with everything he is doing, but the majority of his stimulus package I think is the right path to limit the effects of this crisis.

As to the 800 billion to combat poverty, I don't know enough as to how it will be spread out, how it will be spent and how it will be used to comment further. I do think foreign aid and combating world poverty, hungar and exploitation is a moral responsibility of developed states. But only if done so in a reasonable way. The Bush administrations increase in forign aid was generally irresponsible and simply threw more money around with out any accountability as to how it was spent.

First you state that we shouldn't spend money other countries while our own people starve. But then when Obama does it, it is a moral responsibilty of the developed countries to do so and what is needed is proper oversight that didn't exist under Bush.

your partisanship is amazing, thanks for the lulz brah

[Lion of Zion]

First you state that we shouldn't spend money other countries while our own people starve. But then when Obama does it, it is a moral responsibilty of the developed countries to do so and what is needed is proper oversight that didn't exist under Bush.

your partisanship is amazing, thanks for the lulz brah

Obama is spending both on his own citizens and on combating poverty though out the world. Bush cut spending to his own people and let them hang out to dry at the hands of cooperate greed yet his supporters champion his increased spending on foreign citizens as a crowning achievement.

[dabbmw2002]

Obama is spending both on his own citizens and on combating poverty though out the world. Bush cut spending to his own people and let them hang out to dry at the hands of cooperate greed yet his supporters champion his increased spending on foreign citizens as a crowning achievement.

[tmc.]

lol, this thread is pretty much over

Another one for the good guys.

[BrawnySwoleman]

lol, this thread is pretty much over

Another one for the good guys.

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[Lion of Zion]

And this shows......

[dabbmw2002]

Obama is spending both on his own citizens and on combating poverty though out the world. Bush cut spending to his own people and let them hang out to dry at the hands of cooperate greed yet his supporters champion his increased spending on foreign citizens as a crowning achievement.

And this shows......

that you're once again, wrong

[tmc.]

lol, this thread is pretty much over

Another one for the good guys.

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[Lion of Zion]

that you're once again, wrong

More total spending =/= more money getting to the Americans who need it.

[dabbmw2002]

More total spending =/= more money getting to the Americans who need it.

welfare spending increased 32% under Bush. If you are going to make the arguement that this still didn't get to people who deserve it, the President's job is not to micromanage spending. In fact, if anyone should do that it's Congress.

http://www.aier.org/research/comment...administration



you want to start bring facts or just make claim after empty claim?

[tmc.]

More total spending =/= more money getting to the Americans who need it.

Uhhhhhhhhh, no.

I'm trying to find the stimulus package .pdf file on the internet. I've looked through it before. It doesn't take long to see how much of the package is total BS put in by different Congressmen so that they will vote for it.