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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    No, no it isn't

    Repeated? Yes.

    Continuous? No.

    No evidence of non-stop antigen production.

    But, evidence of antibody production, which confirms the covid vaccines administered in the study were in fact vaccines
    Again..The paper shows antigen inevitably weakens our immune system..that’s the point.

    As far as repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, we see that clearly demonstrated here..

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3
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    You can reduce the chances of infection by taking preventative measures. A concept that isn't unique to covid.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    You can reduce the chances of infection by taking preventative measures. A concept that isn't unique to covid.
    Shill gonna shill
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Again..The paper shows antigen inevitably weakens our immune system..that’s the point.
    That's not what the paper shows/reports/demonstrates/supports.

    As far as repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, we see that clearly demonstrated here..

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3

    Frame shifting has nothing to do with non-stop antigen production.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    That's not what the paper shows/reports/demonstrates/supports.

    False
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    False
    Igg4 is neutralizing.

    Igg3 is the largest proportion.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Igg4 is neutralizing.

    Igg3 is the largest proportion.

    Antigen presentation from mistranslation of endogenous tumour mRNA has been shown to occur in vivo (for example, ref. 21). To address this possibility, we vaccinated mice with BNT162b2 and quantified their T cell response to in-frame SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and +1 frameshifted products predicted to occur by translation of the mRNA +1 frame, as well as an unrelated control antigen (SARS-CoV-2 M protein)
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    You can reduce the chances of infection by taking preventative measures. A concept that isn't unique to covid.
    Stay inside, mask up, only go outside when it's absolutely necessary!!!
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Antigen presentation from mistranslation of endogenous tumour mRNA has been shown to occur in vivo (for example, ref. 21). To address this possibility, we vaccinated mice with BNT162b2 and quantified their T cell response to in-frame SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and +1 frameshifted products predicted to occur by translation of the mRNA +1 frame, as well as an unrelated control antigen (SARS-CoV-2 M protein)
    No evidence of weakened immune system nor continuous (non-stop) antigen production.
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    Fuk. JLC coming in HOT!

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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Stay inside, mask up, only go outside when it's absolutely necessary!!!
    I see no reason to follow your orders.

    But, I do respect your right to do as you see fit for yourself
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    No evidence of weakened immune system nor continuous (non-stop) antigen production.
    Now you are just lying about both studies lol

    We show that 1-methylΨ is a modified ribonucleotide that significantly increases +1 ribo****l frameshifting during mRNA translation and that cellular immunity to +1 frameshifted products can occur following vaccination with mRNA containing 1-methylΨ. To our knowledge, this is the first report that mRNA modification affects ribo****l frameshifting.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    Fuk. JLC coming in HOT!

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    Except he is lying, read the studies for yourself
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Now you are just lying about both studies lol

    We show that 1-methylΨ is a modified ribonucleotide that significantly increases +1 ribo****l frameshifting during mRNA translation and that cellular immunity to +1 frameshifted products can occur following vaccination with mRNA containing 1-methylΨ. To our knowledge, this is the first report that mRNA modification affects ribo****l frameshifting.
    Why do you think frame shifting means continuous?

    You realize frame shifting occurs naturally, right?
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Why do you think frame shifting means continuous?

    You realize frame shifting occurs naturally, right?
    Because it effects antigen production
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    Because it effects antigen production
    Wat?

    The timeline/duration is the same.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Wat?

    The timeline/duration is the same.
    “Waat..waat..waat” REEE!!

    I’ll see it again..it effects antigen production
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    You can reduce the chances of infection by taking preventative measures. A concept that isn't unique to covid.
    but with covid why would you need to?
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    “Waat..waat..waat” REEE!!

    I’ll see it again..it effects antigen production
    In a single cell, when it occurs. As reported in the study you shared, the antigen is presented and the cell is targeted.

    There is no support for your claim of non-stop antigen production - you shared a study that supports the opposite
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    but with covid why would you need to?
    I think in personal health decisions it's more about want than need
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    In a single cell, when it occurs. As reported in the study you shared, the antigen is presented and the cell is targeted.

    There is no support for your claim of non-stop antigen production - you shared a study that supports the opposite

    Another lie

    Antigen presentation from mistranslation of endogenous tumour mRNA has been shown to occur in vivo (for example, ref. 21). To address this possibility, we vaccinated mice with BNT162b2 and quantified their T cell response to in-frame SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and +1 frameshifted products predicted to occur by translation of the mRNA +1 frame, as well as an unrelated control antigen (SARS-CoV-2 M protein)
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    Antigen presentation from mistranslation of endogenous tumour mRNA has been shown to occur in vivo (for example, ref. 21). To address this possibility, we vaccinated mice with BNT162b2 and quantified their T cell response to in-frame SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and +1 frameshifted products predicted to occur by translation of the mRNA +1 frame, as well as an unrelated control antigen (SARS-CoV-2 M protein)
    That's what I said

    This does not demonstrate non-stop antigen production.

    It demonstrates T cell response (in mice to a synthesized antigen).

    Literally the opposite of your claims ITT
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    That's what I said

    This does not demonstrate non-stop antigen production.

    It demonstrates T cell response (in mice to a synthesized antigen).

    Literally the opposite of your claims ITT
    Continued injections showed antigen production I quoted the study..exactly as I stated. This is why they found it “concerning”
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    "Effective May 1, 2024, hospitals are no longer required to report COVID-19 hospital admissions, hospital capacity, or hospital occupancy data to HHS through CDC’s National Healthcare Safety Network (NHSN)."

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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Continued injections showed antigen production I quoted the study..exactly as I stated. This is why they found it “concerning”
    No. It reports t cell response to synthesized frameshifted protein. Nothing about continued injections. Nothing about non-stop antigen production. Nothing about weakened immune systems.

    The results are not unique to mRNA vaccines, mistranslation occurs normally with naturally occurring mRNA strands.
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    I am always surprised to see that people are still arguing with J.L.C., who is known for fudging numbers and flat out lying in support of the popular narrative.

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    Originally Posted by frankdtank20 View Post
    "Effective May 1, 2024, hospitals are no longer required to report COVID-19 hospital admissions, hospital capacity, or hospital occupancy data to HHS through CDC’s National Healthcare Safety Network (NHSN)."

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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    No. It reports t cell response to synthesized frameshifted protein. Nothing about continued injections. Nothing about non-stop antigen production. Nothing about weakened immune systems.

    The results are not unique to mRNA vaccines, mistranslation occurs normally with naturally occurring mRNA strands.
    More lies..


    a prolonged presence of vaccine mRNA or antigen in the lymph node might be a potential explanation (12). Furthermore, a robust and persistent T follicular helper (TFH) cell response for up to 6 months after mRNA vaccination has been described in draining lymph nodes (17), which might be involved in the regulation of CSR by recurrent interactions of GC B cells with TFH cells.


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