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    Nice workout, Ant. Heavy Rows can be great. Have you done Kroc Rows?
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    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    Nice workout, Ant. Heavy Rows can be great. Have you done Kroc Rows?
    Yea i've done Kroc rows which are just high rep rows with a loose form.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Yea i've done Kroc rows which are just high rep rows with a loose form.
    at a weight that is higher than one normally does, which is the reason for the form breakdown.
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    I'm gonna go with triumvirate, but I'm gonna make my own exercises to use not his.
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    I'm gonna go with triumvirate, but I'm gonna make my own exercises to use not his.
    You should run 5x5 swapped compound accessories like this guy.

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    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    at a weight that is higher than one normally does, which is the reason for the form breakdown.
    The highest DB at my gym is only 100lbs. I'll just keep adding reps to that weight.

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    I'm gonna go with triumvirate, but I'm gonna make my own exercises to use not his.
    Right on man. There are so many ways to cater 5/3/1 to your liking and goals. Let me know if you need any of the e-books. I have the first and 2nd edition.
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    Originally Posted by Valhallabound86 View Post
    You should run 5x5 swapped compound accessories like this guy.

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    Originally Posted by nugget5 View Post
    I stalled a lot quicker when I ran madcow vs 531 and 531 got my power up a lot. I think this will help me focus much more on increasing the big three
    I meant 5/3/1 with 5x5 as part of your accessory, like my log.
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    Originally Posted by Valhallabound86 View Post
    I meant 5/3/1 with 5x5 as part of your accessory, like my log.
    Ahh yeah well for my accessory I'm gonna do 5x8 then 5x10-12
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    Great workout Anthony. Sounds like you have a good plan lined up for moving forward too.
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    Originally Posted by journey2swole View Post
    Great workout Anthony. Sounds like you have a good plan lined up for moving forward too.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Yea i've done Kroc rows which are just high rep rows with a loose form.
    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    at a weight that is higher than one normally does, which is the reason for the form breakdown.
    Kroc rows are db rows done with the heaviest weight you can, for as many reps as you can, preferably at least 20. In that sense it is not "a weight that is higher than one normally does", unless you normally go 20+ reps on your db rows. And even then, it is a set to failure or close to it.

    I cringe whenever I see someone say they did "Kroc rows" for 10-12 reps. No, you didn't. Do Kroc rows right, and they will humble you

    A good goal is to work up to doing Kroc rows with the heaviest dbs in your gym. So if your gym only carries up to 100's, try to work up to a set of 20+ with each hand.
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    Kroc Rows are great and will really give you wings, my gym has DB up to 140 and last year I was able to hit 120 for 26 reps. I could hit reps in the range of 10-12 with the 140s but Krock rows will definitely humble you. I also ran 440s to failure on BB shrugs, hit 440 to failure then strip a plate off each side and go to failure again until you get down to just the bar. Amazing that hitting 6 reps with a 45 barbell stripped could be so intense at the end. Great routines for building traps up strong.

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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    Kroc rows are db rows done with the heaviest weight you can, for as many reps as you can, preferably at least 20. In that sense it is not "a weight that is higher than one normally does", unless you normally go 20+ reps on your db rows. And even then, it is a set to failure or close to it.

    I cringe whenever I see someone say they did "Kroc rows" for 10-12 reps. No, you didn't. Do Kroc rows right, and they will humble you

    A good goal is to work up to doing Kroc rows with the heaviest dbs in your gym. So if your gym only carries up to 100's, try to work up to a set of 20+ with each hand.
    I understand what Kroc rows are and have been wanting to start working on them. Matter of fact your post inspired me to so I'm gonna start incorporating them.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    I understand what Kroc rows are and have been wanting to start working on them. Matter of fact your post inspired me to so I'm gonna start incorporating them.
    LOL nice avi bro. I can't help but smile back at you

    When I was working on Kroc rows, I started with a weight I thought I could hit 20 for. Once that happened, I upped it by 5 lbs next week and tried to hit 20 again. I won't increase until I hit 20 reps on each hand. I started with my weak hand first. Rinse, repeat.
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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    LOL nice avi bro. I can't help but smile back at you

    When I was working on Kroc rows, I started with a weight I thought I could hit 20 for. Once that happened, I upped it by 5 lbs next week and tried to hit 20 again. I won't increase until I hit 20 reps on each hand. I started with my weak hand first. Rinse, repeat.
    What a kroc of $hit Gonna attempt some kroc rows today, concept should be the same if I do with corner barbell setup
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    Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    What a kroc of $hit Gonna attempt some kroc rows today, concept should be the same if I do with corner barbell setup
    Doing this exact thing in about 30 minutes.

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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    LOL nice avi bro. I can't help but smile back at you

    When I was working on Kroc rows, I started with a weight I thought I could hit 20 for. Once that happened, I upped it by 5 lbs next week and tried to hit 20 again. I won't increase until I hit 20 reps on each hand. I started with my weak hand first. Rinse, repeat.
    Do you just do say 2 sets of a standard 10-12 reps then om your last set go for AMRAP?

    Originally Posted by nugget5 View Post
    Doing this exact thing in about 30 minutes.

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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    Nice work, Anthony. Looks like you're back into high gear.

    I should have the Aqua Red review up this evening, stay tuned.
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    Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    What a kroc of $hit Gonna attempt some kroc rows today, concept should be the same if I do with corner barbell setup
    LOL should work the same way with corner T-bars.

    Originally Posted by nugget5 View Post
    Doing this exact thing in about 30 minutes.

    Get in and kill it today Ant!
    Do it mang!

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    Do you just do say 2 sets of a standard 10-12 reps then om your last set go for AMRAP?



    No other option bro.
    I just did one warmup set for 10-12 reps and then went AMRAP on the Kroc row set.
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    So the Krocs are from a dude? I try to roll my shoulders down now and then when doing rows regardless. BLKLBL rows.
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    Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    So the Krocs are from a dude? I try to roll my shoulders down now and then when doing rows regardless. BLKLBL rows.
    Lol

    Kroc rows are named for this guy - Matt Kroczaleski:


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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    Lol

    Kroc rows are named for this guy - Matt Kroczaleski:

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    yea thats who i found.Still, I think I did this move first. BLKLBL rows all day =|

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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    Lol

    Kroc rows are named for this guy - Matt Kroczaleski:

    Interdasting. I've been doing them all this time (without all the grunting and yelling) just assuming they were called dumbbell rows.
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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    I just did one warmup set for 10-12 reps and then went AMRAP on the Kroc row set.
    I'll probably do 2 sets of 10-12 reps to warm up then a set for AMRAP I'll be doing them today probably again.

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    Interdasting. I've been doing them all this time (without all the grunting and yelling) just assuming they were called dumbbell rows.
    It's pretty much a DB row just with loose form and for as many reps as possible with the heaviest set.
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    I ended up doing 3 sets of 20 reps with Krocs today (55|60|65) just to get the feel of. Will slowly start increasing weight
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    Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    I ended up doing 3 sets of 20 reps with Krocs today (55|60|65) just to get the feel of. Will slowly start increasing weight
    Nice work buddy.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Nice work buddy.
    Thx, definitely a change of pace, especially doing at the end of my back workout. Huffin and puffin with each set!
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    Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    Thx, definitely a change of pace, especially doing at the end of my back workout. Huffin and puffin with each set!
    Personally I wouldn't do every set for AMRAP. I would just do 1-2 warm up sets of your standard reps, 10-12 then the last set go for the heaviest DB for AMRAP.
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