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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    So Obama gets to work around 8:30-9:00 AM and leaves around 6:00 PM. As president, he treated the job like a typical 9-5 job.

    Now President Trump?

    [youtube]kZkm-CHA67o[youtube]

    Gets up at 5AM and works until 12-1:00AM at night.

    And since you ignored my last post...
    Lol @ starting his day by going over all of his press as work. That whole video is about him obsessing over the press he receives. That and golfing ain't part of a work day.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Unlike Trump's taxes, their filings are public. Or do you have some kind of super-secret knowledge about how they "really" spent their money?
    You should look how the money was spent.

    Also where it came from.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    You should look how the money was spent.

    Also where it came from.
    I have and the money was spent just fine. And once again, all that is public while Trump' blatant using of his office to stuff his own pockets is all secret.

    But for some reason he supporters are perfectly cool with this. But I've stop trying to figure y'all out. It will be up to historians to try to explain to future generations how this con man was able to dupe and lie indiscriminately and yet face zero repercussions from his sycophants.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    And once again, all that is public while Trump' blatant using of his office to stuff his own pockets is all secret.
    but if its secret, how does random miscer know?
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    lolz

    "nice work ethic"
    You understand he OWNS his own golf course of which he can work and golf at the same time which is what most people who actually work (not you) end up doing.
    matter of fact ive seen at least 15 interviews of people talking about when trump was filling the his cabinet that they would talk business on the golf course.
    now whats your excuse little guy?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Lol @ starting his day by going over all of his press as work. That whole video is about him obsessing over the press he receives. That and golfing ain't part of a work day.
    obsessing? its not him making his own press, insecure guy.
    "2 scoops and everyone else only gets one"
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    "hes playing golf on his own golf course"
    peedophiles like you are the one that have the obsession.
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    You understand he OWNS his own golf course of which he can work and golf at the same time which is what most people who actually work (not you) end up doing.
    matter of fact ive seen at least 15 interviews of people talking about when trump was filling the his cabinet that they would talk business on the golf course.
    now whats your excuse little guy?
    Yeah, he OWNS the golf course, which is a massive conflict of interest. Every former president had divested themselves from their businesses before taking office. Trump uses his presidency to increase the price of club memberships and have the gov pick up the expensive tab of having a president visit a golf resort - his golf resort.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Unlike bernie's taxes, their filings are public. Or do you have some kind of super-secret knowledge about how they "really" spent their money?
    fixed for you.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Yeah, he OWNS the golf course, which is a massive conflict of interest. Every former president had divested themselves from their businesses before taking office. Trump uses his presidency to increase the price of club memberships and have the gov pick up the expensive tab of having a president visit a golf resort - his golf resort.
    funny because its HIS course it actually requires LESS expense than obama did seeing as how he doesnt need security all over the course, again unlike obama.
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    funny because its HIS course it actually requires LESS expense than obama did seeing as how he doesnt need security all over the course, again unlike obama.
    Trump has a lot more security costs because of this, Trump tower, etc.

    "About half of the money, nearly $60 million, is earmarked for the Secret Service, with most of it going toward protecting the president while he is traveling and security for Trump Tower in New York City, according to legislation being circulated on Monday.

    Another roughly $60 million would be set aside in a rare provision to reimburse localities, like New York City and Palm Beach County in Florida, that have incurred “extraordinary law enforcement personnel costs” associated with protecting Mr. Trump’s residences since Election Day."

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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    funny because its HIS course it actually requires LESS expense than obama did seeing as how he doesnt need security all over the course, again unlike obama.
    You make no sense. The day after he was elected president, he increased club memberships from $100K to $200K. His course doesn't require less expense than any other resort with a visiting president.

    Lol @ not needing security because it's his resort. "Derp, I don't need any security here. It's my place, so everyone here is my friend."
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    You make no sense. The day after he was elected president, he increased club memberships from $100K to $200K. His course doesn't require less expense than any other resort with a visiting president.

    Lol @ not needing security because it's his resort. "Derp, I don't need any security here. It's my place, so everyone here is my friend."
    meaning he controls whose there on the days hes there... i really need to explain that to you? you dont control who comes in your own house? derp.. you are stupid as it gets.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    Trump has a lot more security costs because of this, Trump tower, etc.

    "About half of the money, nearly $60 million, is earmarked for the Secret Service, with most of it going toward protecting the president while he is traveling and security for Trump Tower in New York City, according to legislation being circulated on Monday.

    Another roughly $60 million would be set aside in a rare provision to reimburse localities, like New York City and Palm Beach County in Florida, that have incurred “extraordinary law enforcement personnel costs” associated with protecting Mr. Trump’s residences since Election Day."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/u...rotection.html
    "The latest report looked at the cost of a four-day vacation President Barack Obama took to Palm Beach in February 2013. The trip cost approximately $3.6 million" kinda like a four day trip... or maybe $65,000 in hotdogs with 'walnut sauce"
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    "The latest report looked at the cost of a four-day vacation President Barack Obama took to Palm Beach in February 2013. The trip cost approximately $3.6 million" kinda like a four day trip... or maybe $65,000 in hotdogs with 'walnut sauce"
    "Officials estimate New York City is spending between $127,000 and $146,000 daily to protect Trump Tower. Most of the costs are related to the New York Police Department. They said they expected the daily cost to rise to $308,000 when Mr. Trump is in the five boroughs.

    The city spent about $24 million to protect Trump Tower between Election Day and Inauguration Day, the officials said.

    Other city agencies, like the Fire Department of New York, have also incurred costs related to Trump Tower. The FDNY has spent at least $1.7 million since Election Day, for example."

    Yea, Trump is just saving us so much money.

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    It's in your post history.





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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    "Officials estimate New York City is spending between $127,000 and $146,000 daily to protect Trump Tower. Most of the costs are related to the New York Police Department. They said they expected the daily cost to rise to $308,000 when Mr. Trump is in the five boroughs.

    The city spent about $24 million to protect Trump Tower between

    Election Day and Inauguration Day, the officials said.

    Other city agencies, like the Fire Department of New York, have also incurred costs related to Trump Tower. The FDNY has spent at least $1.7 million since Election Day, for example."

    Yea, Trump is just saving us so much money.

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/...ump-tower.html
    yeah your right little guy, on inauguration day is when the president is supposed to have the least security ever right?

    maybe we can all scream gun control while obama is taking money from the US to pay for his protection with armed guards, right?
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    yeah your right little guy, on inauguration day is when the president is supposed to have the least security ever right?
    What I'm right about is that protecting Trump, his family that doesn't all stay at the White House, and his other properties is absolutely not a cost saving thing, like you claimed.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    What I'm right about is that protecting Trump, his family that doesn't all stay at the White House, and his other properties is absolutely not a cost saving thing, like you claimed.
    i didnt say "trumps security is cost saving".... illiteracy?
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    Yeah, he OWNS the golf course, which is a massive conflict of interest. Every former president had divested themselves from their businesses before taking office. Trump uses his presidency to increase the price of club memberships and have the gov pick up the expensive tab of having a president visit a golf resort - his golf resort.
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    meaning he controls whose there on the days hes there... i really need to explain that to you? you dont control who comes in your own house? derp.. you are stupid as it gets.
    It's a resort. A business run by the Trump Organization. He doesn't control who gets to stay there and who doesn't any more than any other resort he visits (i.e., if it's a threat to the president, then the threat will be removed, regardless of who owns the establishment).

    Again, you make no sense and obviously don't know much about business. I bet you think his rooms are free and not paid by the gov to Mar-a-Lago? Like, download a basic business audio book from Audible and pick up a thing or two.

    But lol at, "Derp, let's bypass secret service this trip guys and just let that new busboy have a few days vacation. He's got creepy eyes, or so I'm told."
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    It's a resort. A business run by the Trump Organization. He doesn't control who gets to stay there and who doesn't any more than any other resort he visits (i.e., if it's a threat to the president, then the threat will be removed, regardless of who owns the establishment).

    Again, you make no sense and obviously don't know much about business. I bet you think his rooms are free and not paid by the gov to Mar-a-Lago? Like, download a basic business audio book from Audible and pick up a thing or two.

    But lol at, "Derp, let's bypass secret service this trip guys and just let that new busboy have a few days vacation. He's got creepy eyes, or so I'm told."
    did you just try to tell me that i think something completely unrelated just because you are too stupid to understand the difference?

    "But lol at, "Derp, let's bypass secret service this trip guys and just let that new busboy have a few days vacation. He's got creepy eyes, or so I'm told.""
    its almost like you think like a child thats never owned a business in your life. derp i have zero control over who comes in to my business. ok little guy.
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    ... its almost like you think like a child thats never owned a business in your life. derp i have zero control over who comes in to my business. ok little guy.
    What grounds do you think a hotel can, legally, deny me renting a room at their listed price?
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    What grounds do you think a hotel can, legally, deny me renting a room at their listed price?
    i didnt say anything about changing price. if trump plans a weekend at his resort as an example he can just close off parts of it at the times hes using them. how hard do you think this is, all they would have to do is inform guests before hand.
    hes not hosting 100,000 guests......... its not that hard if you run 100+ businesses but you cant figure out how to deal with smaller things like that? come on guy have you ever owned a business your self?
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    i didnt say anything about changing price.
    Neither did I.

    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    if trump plans a weekend at his resort as an example he can just close off parts of it at the times hes using them. how hard do you think this is, all they would have to do is inform guests before hand.
    You mean how a chunk of Trump Tower is "close[d] off" I guess that's why NY doesn't have to spend $100,000+ a day to protect it.
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    "The latest report looked at the cost of a four-day vacation President Barack Obama took to Palm Beach in February 2013. The trip cost approximately $3.6 million" kinda like a four day trip... or maybe $65,000 in hotdogs with 'walnut sauce"
    You really think a 4 day vacation for Obummer cost $3.6M. You've got to be ****ing kidding me. You can't possible be that stupid. Can you?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    You really think a 4 day vacation for Obummer cost $3.6M. You've got to be ****ing kidding me. You can't possible be that stupid. Can you?
    http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/680400.pdf
    you must be stupid then.


    Page 7
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    -17
    -24 Presidential Travel
    state, territory, or the District of Columbia to perform any activity for which
    suc
    h personnel and facilities are especially qualified.
    6
    The Coast Guard
    provides additional protection for the President when the Secret Service
    requests it. Typically, according to the Coast Guard, it provides waterside
    security zones, aircraft support, explosive detection, or other specialized
    capabilities in support of these requests. Figure 4 shows the types of
    Coast Guard aircraft and boats used to provide waterside security zones.
    Figure 4: Types of U.S. Coast Guard Assets Used for Presidential Security
    Presidential travel requires support from DOD and DHS. For the
    President’
    s trip to Illinois and Florida, we estimated that the two
    departments incurred costs of about $3.6 million, of which approximately
    $2.8 million was incurred by DOD and $0.77 million was incurred by
    DHS.
    7
    These costs do not include certain cost information from DOD that
    is classified. Moreover, as we examined the major costs incurred for the
    President’s travel
    , we did not include the salaries and benefits of U.S.
    government civilian and military personnel traveling with the President or
    involved with agency travel preparations, since these personnel would
    have received their salaries and benefits for the conduct of their regular
    duties and responsibilities regardless of whether the President traveled.
    The cost per flying hour for military aircraft is a significant cost driver that
    affects the overall costs of any presidential travel and these costs are
    predominately borne by the Air Force and the Marine Corps
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/680400.pdf
    you must be stupid then.


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    state, territory, or the District of Columbia to perform any activity for which
    suc
    h personnel and facilities are especially qualified.
    6
    The Coast Guard
    provides additional protection for the President when the Secret Service
    requests it. Typically, according to the Coast Guard, it provides waterside
    security zones, aircraft support, explosive detection, or other specialized
    capabilities in support of these requests. Figure 4 shows the types of
    Coast Guard aircraft and boats used to provide waterside security zones.
    Figure 4: Types of U.S. Coast Guard Assets Used for Presidential Security
    Presidential travel requires support from DOD and DHS. For the
    President’
    s trip to Illinois and Florida, we estimated that the two
    departments incurred costs of about $3.6 million, of which approximately
    $2.8 million was incurred by DOD and $0.77 million was incurred by
    DHS.
    7
    These costs do not include certain cost information from DOD that
    is classified. Moreover, as we examined the major costs incurred for the
    President’s travel
    , we did not include the salaries and benefits of U.S.
    government civilian and military personnel traveling with the President or
    involved with agency travel preparations, since these personnel would
    have received their salaries and benefits for the conduct of their regular
    duties and responsibilities regardless of whether the President traveled.
    The cost per flying hour for military aircraft is a significant cost driver that
    affects the overall costs of any presidential travel and these costs are
    predominately borne by the Air Force and the Marine Corps
    I'd suggest those numbers are bull**** like movie budgets, throw everything in to inflate the dollars, but regardless if it cost anywhere near that for Obummer, how much are we spending on Trump bi-weekly trips to Florida and NJ? A ****load more than Obummer's I'd wager.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    I'd suggest those numbers are bull**** like movie budgets, throw everything in to inflate the dollars, but regardless if it cost anywhere near that for Obummer, how much are we spending on Trump bi-weekly trips to Florida and NJ? A ****load more than Obummer's I'd wager.
    It seems a big chunk of this is Air Force One and its companion aircraft. Maybe we could make that cost less, but if a President is going somewhere they are on it and apparently it costs $$$ - so obviously Trump is adding that one up too.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Sad OP, blindly cutting & pasting someone else’s hysteria...

    - You could’ve properly called out his hypocrisy over tweets about Obama’s golfing, but you let that get buried in a pile of crap
    That was literally the entire point of the post - I don't even know what to say...
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    Originally Posted by Kreuzritter View Post
    did you just try to tell me that i think something completely unrelated just because you are too stupid to understand the difference?

    "But lol at, "Derp, let's bypass secret service this trip guys and just let that new busboy have a few days vacation. He's got creepy eyes, or so I'm told.""
    its almost like you think like a child thats never owned a business in your life. derp i have zero control over who comes in to my business. ok little guy.
    Just because his corporation owns the resort, it's not the same thing as a small business owner legally refusing to serve patrons. So K, cool if you own a lemonaide stand and call yourself a business owner, but you know nothing about how c-corps work, so give it a rest, kid.
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