★ Early bird fantasy football discussion - 2017 ★

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

GB RBs will be avoided early. Middle to late I'll grab one, but need more info on how that committee might look.

Also, how is 10th too high for Howard? Everyone was saying how he is better than Zeke last year. I don't know where Zeke ranks, but because of the reasons listed above, he should produce.

Not saying too high, just higher than anticipated by many I'm sure. A lot would have to do with how under the radar he was last year outside fantasy world.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

What Rookie RBs are you guys willing to take a chance on? I would be real hesitant to take Cook because of how bad the Vikes line is.........Fournette is probably the safest pick....he should run away with the starting job assuming he plays to potential. McCaffrey is a hard one to put a finger on. I could see them using him outa the backfield, in the slot..... probably a 10-15 touch per game until J Stew is hurt again.

[GolfPants]

What Rookie RBs are you guys willing to take a chance on? I would be real hesitant to take Cook because of how bad the Vikes line is.........Fournette is probably the safest pick....he should run away with the starting job assuming he plays to potential. McCaffrey is a hard one to put a finger on. I could see them using him outa the backfield, in the slot..... probably a 10-15 touch per game until J Stew is hurt again.

I like them all as players so it really just comes down to how high they are going in drafts. I'd be willing to take a chance on all of them for the right price.

Without digging into it, my thoughts off the top of my head...

Fournette - highest floor. You don't take a RB 4th overall unless you plan on feeding him carries. So he's got basically no competition between him and 25 touches per game as well as all goal line touches. The downside is the offensive line sucks (Cam Robinson may help a bit) and Blake Bortles is the QB. Say hello to 11 man boxes lol.

McCaffrey - 2nd highest floor. If the RB taken 4th is getting fed, so is the RB taken 8th. Carolina's offense is better than Jacksonville's, and McCaffrey will be used much more extensively in the passing game. In a ppr league I'd take him over Fournette. I just worry about how much use he'll get at the goal line.

Mixon - highest ceiling. I believe Mixon was the most talented RB in the draft. And he can be used all over for the Bengals. Passing game, goal line, etc. The problem is the crowded backfield, what seems to be a poor offensive line, and a 2nd round pick isn't as much of a 'commitment' to him as the previous 2 guys.

Cook - Idunnolol. I like the player. I hate minny's O line. I hate that Lat Murray is there. I expect Cook to become the starter fairly quickly but lose some carries to Murray in what will be a mediocre at best rushing attack.

I'd probably value Fournette & McCaffrey as mid-high lvl RB2s and Mixon & Cook as mid round dart throws.

[disphugginflip]

With the RB position being so shallow, I always get one first round even in PPR leagues. Last year I got David Johnson as my 1st pick and he lead me to the championship. This year I want him or Elliot.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

With the RB position being so shallow, I always get one first round even in PPR leagues. Last year I got David Johnson as my 1st pick and he lead me to the championship. This year I want him or Elliot.

DJ will be going #1 overall everywhere. Bell right behind him most likely with Zeke not far off. Howard is going to creep into the 1st round in 10 and 12 man leagues as well. Three down backs are extremely valuable given how scarce they are.

Rebound season this year could go to Lamar Miller. He's the workhorse, and despite my frustrations last year, I think he could turn it up assuming Watson is legit. Other teams will have to respect the pass game which will open things up for him. Combine that with another year in the system and familiarity. No first rounder, but 2nd rounder I'd assume.

[yuja]

DJ will be going #1 overall everywhere. Bell right behind him most likely with Zeke not far off. Howard is going to creep into the 1st round in 10 and 12 man leagues as well. Three down backs are extremely valuable given how scarce they are.

Rebound season this year could go to Lamar Miller. He's the workhorse, and despite my frustrations last year, I think he could turn it up assuming Watson is legit. Other teams will have to respect the pass game which will open things up for him. Combine that with another year in the system and familiarity. No first rounder, but 2nd rounder I'd assume.

Miller always ends up nicked up/playing at less than 100% and his backups suck too (at least last year)

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Miller always ends up nicked up/playing at less than 100% and his backups suck too (at least last year)

Should have asterisk "if healthy"...... because he really has no competition in the backfield.

[yuja]

Should have asterisk "if healthy"...... because he really has no competition in the backfield.

they did take foreman 3rd round, but yeah he owns that backfield and all 3 downs if he's healthy

reminds me of the good ol arian foster days, but with slightly less injury risk than foster and not as good as foster either

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

they did take foreman 3rd round, but yeah he owns that backfield and all 3 downs if he's healthy

reminds me of the good ol arian foster days, but with slightly less injury risk than foster and not as good as foster either

any thoughts on possible duds/regressions for the upcoming year?

[dhawkeye1980]

What Rookie RBs are you guys willing to take a chance on? I would be real hesitant to take Cook because of how bad the Vikes line is.........Fournette is probably the safest pick....he should run away with the starting job assuming he plays to potential. McCaffrey is a hard one to put a finger on. I could see them using him outa the backfield, in the slot..... probably a 10-15 touch per game until J Stew is hurt again.

Mixon for me hill sucks n gio is not a 3 down back

[Jayarbie]

any thoughts on possible duds/regressions for the upcoming year?

I feel like Ajayi is going to be overhyped. He had like 2 or 3 games and a whole bunch of nothing.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

I feel like Ajayi is going to be overhyped. He had like 2 or 3 games and a whole bunch of nothing.

Definitely agree with this one. didn't something like 60% of his production come from 3-4 games? He will go way higher than he should.

[disphugginflip]

DJ will be going #1 overall everywhere. Bell right behind him most likely with Zeke not far off. Howard is going to creep into the 1st round in 10 and 12 man leagues as well. Three down backs are extremely valuable given how scarce they are.

Rebound season this year could go to Lamar Miller.He's the workhorse, and despite my frustrations last year, I think he could turn it up assuming Watson is legit. Other teams will have to respect the pass game which will open things up for him. Combine that with another year in the system and familiarity. No first rounder, but 2nd rounder I'd assume.

I hope so. Im from Houston, and everybody is excited about the Texans picking up Watson. We just need a decent TE and I think we can go all the way.

[yuja]

any thoughts on possible duds/regressions for the upcoming year?

QB: Luck
RB: Ajayi, DeMarco, Gurley, Hyde, Lacy, Kelley, Hill, Gore
WR: haven't really looked, like a lot of them this year. Staying away from Allen/Watkins because injury prone, not a huge believer in Adams' consistency..Amari too inconsistent for a top pick
TE: sucked so much last year there isn't much regression left. optimistic about a bunch of TEs

[disphugginflip]

^^^ Just Kelce and Gronk. TE pool sucks.

[dhawkeye1980]

^^^ Just Kelce and Gronk. TE pool sucks.

Delanie was pretty money for me

[dhawkeye1980]

QB: Luck
RB: Ajayi, DeMarco, Gurley, Hyde, Lacy, Kelley, Hill, Gore
WR: haven't really looked, like a lot of them this year. Staying away from Allen/Watkins because injury prone, not a huge believer in Adams' consistency..Amari too inconsistent for a top pick
TE: sucked so much last year there isn't much regression left. optimistic about a bunch of TEs

I have a feeling cook will be so boom or bust next year at NE. Sure he will have his big games but they will be way more busts.

[Murph0408]

any thoughts on possible duds/regressions for the upcoming year?

Matt Ryan, regression to the mean

Blount obviously, no matter where he goes
Tyreek Hill, just seems kinda fluky and not used enough. 83 targets last year but being drafted among guys who received 120-130

Latavius, don't see him getting double digit TDs with the vikings

[Tyler2106]

I have a feeling cook will be so boom or bust next year at NE. Sure he will have his big games but they will be way more busts.

I could definitely see Cooks being up and down each week, but my guess is he will put up really good numbers. The guy is too talented to not have a great season. I think he will continue his 1000 yard receiving numbers this year. It feels like he could be Moss 2.0

[disphugginflip]

Delanie was pretty money for me

You right, forgot about walker.

[yuja]

You right, forgot about walker.

Olsen & Ertz should be consistent

Bennett looks promising in GB

[dhawkeye1980]

I could definitely see Cooks being up and down each week, but my guess is he will put up really good numbers. The guy is too talented to not have a great season. I think he will continue his 1000 yard receiving numbers this year. It feels like he could be Moss 2.0

Maybe but i have a feeling he will be way over drafted

[yuja]

Maybe but i have a feeling he will be way over drafted

he's the first real deep threat they've had since Moss, but yeah I wouldn't be sure how consistent he'll be game to game. They've got ball catchers out of the backfield + Hogan/Edelman/Mitchell/Gronk.

I wouldn't mind him in the 3rd though

[dhawkeye1980]

Olsen & Ertz should be consistent

Bennett looks promising in GB

Love me some ertz next year, with alshon taking a lot of pressure off the middle.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Love me some ertz next year, with alshon taking a lot of pressure off the middle.

hnnnggg I'm going for some Ertz as well. He came on very strong last year. Although a lot of that was because he was the only reliable target. Still, Wentz has good chemistry with him. I remember starting him in my week 2 championship match when he went off for 100+ and 3TDS.

I agree with a lot of the predictions here, especially Ryan. I think he'll still have a good season, but not the caliber of last year. Also think Tyreek will be too boom or bust. 20 points one week, 4 the next. I also never draft any Patriots players, lol. Between Gronk always being hurt, and never knowing who will be Brady's favorite that game its too much of a headache.

[yuja]

hnnnggg I'm going for some Ertz as well. He came on very strong last year. Although a lot of that was because he was the only reliable target. Still, Wentz has good chemistry with him. I remember starting him in my week 2 championship match when he went off for 100+ and 3TDS.

I agree with a lot of the predictions here, especially Ryan. I think he'll still have a good season, but not the caliber of last year. Also think Tyreek will be too boom or bust. 20 points one week, 4 the next. I also never draft any Patriots players, lol. Between Gronk always being hurt, and never knowing who will be Brady's favorite that game its too much of a headache.

You mean you won't have any shares of that 4 man backfield?

Fkin pleb. l2p

[dhawkeye1980]

hnnnggg I'm going for some Ertz as well. He came on very strong last year. Although a lot of that was because he was the only reliable target. Still, Wentz has good chemistry with him. I remember starting him in my week 2 championship match when he went off for 100+ and 3TDS.

I agree with a lot of the predictions here, especially Ryan. I think he'll still have a good season, but not the caliber of last year. Also think Tyreek will be too boom or bust. 20 points one week, 4 the next. I also never draft any Patriots players, lol. Between Gronk always being hurt, and never knowing who will be Brady's favorite that game its too much of a headache.

It would blow my mind if hill doesnt see way more snaps this year, dude is legit talent and only played like 40% of snaps last year at the end.

[dhawkeye1980]

You mean you won't have any shares of that 4 man backfield?

Fkin pleb. l2p

They have 5 damn RBs this year, white, lewis, burkhead, boldin and gillslee

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

You mean you won't have any shares of that 4 man backfield?

Fkin pleb. l2p

Hard to pass up I know, lulz... still on spread with you.

It would blow my mind if hill doesnt see way more snaps this year, dude is legit talent and only played like 40% of snaps last year at the end.

I fully agree about talent, the limiting factor is Alex Smith who is captain safe play. He can't maximize Hill's speed. Give him a QB with a cannon and he'd be devastating.

[dhawkeye1980]

What about Decker this year? He is usually a PPR magnet and is prob going to go pretty late