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    I have lot of firearms but the one I keep in the bedroom for defense is a pump action shotgun with a staggered load, two rounds of 00 shot, the next round is a slug. The next three shots are a repeat of the first three. Lots of stopping power. IMHO, you don't need a 30 round mag for home defense. You're not likely to be attacked by zombies or some drug lords army, like in Scarface.

    My Australian Cattle Dog sleeps at the foot of my bed but if someone broke into my house, she'd happily hold the flashlight for them if they were nice to her...

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    Lol if you're not using ak47 or mp5.









    Op shotgun looks intimidating for the ones who know nothing about guns and the fact that u can blow someone out of proportion without any training.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    1. the sound of a shotgun cycling has made more than one intruder leave the premises.
    Citation?

    I'm not picking a gun because it sounds scary when cocked. Best gun is one that you are proficient with. Whether that be AR, handgun or shotgun.
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    I would go with a handgun, I can clear doors better, keep the weapon towards my chest or come from a low ready very quickly.
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    Originally Posted by steeperdolphin View Post
    9mm, AR5, AR15, 380, 25 and a 22 checking in...

    Oh and this guy right here.

    If someone has the unique combination of stupidity to try to get past your dog and the guile to actually do so... please do take them out of the gene pool.
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    Originally Posted by avodo View Post
    just lol if you're not using one of these for home defense

    I got russian army brahs on vacation in my backyard. Am I gonna make it?
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    Originally Posted by Cudabrah View Post
    The sound a loading a shotgun is intimidating as hell. Also, you don't have to be that accurate.

    Try shooting an intruder in the dark at 30 ft with a 4" barrel vs a shotgun which will cover half of the room in one shot.
    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    1. the sound of a shotgun cycling has made more than one intruder leave the premises. This alone is why they are endorsed so well for home protection.
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    Originally Posted by PickItUp View Post
    There are many reasons, but in the end, an AR-15 is probably the best option.
    1. Long guns are better for aiming than pistols. So that's one plus.
    2. Shotguns also have immense stopping power with 9 pellets of 00 buck, that's like 9 different 9mm projectiles headed towards the vitals of an assailant. #1 buck I think has 16 30 caliber projectiles...also very nice.
    3. Shotguns can be very cheap
    4. Buckshot is less likely to penetrate a wall and hit someone on the other side like a pistol round will.

    However, most shotguns will suffer from low magazine volume. The recoil is also quite high. An AR-15 with 30rd magazine is probably better as it brings substantial firepower with little recoil...yet maintains the long gun aiming.
    I agree with everything except the buckshot penetration. Even though a single piece of shot in 00 size is only 60 grains, they fly at up to 1,600fps and have just as much energy as hot pistol round. They are usually made out of hardened lead alloy, and these stay intact and don't deform much.


    Originally Posted by rootcon View Post
    Can't say I've seen many swat teams use shotguns, seems like most use MP5s or UMPs. So I guess that's the answer, preferred weapon for home defense is a submachine gun.

    Too bad Ronald Reagan banned USA citizens from owning them
    Pistol rounds are garbage for stopping people. The vast majority of people who are shot with a handgun survive, and there is a mile long list of criminals who've been shot multiple times with 9mm-.45ACP rounds and still continued fighting. SWAT teams use AR-15 style rifles and 12ga. shotguns, as well as pistols when one hand has to be occupied with something else. The military also favors intermediate and large caliber rifles for killing/incapacitating people, which is a good indicator of their effectiveness.
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    Originally Posted by FitStick View Post

    Pistol rounds are garbage for stopping people. The vast majority of people who are shot with a handgun survive, and there is a mile long list of criminals who've been shot multiple times with 9mm-.45ACP rounds and still continued fighting. SWAT teams use AR-15 style rifles and 12ga. shotguns, as well as pistols when one hand has to be occupied with something else. The military also favors intermediate and large caliber rifles for killing/incapacitating people, which is a good indicator of their effectiveness.
    Brah a 9mm will put someone down immediately and quickly. This is why you shoot more than once.

    A .223 AR would be good for home defense. It WILL penetrate your drywall and go into your neighbors house though.
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    I've heard the chance of hitting your loved ones inside your house is lower with a shotgun.

    Heard a good example of a .357 mag going through multiple houses, granted that's a .357 lol
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    Regardless of your choice of weapon for home defense, I strongly recommend having a tactical light on the weapon. A standard FMJ 9mm round will go through an intruder and your walls possibly. With 12ga you don't have to worry about stray rounds.
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    Originally Posted by gingersliftto View Post
    I've heard the chance of hitting your loved ones inside your house is lower with a shotgun.

    Heard a good example of a .357 mag going through multiple houses, granted that's a .357 lol
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    Originally Posted by only4theweak187 View Post
    There are a **** ton of videos of police shooting people with handguns and ****ers are still coming at them for up to like a full minute after.
    That's why you shoot more than once until they stop moving


    Obviously if you can afford it you should get a better caliber like a .357 sig though
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    brb fuking up the house shooting at people. who has to clean the house up? you or insurance company?
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    Get a .500 S&W Magnum or 50 BMG Handgun for self-defense, either will remove a head or limb at 25 yards, lol.
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    Originally Posted by Treme View Post
    They shots usually arent lethal through walls/at greater distances.
    Buck will tear right the fuk through a wall. Birdshot however probably won't.

    For home defense, you want dragons breath rounds. Start firing at every flammable object you see. Burn that bish to the ground, no house, no intruders.
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    Originally Posted by EnderG60 View Post
    lol someone actually negged me for the rock salt round.

    Guess Im the only one that wants to see the fukwit that broke into my house writhing around in pain while my dog barks at him waiting for the cops.

    You come into my world like that and a quick death is a gift.
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    Originally Posted by EpicLevelWizard View Post
    Get a .500 S&W Magnum or 50 BMG Handgun for self-defense, either will remove a head or limb at 25 yards, lol.
    lol if you shoot someone center mass with a .50BMG they literally explode all over.
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    police officer friend called the racking of a shotgun "the international sound of terror".

    in other words - quiet house...shot gun racking...= intruder typically fleeing before you even see them.
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    Originally Posted by dgarner58 View Post
    police officer friend called the racking of a shotgun "the international sound of terror".

    in other words - quiet house...shot gun racking...= intruder typically fleeing before you even see them.
    You can just pull the slide back on your pistol and that will also make a similar sound
    The above post is 100% false
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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    I never understood this ( especially pump action ). Unless you get your stamps they have to have an 18" barrel and be at least 26" long.

    Why would you want a long arm like that in the CQC environment? Any pistol with a 30rd mag and hollowpoints would be more ideal than a shotgun.
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    In all seriousness, probably don't want something with high penetration value, your in tight space probably in suburb so bullets go through drywall and windows ...
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    WTF is wrong with you americans and your guns? Why the f do you even need a gun, does really every damn house is being attacked/robbed there on weekly basis?
    I thought the US is one of the most developed countries in the world yet you still live in such dark ages that each and every1 of you need a damn gun?
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    Originally Posted by JonJonSC View Post
    Regardless of your choice of weapon for home defense, I strongly recommend having a tactical light on the weapon. A standard FMJ 9mm round will go through an intruder and your walls possibly. With 12ga you don't have to worry about stray rounds.
    I could be wrong but I don't think police exclude certain weapons because they penetrate walls and could cause collateral damage (considering the AR15/M4 is used by many swat). Police choose the best weapon for the task even if it could penetrate walls, and so will I.
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    Originally Posted by JonJonSC View Post
    Regardless of your choice of weapon for home defense, I strongly recommend having a tactical light on the weapon.
    I for one have never been a fan of highlighting my position in a firefight. A tactical light might help you find your target in the dark but it sure as hell tells the bad guy exactly where you are.
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    Originally Posted by Cudabrah View Post
    Also, you don't have to be that accurate.

    will cover half of the room in one shot.

    This is what I came in here for. Leaving satisfied.


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