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    As an FYI for those that were interested in this, it is currently on sale, along with the other AndroSeries products.
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    Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    As an FYI for those that were interested in this, it is currently on sale, along with the other AndroSeries products.
    Its over now but hitting up a rep would be even better ; )
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    Originally Posted by chimeranD View Post
    I love how the PP reps swarm all the threads about the andro series saying how theoretically they're supposed to be better than your regular PH's. All I've heard so far is "the logs will show how great it is" but even the pictures posted on other sites really don't show much change aside from looking oiled up. Not to mention the majority of the logs being run include some heavy duty PH's along side andro.

    These guys run around pimping products they haven't even tried themselves, I don't even think Eric has tried it, he's the head of PP or something like that right?
    Ive been putting it off but either in August or September ill be running an Androseries cycle. I believe Eric will be as well.
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    Originally Posted by GoodGrip View Post
    Ive been putting it off but either in August or September ill be running an Androseries cycle. I believe Eric will be as well.
    So you at least you admit you guys haven't used them. Pretty sure it's bad business ethics to run around telling everyone how great your products are when you haven't even tried them out yourselves.
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    Don't waste your money

    I do not think this product actually works, I do cardio 4-5 times a week (HIIT) + a medium distance run, lift 5 times a week, and follow a pretty clean restricted diet. I was looking for some desired results from this so called amazing product. I stack it with NO2 (L-Arganine) and Green Tea plus I drink Grapefruit Juice out of habit in the morning. This product along with AndroMass (which my buddy is taking) has the equivalent to 16 fluid oz of Grapefruit juice per dosage which makes me think this is the main ingredient not the supposed *steroids* in the supplement. My strength has not increased anymore than it would from doing proper weightlifting to target strength and I am not seeing any further results in lean muscle or fat loss because as I stated I am a calorie counter and would notice. I can tell you with experience from supplementing numerous variations over the 16 years I have been working out and personal training that do not waste your money. Just buy simple products like green tea, caffeine, or amino acids to supplement your workout. There are waaaay better products out there that cost way less. These is just over priced grapefruit juice extract pills to boost metabolism if they even do that.

    And as you can tell I am not a blogger or a forum responder usually by my lack of posts in 6 years on this site. I actually felt the need to bash this garbage of a product. I
    also agree with ChimeranD from the above reply...how can you sit here and boast about your supplements if you haven't even tried them yourselves....I actually want my 100% money back that is promised on the website
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    Originally Posted by U.S.M.C. TANKER View Post
    lol, a pp rep asking me this. TCF-1 and SA. Both over priced, TCF-1 works no better or worst than regular daa, yet cost 3x as much. SA was a joke really, did not feel a thing. Although I did not spend actual cash on these products, I do feel stupid for trading other supps for them.

    PP is muscle tech, but targets the online noobs instead of gnc noobs. Brb outrageous claims, brb outrageous price, brb mediocre results.
    Id rather spend 3x more money for TCF-1 than regular DAA even if the effects are the same. Its a matter of convenience to use. I think TCF-1 has little to none reports of stomach distress over bulk DAA.
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    Originally Posted by chimeranD View Post
    So you at least you admit you guys haven't used them. Pretty sure it's bad business ethics to run around telling everyone how great your products are when you haven't even tried them out yourselves.
    I have used the product, any direct question?

    Originally Posted by italiandragon View Post
    I do not think this product actually works, I do cardio 4-5 times a week (HIIT) + a medium distance run, lift 5 times a week, and follow a pretty clean restricted diet. I was looking for some desired results from this so called amazing product. I stack it with NO2 (L-Arganine) and Green Tea plus I drink Grapefruit Juice out of habit in the morning. This product along with AndroMass (which my buddy is taking) has the equivalent to 16 fluid oz of Grapefruit juice per dosage which makes me think this is the main ingredient not the supposed *steroids* in the supplement. My strength has not increased anymore than it would from doing proper weightlifting to target strength and I am not seeing any further results in lean muscle or fat loss because as I stated I am a calorie counter and would notice. I can tell you with experience from supplementing numerous variations over the 16 years I have been working out and personal training that do not waste your money. Just buy simple products like green tea, caffeine, or amino acids to supplement your workout. There are waaaay better products out there that cost way less. These is just over priced grapefruit juice extract pills to boost metabolism if they even do that.

    And as you can tell I am not a blogger or a forum responder usually by my lack of posts in 6 years on this site. I actually felt the need to bash this garbage of a product. I
    also agree with ChimeranD from the above reply...how can you sit here and boast about your supplements if you haven't even tried them yourselves....I actually want my 100% money back that is promised on the website
    I am not quite sure what you are stating here. You were looking for large strength increases on a product designed to provide hormonal support for a larger than normal caloric deficit? You do realize you choose the wrong product for your goals, correct? Also, as an FYI, the grapefruit juice is solely for cyp3a4 inhibition, increasing bioavailability of the compounds in each product. Grapefruit juice was not included for any reason other than its ability to work in this fashion. The only "effect" outside of increasing bioavailability you may notice is the occasional grapefruit burp, and being a big fish oil kind of guy, its actually a bit refreshing

    Originally Posted by KimJong-il View Post
    Id rather spend 3x more money for TCF-1 than regular DAA even if the effects are the same. Its a matter of convenience to use. I think TCF-1 has little to none reports of stomach distress over bulk DAA.
    Thank you for your support KimJong. If you are looking to purchase TCF-1 any time soon, hit me up for a discount.
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    Originally Posted by chimeranD View Post
    So you at least you admit you guys haven't used them. Pretty sure it's bad business ethics to run around telling everyone how great your products are when you haven't even tried them out yourselves.
    I hear what your saying bro and its all good, but let me at least get comfortable before I make my run. I want to be sure all systems are go and not just run something for the sake of being able to say I have tried the product out. Btw im mostly goin by other users feedback when relating how awesome these products are, but in due time ill get around to them and be able to share my own feedback.

    Trust me, I want and will run these, but when im ready. As for now I dont see anything wrong with spreading the word, these products have proven themselves.
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    bump to see if anyone is interested in running a log.
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    Originally Posted by GoodGrip View Post
    bump to see if anyone is interested in running a log.
    I've used androlean, I prefer Androhard way way way more man. You guys should make it cheaper!
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    Tempted to stack androhard + androlean but good God those prices.. ick. I don't take AAS.. but seriously to stack the two together.. I'm better off going with a Anavar + Test En cycle.*

    Looks like a good combo during the end of my T3 run and after.
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    I did an AndroLean + AndroHard cycle and was much more impressed by the AndroHard. The thermo effect of AndroLean was strong but it didn't seem to translate into sped up fat loss. AndroHard was nice though, definitely dried me out and strength increased while dieting.
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    Originally Posted by T50 View Post
    I did an AndroLean + AndroHard cycle and was much more impressed by the AndroHard. The thermo effect of AndroLean was strong but it didn't seem to translate into sped up fat loss. AndroHard was nice though, definitely dried me out and strength increased while dieting.
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    Originally Posted by RampantBeast View Post
    I took H-Drol when I was 16 and SD Extreme at 18 but they didn't do much. Maybe these are better?
    In my opinion andro lean is bunk. I ordered two bottles of it a couple months ago and have already finished the first one, did pct then took the second bottle and the results were next to none. I wouldn't buy from this company again.
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    Originally Posted by Malone4729 View Post
    In my opinion andro lean is bunk. I ordered two bottles of it a couple months ago and have already finished the first one, did pct then took the second bottle and the results were next to none. I wouldn't buy from this company again.
    What were your results and diet? Curious to hear more we can keep it to Pm if you wish.
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    My friend has a bottle of lean and hard, took for 5 days but doesnt want to take any more (he thinks it doesnt agree with him or something) Is it worth running as he offered to give me them for free, or is it a waste?
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    AndroSeries v3 is here... just started a black friday sale on it
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    AndroSeries v3 is here... just started a black friday sale on it
    Which ends tonight at Midnight PST.
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    Hey, guys I'm new and was looking at the mass, lean and hard stack cycle. What do you think of that. I'm currently taking C-4 preworkout and Viridex XT test booster. Can I still take those with the cycle. Can you take mass and lean together or will they be working against each other, that's what I read on another site. I say to cycle lean first then cycle the mass. Any help, thanks.
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    Originally Posted by chuckparr24 View Post
    Hey, guys I'm new and was looking at the mass, lean and hard stack cycle. What do you think of that. I'm currently taking C-4 preworkout and Viridex XT test booster. Can I still take those with the cycle. Can you take mass and lean together or will they be working against each other, that's what I read on another site. I say to cycle lean first then cycle the mass. Any help, thanks.
    The new formula of lean should be a bit more compatible stacking wise, than the counter productive mentality that was seen with the last version. However, I do personally like the lean then bulk approach to products such as this.

    I wouldn't run a test booster on cycle though, it's effects will easily become overshadowed.
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    Lean vs Mass

    So do I understand you correctly, run the Lean cycle first then run the Mass, if so why is there a stack cycle with both offered on the site. Just seems like to me they would work against each other, HELP! Just trying to get ready for the summer and don't know what to take to help me advance. Also what is the difference between Mass and Bulk. When should I run the Hard. And how does your product differ from the Legal Steroids that are offered on the internet. After reading up on both it seem ya'll both offer the same results. How do I know which one to buy and which one will work.
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    So do I understand you correctly, run the Lean cycle first then run the Mass, if so why is there a stack cycle with both offered on the site. Just seems like to me they would work against each other, HELP! Just trying to get ready for the summer and don't know what to take to help me advance. Also what is the difference between Mass and Bulk. When should I run the Hard. And how does your product differ from the Legal Steroids that are offered on the internet. After reading up on both it seem ya'll both offer the same results. How do I know which one to buy and which one will work.
    Run DAA for a test booster, maybe add Triazole, and you'll see better results for a much lower cost Andro series is bunk, it's laughable how these guys don't even try to prove the product effective. Instead they just throw coupons out like candy hoping to catch a few extra sales.
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    Run DAA for a test booster, maybe add Triazole, and you'll see better results for a much lower cost Andro series is bunk, it's laughable how these guys don't even try to prove the product effective. Instead they just throw coupons out like candy hoping to catch a few extra sales.
    Agreed. And if Im not mistaken the androseries is steroidal? Which deems it against forum rules to discuss.
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    Originally Posted by chuckparr24 View Post
    So do I understand you correctly, run the Lean cycle first then run the Mass, if so why is there a stack cycle with both offered on the site. Just seems like to me they would work against each other, HELP! Just trying to get ready for the summer and don't know what to take to help me advance. Also what is the difference between Mass and Bulk. When should I run the Hard. And how does your product differ from the Legal Steroids that are offered on the internet. After reading up on both it seem ya'll both offer the same results. How do I know which one to buy and which one will work.
    You could stack them, I was just giving you one way to run them. They wouldn't be counter productive, you would just see more fat loss on Lean or Lean/Hard than you would on Lean/Mass. Mass/Lean would be more of a composition changer, mass gained while dropping some body fat.

    Hard can be combined with either.

    As for comparison to other products currently sold, our product is 100% DSHEA compliant, naturally occurring, and non toxic.

    Originally Posted by chimeranD View Post
    Run DAA for a test booster, maybe add Triazole, and you'll see better results for a much lower cost Andro series is bunk, it's laughable how these guys don't even try to prove the product effective. Instead they just throw coupons out like candy hoping to catch a few extra sales.
    What the hell are you talking about? There are logs on most of the popular message boards (not here for obvious reasons), we have guys on Mass who have put on 15lbs, you got guys doing this on DAA? or Triazole?

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    Agreed. And if Im not mistaken the androseries is steroidal? Which deems it against forum rules to discuss.
    The products are DSHEA compliant.

    You never did answer me previously on what your previous experience is? It seemed you were a bit judgmental on the products in terms of being a PH, and I'm assuming you don't have any experience in that realm?
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    Thanks for the infor HereToStudy. So how would you run it all 3 together or run AM & AH for a cycle and then run AL & AH for a cycle. If so how much time between them do I need and would I have to take a PCT between them.
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    I think we've all seen pictures of guys that ran those and they were nothing near impressive. There have also been users who have run cycles and logs and confirmed that it barely changed anything, your team is the only one with good things to say about the products.
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    Originally Posted by chuckparr24 View Post
    Thanks for the infor HereToStudy. So how would you run it all 3 together or run AM & AH for a cycle and then run AL & AH for a cycle. If so how much time between them do I need and would I have to take a PCT between them.
    I would do a AL & AH 4 and AM & AH as separate cycles, but in that order.

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    I think we've all seen pictures of guys that ran those and they were nothing near impressive. There have also been users who have run cycles and logs and confirmed that it barely changed anything, your team is the only one with good things to say about the products.
    This is simply untrue. There are no logs on BB for obvious reasons, but if you peek outside of the BB.com bubble, you will see we have had plenty of guys having their expectations met and/or exceeded.
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