MYTH. Don't listen to vaporizer or the other guy, yes your big and strong doesn't mean your smart. When on a consistent caloric deficit your body is not going to store fat, that being said if your cutting get all your nutrients and keep a caloric deficit.
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Thread: Peanut butter + Oatmeal = bad?
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06-04-2009, 05:43 PM #61
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06-04-2009, 05:56 PM #62
real men deadlift for the win. Roided guido model for the loss.
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06-04-2009, 10:12 PM #63
One quick retort before I exit this thread due to douchebaggery. If pro bodybuilders were to do this with success and that is what they recommend then that would be what worked... But the fact remains that they don't, so I don't see where the discrepancy comes from.
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06-05-2009, 03:59 AM #64
I cant believe people are actually arguing that 3 meals is just as good as 6-8. I eat 10 when bulking bc I am a true ecto. I made my best gains like this. Your metabolism can be compared to a fire. You feed it substantial amount of woods its gonna burn hot and fast, you throw in a few pieces ever hour yea its gonna be a fire but not much of one. Now a refeed or cheat day can be employed in this analogy as well when cutting. You practically starve the fire (your metabolism/body) but once a week you spark that "fire" up huge with a large amount of food. Thus your metabolic rate gets a jumpstart. Whoever thinks this is bogus obviously is no bodybuilder and has trouble chokind down meals because they are weak. Vaporize dont even bother arguing with them, they only use science in there favor when some douche bag does one "study"
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06-05-2009, 04:00 AM #65BIG COZ - ALL AMERICAN EFX BOARD REP
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06-05-2009, 04:05 AM #66
and p.s you guys are all jealous of vaporize but wont admit it. He is everything you wish you could be and more. haha I love the hatin going on. Yea he might have a little assistance but you guys could never reach his level.
p.s.s haha I am waiting for the comeback of "O you have a crush on him" or "ohhh you wanna **** him, ***" yea good comeback guys!BIG COZ - ALL AMERICAN EFX BOARD REP
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06-05-2009, 05:12 AM #67
Man, the nutrition forum is the worst real section on bb.com as far as the advice given and the quality of people posting in it.
What's sad about it is that a lot of kids trying to get into bodybuilding would read this forum and think that eating 3,000 calories of junk food in one meal a day is just as good as a clean, standard bodybuilding diet. All because a half a dozen skinny teenagers are ruining it in here. And, one guy comes in who actually knows something about diet, and they start mobbing him...
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06-05-2009, 08:32 AM #68Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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06-05-2009, 09:51 AM #69BIG COZ - ALL AMERICAN EFX BOARD REP
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06-05-2009, 11:35 AM #70
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I don't know what to think of the massive "Do as I say and not as I do" crowd on this forum.
I trust the science, but I'm having trouble mentally taking sides between those whose credentials are established in previous posts (the study quoting scientists) and those whose credentials are established in their avatars (the physique gurus).
It would be nice to have more forum contributors who combined both (like Layne Norton for example) for those truth seekers among us. We need more people to talk the talk and walk the walk. Study quoting scientists with awesome avatars.For I can do everything through Christ, who gives me STRENGTH (Philippians 4:13)
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06-05-2009, 11:42 AM #71
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06-05-2009, 12:05 PM #72
Peanutbutter + Oatmeal = Magically Delicious.
I like my food clean, and my women dirty.
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06-05-2009, 12:34 PM #73
Actually I appear to know more than you do considering the post I quoted of yours.
Muscle =/= knowledge of nutrition. You have muscle and yet your attempts at validating your nutritional protocol fail.
And please learn how to spell.
Are you saying you think that 5-7 meals has a greater thermic effect than the same amount of calories in less meals?
Most of your posts are excruciatingly inflammatory and rarely productive, in all honesty why are you here?Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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06-05-2009, 12:37 PM #74
Some people just don't get it. If you eat enough, and lift consistently and hard, you WILL GAIN. Regardless of your knowledge of science and studies, however, that doesn't mean that your way of thinking is correct. Does it work, yes. Is it the absolute best way, of course not.
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06-05-2009, 12:39 PM #75
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06-05-2009, 12:43 PM #76
I actually hope ur right. Then I cant stop eating so much, but until then I am gonna keep doing what "works" Ur 3 meals a day keeps u small hiding behind a computer while the rest of us make good use of our time and eat, and eat and eat. and by the way what was spelled wrong.
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06-05-2009, 12:44 PM #77
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06-05-2009, 12:46 PM #78Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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06-05-2009, 12:46 PM #79
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06-05-2009, 12:47 PM #80
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06-05-2009, 12:47 PM #81Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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06-05-2009, 12:48 PM #82Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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06-05-2009, 12:49 PM #83
and in fact I did some research. Ur point proves valid........in some studies. In others its grey. I dont understand why people argue things that work. I bet ur a democrat too mccarthy. I am sure u argue everything the gov't does. You complain and try to find reasoning behind why the way things are and how they have worked for so long should be changed. Yea i agree there is a lot of "broscience" (i hate that word ) in bodybuilding and I am one for debunking great myths but the facts are unless the whole eating more raises metbolism is a huge placebo I can count on 45 hands the amount of times I have seen these prove valid. I think its easier to gorge at one sitting if your hungry and then whole 4-6meals came into play because people were eating correct portions. As we all know Americans biggest problem is portion control. So I still say macro partioning and splitting ur meals up over a period of time is better. Is there a magical number? No probably not but I can bet a 3 square meal bb doesnt look half as good as 6-7 meal bodybuilder
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06-05-2009, 01:04 PM #85
Talk about incoherent again.
Eating more often does not have an increased TEF over eating less often, that is a fact. Portion control is another story, obviously, and is not the debate we're having here.
You then go on to claim that someone that eats more often will look better. Nice anecdote... which is absolutely meaningless.
And yes, I'm a democrat, and that has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion at all.
Because I enjoy it. However I am not one to strut that fact around. I'm not someone that wears tight shirts and shorts to show off, in fact I wear baggy clothes so I don't get attention from others. That's merely an example but I have no desire to post photos to have other males validate my life. No point IMO.Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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06-05-2009, 01:07 PM #86BIG COZ - ALL AMERICAN EFX BOARD REP
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06-05-2009, 01:09 PM #87Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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06-05-2009, 01:11 PM #88
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06-05-2009, 01:12 PM #89BIG COZ - ALL AMERICAN EFX BOARD REP
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06-05-2009, 01:13 PM #90Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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