Donald Trump’s New York Criminal Trial Begins Monday

[Stizzel]

Crime A is being charged as a felony, instead of a misdemeanor, because they said it was done to cover up crime B.

Crime B is federal, not state, and not in the DA's jurisdiction.

The feds investigated crime B and didn't being charges, because there was no evidence.

It's like trying to charge somebody with felony murder, without anybody having died.

He should have labeled it SUPER SECRET FRAUD PAYMENT TO SUBVERT DEMOCRACY so thess midwits would have a case

[gwg77]

CNN is melting down bigly right now. Cohen spent the whole day admitting to lies he's told during this trial

Good work libs you found another winner.....LOL

^Dassit.

CNN lib journalists calling out Michael Cohen for being a pathological liar during cross-examination




Watch clip:

https://twitter.com/jeffstorobinsky/...49755587789100

Political commentator Alyssa Farah Griffin said Thursday on CNN’s coverage of former President Donald Trump’s business record trial that witness Michael Cohen after the defense lawyer Todd Blanche’s cross-examination.

Anchor Jake Tapper said, “Michael Cohen says he never sought a job at the white house. Bryan Lanza here who worked on the 2016 campaign, says, that’s not true. He recalls Michael Cohen wanting to be White House council. We have some journalists on our panel here saying that’s not true. They were recalling Michael Cohen saying he was going to join the White House. He was very excited to do so.”

He asked, “Tell me, what do you think?”

Former Trump administration staffer Alyssa Farah Griffin said, “I was working for a number of Republican lawmakers at that time, several of whom would go into the administration, including Mick Mulvaney as OMB director, and it was widely known and believed. Now, Michael Cohen never told me firsthand, ‘I’m going into the White House, I want to.’ But it was widely discussed that he was angling for Attorney General or to be White House counsel. That’s, I mean, there’s dozens and dozens of people around Washington who could corroborate that. My jaw hit the floor when I heard him denying that.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024...ing-testimony/

[Fishman15]

CNN is melting down bigly right now. Cohen spent the whole day admitting to lies he's told during this trial

Good work libs you found another winner.....LOL

Pig put on lipstick. Pig still a pig. CNN in shock....lmao

[Weightaholic]

The payment wasn’t campaign funds and the nda can’t be proven to be campaign related… so what should trump have labeled the payment to his lawyer for the legal services he rendered in executing and paying the nda? If “legal expense” is fraud, what was it legally required to be labeled?

Ex gratia payment. If you really want it to be on the business' books.

[rampagefc77]

Ex gratia payment. If you really want it to be on the business' books.

So, even if that is preferred, is this the hill to die on to charge a former president? The flimsiest of novel legal theory months before an upcoming election when others have already declined to prosecute because there was nothing there?

Hell, most politicians have far more egregious issues. Clinton hid payments through her law firm under “legal expenses” which were used to pay foreign operatives for fake dirt in her opponent, which was leaked to the media and intel to sway the election. Pretty sure Clinton and the dnc paid a small fine.

[Weightaholic]

So, even if that is preferred, is this the hill to die on to charge a former president? The flimsiest of novel legal theory months before an upcoming election when others have already declined to prosecute because there was nothing there?

OK, sticking to the topic, yes, I have my doubts as to whether he'll be convicted, it all seems a bit nebulous to me, but simply coding them as Ex Gratia would have avoided all this. Do that, there's no fraud (Hi Michael, such a good guy, here's some bonus money), and as such can't be attached to campaign finance violations.

[rampagefc77]

OK, sticking to the topic, yes, I have my doubts as to whether he'll be convicted, it all seems a bit nebulous to me, but simply coding them as Ex Gratia would have avoided all this. Do that, there's no fraud (Hi Michael, such a good guy, here's some bonus money), and as such can't be attached to campaign finance violations.

How can it be a campaign finance violation when it wasn’t campaign funds nor an event that could only exist for the purpose of the campaign? Completely illogical.

On the tape they played, trump mentioned paying cash and cohen insisted that “he had it.” Seems like trump deferred in these cases to his lawyer, who legally should have known how to handle these situations. If there is an issue, it’s on Cohen, not trump. But there isn’t even an issue.

[Weightaholic]

How can it be a campaign finance violation when it wasn’t campaign funds nor an event that could only exist for the purpose of the campaign? Completely illogical.

On the tape they played, trump mentioned paying cash and cohen insisted that “he had it.” Seems like trump deferred in these cases to his lawyer, who legally should have known how to handle these situations. If there is an issue, it’s on Cohen, not trump. But there isn’t even an issue.

No, there obviously is an issue - they were coded as legal expenses, which they are not - it's the hook used to tie it all into campaign finance violations. I'll admit, I'm no expert on US campaign finance law, but like I said before, if it was a case of "it's simply not applicable", it's a slam dunk for the defense, so if it's not, then I have to think there's more nuance to the issue.

[rampagefc77]

No, there obviously is an issue - they were coded as legal expenses, which they are not - it's the hook used to tie it all into campaign finance violations. I'll admit, I'm no expert on US campaign finance law, but like I said before, if it was a case of "it's simply not applicable", it's a slam dunk for the defense, so if it's not, then I have to think there's more nuance to the issue.

The judge wouldn’t let the head of the fec testify that no campaign finance laws were broken. How’s that for prejudice?

Even a jury pool selected from over 90% democrats find trump guilty (hell, most likely have zero clue what the allegation even is, but are more than happy to find him guilty), it would easily be overturned on appeal. There have been so many missteps by the judge since the start. A reasonable judge would have tossed this out before it ever got to trial. The other cases are egregious in their own right, but this one far and away takes the cake.

Your blind faith that there must be something there is putting faith in a failed and weaponized judiciary. There is nothing there. It’s lawfare.

[Paul Kreul]

Anyone post that Bill Mahr interview with Stormy back in 2018 stating Trump did nothing wrong with her and it was completely CONSENSUAL,,was not coerced..


https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...39552539549765

[Stizzel]

Pig put on lipstick. Pig still a pig. CNN in shock....lmao

Fuking lol

[Stizzel]

No, there obviously is an issue - they were coded as legal expenses, which they are not - it's the hook used to tie it all into campaign finance violations. I'll admit, I'm no expert on US campaign finance law, but like I said before, if it was a case of "it's simply not applicable", it's a slam dunk for the defense, so if it's not, then I have to think there's more nuance to the issue.

As even libtard media is now admitting it would be a slam dunk for the defense if it was anyone other than trump. Judge would have tossed it immediately

[DanteEdmond]

No, there obviously is an issue - they were coded as legal expenses, which they are not - it's the hook used to tie it all into campaign finance violations. I'll admit, I'm no expert on US campaign finance law, but like I said before, if it was a case of "it's simply not applicable", it's a slam dunk for the defense, so if it's not, then I have to think there's more nuance to the issue.

Cohen yesterday said on the stand that the hush money agreement was a "perfectly legal contract"

https://nypost.com/2024/05/16/us-new...photos-more-2/

[bezarker]

[SaltyDog920]

Fuking lol

Waters looks like the younger version of Cohen.

[gwg77]

Watch:

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1792565983854387527

[SaltyDog920]

Watch:

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1792565983854387527

And you know lefties will be like "dRummphhh only hires the best!1!!" rather than objectively looking at all the facts surrounding this case.

Cohen is such a sleazy rat holy fook.

[NitrogenWidget]

CNN is melting down bigly right now. Cohen spent the whole day admitting to lies he's told during this trial

Good work libs you found another winner.....LOL

imagine if cohen was still working for trump and this was their plan all along?

[yabbayabba]

The p3do patrol doesn't seem to post here as much with the case coming apart as a sham.

[Retoaded]

So the star witness has now admitted he stole money from Trump, he lied to congress, and he lied during his testimony.

Trump directed him to pay cash and he didn't, and he was responsible for the payment.

LMFAO

[SaltyDog920]

So the star witness has now admitted he stole money from Trump, he lied to congress, and he lied during his testimony.

Trump directed him to pay cash and he didn't, and he was responsible for the payment.

LMFAO

Lefty commies will still convict unfortunately. Lefties are the true fascists.

[rampagefc77]

imagine if cohen was still working for trump and this was their plan all along?

The main issue with cohen is that the dems gave him by the balls. When mueller went after him they got him on tax violations related to another business venture. They threatened to loop in his wife and family if he didn’t plea. They got him to put the campaign finance bs into the plea as well. He’s pissed trump didn’t pardon him. And he’s still out on house arrest and they could lock him back up at any time. So he is a puppet for them.

[NitrogenWidget]

The main issue with cohen is that the dems gave him by the balls. When mueller went after him they got him on tax violations related to another business venture. They threatened to loop in his wife and family if he didn’t plea. They got him to put the campaign finance bs into the plea as well. He’s pissed trump didn’t pardon him. And he’s still out on house arrest and they could lock him back up at any time. So he is a puppet for them.

he is a poor puppet though.
he got destroyed on the stand.

this whole case is held together with bailing wire and chewing gum.
the case should of never made it to trial.

[miscinbro]

Stolen elections have consequences.

Seriously though, who would have thought 2am ballot drops that seem to just be enough to win wouldn't cause people to question highly political outcomes going forward?

Trump spend his entire campaign urging people to vote in person. Biden told them to vote however they wanted. Guess which get counted first? But noooooo the result wasn’t what you wanted to it all has to be some vast conspiracy.

[rampagefc77]

Trump spend his entire campaign urging people to vote in person. Biden told them to vote however they wanted. Guess which get counted first? But noooooo the result wasn’t what you wanted to it all has to be some vast conspiracy.

There were many issues with mail in votes, chain of custody, states breaking their own election laws, etc.


We should make Election Day a national holiday, make all voting in person except for rare exceptions, and require ID. No mass harvesting of ballots, no other nonsense. The results would be available the same day.

Right now we have a system where someone like trump needs to win by at least a 4-6% margin to exceed shenanigans that states can pull. And our elections are all close.

[miscinbro]

There were many issues with mail in votes, chain of custody, states breaking their own election laws, etc.


We should make Election Day a national holiday, make all voting in person except for rare exceptions, and require ID. No mass harvesting of ballots, no other nonsense. The results would be available the same day.

Right now we have a system where someone like trump needs to win by at least a 4-6% margin to exceed shenanigans that states can pull. And our elections are all close.

What we should really do it get rid of the electoral college and just make Federal elections a Federal thing with one set of rules rather than 50 different states all acting like chickens with their heads cut off.

[SaltyDog920]

Trump spend his entire campaign urging people to vote in person. Biden told them to vote however they wanted. Guess which get counted first? But noooooo the result wasn’t what you wanted to it all has to be some vast conspiracy.

Lionel Hutz has reappeared to claim once again that prosecutors NEVER bring cases to trial that aren't a 'slam dunk'.

[miscinbro]

Lionel Hutz has reappeared to claim once again that prosecutors NEVER bring cases to trial that aren't a 'slam dunk'.

Whatever happens you don’t know the evidence the DA has. None of do. What I DO know however is a DA doesn’t seek an indictment without a solid, solid case. When it’s the former President and the entire world is watching, you best believe they think they will win.

Typo aside I’m clearly going out of my way to say I don’t know what will happen with the case. But I do stand by my assertion that the DA didn’t just do it for the hell of it. Nobody wants a giant L on their scoresheet that, literally, the entire world is paying attention to.

I’ve been behind the bench enough times to know this is unpredictable. DAs don’t do this for the hell of it, and that’s actually a violation of their ethical oaths are attorneys.

[FlipBrah]

And you know lefties will be like "dRummphhh only hires the best!1!!" rather than objectively looking at all the facts surrounding this case.

Cohen is such a sleazy rat holy fook.

Where’s bezarker with his fb level “memes”

[BullittEV]

Typo aside I’m clearly going out of my way to say I don’t know what will happen with the case. But I do stand by my assertion that the DA didn’t just do it for the hell of it. Nobody wants a giant L on their scoresheet that, literally, the entire world is paying attention to.

I’ve been behind the bench enough times to know this is unpredictable. DAs don’t do this for the hell of it, and that’s actually a violation of their ethical oaths are attorneys.

You underestimate the derangement of leftism.