Nut Misc "Do You Even Lift?" Thread

[Dexter3000]

Eho triya arhidia... Nah, I'd be a genetic freak then.

I'm familiar with UD 2, but never applied it to myself - I had no reason to. I will around late summer. I may use it to get off fat more efficiently (Love you p-ratio genes). I lifted for a little over 2 years in HS, stopped, and I've only been at maintenance or surplus the past few weeks. It feels good gaining strength twice as fast. I didn't have the luxury of knowing the information I do now when I was younger. Up until April or May I thought Alan just talked a bunch of BS, hardcore former bro here. lol I'm using a highly modified version of SS since the base program seemed so pussyish. Doing back workout each lift day as well as arm and calf work. I would also like to get as lean as I can one day. How heavy do you think you'll be sitting at when you're done?

ETA: Post pics in the misc when you do, and wait for the accusations of dat der. 100% srs. They have such low expectations of this species.

No hate broseph but if SS is too pussyish then shouldn't you be lifting heavier weights? Unless you just want more volume..

[CTStyles31]

do i even lift?

[vitornoob]

I remember one link, where there was a comparison between Sumo and Tradi DL, explaining when one is better than the other according to body type, etc etc
Has anyone the link?

[greekmanman]

Eho triya arhidia... Nah, I'd be a genetic freak then.

I'm familiar with UD 2, but never applied it to myself - I had no reason to. I will around late summer. I may use it to get off fat more efficiently (Love you p-ratio genes). I lifted for a little over 2 years in HS, stopped, and I've only been at maintenance or surplus the past few weeks. It feels good gaining strength twice as fast. I didn't have the luxury of knowing the information I do now when I was younger. Up until April or May I thought Alan just talked a bunch of BS, hardcore former bro here. lol I'm using a highly modified version of SS since the base program seemed so pussyish. Doing back workout each lift day as well as arm and calf work. I would also like to get as lean as I can one day. How heavy do you think you'll be sitting at when you're done?

ETA: Post pics in the misc when you do, and wait for the accusations of dat der. 100% srs. They have such low expectations of this species.

lmao, 3 testicles.....3x the test?trolol

As to how heavy I will be, I have no idea based on my experiences thus far lol. I've been roughly maintaining 190 since back in May where I was much higer bf%. I imagine that I will slowly start to drop in weight as I reach a certain bf %. I'm guessing somewhere in the high 160s-170s? That would likely be near comp lvl bodyfat which I don't intend to reach. I'd be very happy with a ripped 175-180 or so.

And I seriously want to get lean asap so I can rep NBB trolol Those trolls/bros/haters are annoying considering all they do is rip on Ian's physique etc. I'll likely be making my own videos this coming summer as well so that should be interesting

[greekmanman]

I srsly wonder.

That's not bad. So at minimum 10-15 weeks of cutting for 1 lb a week? I remember you as Mr. Green Shirt. Is Paul going to make vids too or has he fulked? lol I don't doubt Ian. He doesn't look like he's carrying a high body fat. It's hard to tell with his loose shirts, but I wouldn't be surprised if he looks like you when he cuts down. I never understood the argument calling him fat. There's a lot of ****ing stupid haters out there that seem to forget you can't add pure muscle, not without candy, nommsayin? If I had to guess, I'd say he's around 15% just going by his face. Like I said, it's hard to tell. But from his posts on NBB's page he's rocking solid legs and probably a good back and chest. His earlier vids where he wears regular shirts show that he isn't fat. I figure they'll shut up in the end or bring up something inane; "Lui's bicep peak is bigger than yours, Ian McStruthers, you're a little shrimp." The hater circle is like homeostasis in that whatever he does, he'll still attract people who have some sick fascination with him.

Touche lol

Yea I agree when Ian cuts down he'll look good. And for anyone who knows who Lui Marco is; is his physique considered impressive after having lifted for 20 years?

[snrygo]

http://primallifter.com/comparing-su...nal-deadlifts/

beat me to it

eta: benched with the best form of my life yesterday (no flaring, good arch, good leg drive, tucked scapula, etc) and now my right frontal rotator cuff is killing me this morning, what gives?

[joelash302]

Wow. Greekman looks like what Shia TheBeef should look like.

[PBateman2]

And for anyone who knows who Lui Marco is; is his physique considered impressive after having lifted for 20 years?

Twenty years? What does he look like physique wise and I will tell you

[ErickStevens]

Lui Marco looks like refried dog shiit.

[phal]

Regardless of what someone does and doesn't look like I don't think we should really be physique bashing, but that's me.

[ErickStevens]

Regardless of what someone does and doesn't look like I don't think we should really be physique bashing, but that's me.

Well that's just like, your opinion man.

[JasonDB]

Twenty years? What does he look like physique wise and I will tell you

Well let's put it this way, as I know who luimarco is... greekmanman looks... approximately... 1728x better.

[ErickStevens]

You'd think someone with such a big mouth would look better, especially with 20 years of training experience.

[sawoobley]

Twenty years? What does he look like physique wise and I will tell you

http://www.luimarco.com/index.html

Not sure if he works his legs though. Can't find any pics. He looks fine. Not the biggest guy in the world though.

[PBateman2]

Well let's put it this way, as I know who luimarco is... greekmanman looks... approximately... 1728x better.

All good!

You'd think someone with such a big mouth would look better, especially with 20 years of training experience.

I hear ya! One of my biggest pet peeves.

http://www.luimarco.com/index.html

Not sure if he works his legs though. Can't find any pics. He looks fine. Not the biggest guy in the world though.

He's cut but not enough mass to go along with it - just from my view. I can't judge cause I don't know what his goals are but that is attainable in 2-3 years of consistent training. Ive seen it actually done with my own eyes with others in less time - 100% drug free.

It's like with that zyzz guy physique. LOL that people think they cannot attain that natty. Absolutely ridiculous. May take a little longer but definitely achievable. Standards are low for most.

[tswdan]

http://www.luimarco.com/index.html

Not sure if he works his legs though. Can't find any pics. He looks fine. Not the biggest guy in the world though.

Dude looks good because he's lean. I mean like the impressive thing is that he's skinny ripped, but I wouldn't even think the guy put 20 years into it. Maybe he's just satisfied with where he's been and doesn't feel like being more or improving on what he has. Amazingly (read sadly) enough there are some people like that out there.

Personally, I'm way more impressed with a physique like Dave Gulledge (even when he was at 320lbs) -- but that appreciation for his physique comes from me mirin' what he's accomplished in the gym and powerlifting too, not just from the way he looks.

[ErickStevens]

When PLers diet down they look so crazy...





This one is kind of cheating but whatever...

[JasonDB]

When PLers diet down they look so crazy...





This one is kind of cheating but whatever...

... and I still get kids at the gym who ask me "Why do you tell so many guys who just want to look jacked/good/ripped they need to do more heavy barbell work?"

[ErickStevens]

I'm jotting some stuff down for my return to more BB-centric training. I'm thinking about messing around with some high frequency training for my chest/shoulders. Anybody have experience with getting results by training a body part 3x per week?

[ko300zx]

When PLers diet down they look so crazy...

[psychodiver9]

... and I still get kids at the gym who ask me "Why do you tell so many guys who just want to look jacked/good/ripped they need to do more heavy barbell work?"

but what if you just want to get toned?

[joelash302]

Question as well - Anybody have any experience with digestive enzymes? I have started up a real bulk, been snacking like a fiend. During the quest back over 200 (maybe 210 this time?), let's just say that there is a very serious dispute going on between my mental desire and my intenstines regarding how this is going to happen, and everyone in the vicinity is hearing the reprocussions.

Is this just a result of jacking up the carbs? Would digestive enzymes help? I've heard a bit about them from Jamie Lewis but I usually want some follow up on his insanity.

[Lvisaa2]

I'm jotting some stuff down for my return to more BB-centric training. I'm thinking about messing around with some high frequency training for my chest/shoulders. Anybody have experience with getting results by training a body part 3x per week?

Solid surplus(holiday nomnoms) + high frequency and volume did wonders for me. It took its physical toll, but strength and physique responded well.

[psychodiver9]

I've taken acidophilous off and on. Not a tremendous difference to me but it's cheap. Give it a shot. Honestly I only use it because my wife likes it and its there

[taptomyarmbar]

I am after some advice please. I am struggling to increase weight on overhead bb press - feels like I could push more with my shoulders/tri's but my lower back starts to give out after 2-3 sets which means a drop in weight and prob not able to press as much on the first set because of this.

I think I have a pretty strong core and have no probs deadlifting or squatting over 1.5 x bw with good form.

What would you recommend for sorting out this weakness?

[snrygo]

I am after some advice please. I am struggling to increase weight on overhead bb press - feels like I could push more with my shoulders/tri's but my lower back starts to give out after 2-3 sets which means a drop in weight and prob not able to press as much on the first set because of this.

I think I have a pretty strong core and have no probs deadlifting or squatting over 1.5 x bw with good form.

What would you recommend for sorting out this weakness?

Strengthen your core. And FYI, 1.5 BW is not terribly strong

[snrygo]

I benched yesterday and my form was spot on. This morning, my right frontal rotator cuff is killing me. Even pushing a soap dispenser hurts. Wtf?

[joelash302]

I am after some advice please. I am struggling to increase weight on overhead bb press - feels like I could push more with my shoulders/tri's but my lower back starts to give out after 2-3 sets which means a drop in weight and prob not able to press as much on the first set because of this.

I think I have a pretty strong core and have no probs deadlifting or squatting over 1.5 x bw with good form.

What would you recommend for sorting out this weakness?

Vids. Might not be your lower back giving out. Might be you arching like hell to hit the weight, which means your shoulders are just weak.

[taptomyarmbar]

Strengthen your core. And FYI, 1.5 BW is not terribly strong

Thanks.

I am not claiming to be mr olympia - but 1.5 x bw is pretty good from where I was 6 months ago. :-)

[JasonDB]

I benched yesterday and my form was spot on. This morning, my right frontal rotator cuff is killing me. Even pushing a soap dispenser hurts. Wtf?

Maybe your form wasn't as spot on as you think. Do you do anything to strengthen rotators? Do you do face pulls? How tight is your elbow tuck and where on your chest do you touch the bar when you bench?

Also failing the above problems, it could be another lift... do you flare your elbows on any of your tricep work or other presses? Another reason I hate ez-curl bars.

I am after some advice please. I am struggling to increase weight on overhead bb press - feels like I could push more with my shoulders/tri's but my lower back starts to give out after 2-3 sets which means a drop in weight and prob not able to press as much on the first set because of this.

I think I have a pretty strong core and have no probs deadlifting or squatting over 1.5 x bw with good form.

What would you recommend for sorting out this weakness?

Strengthen your core... a 225 squat isn't an indication of a strong core yet. Are you rounding your lower back or do you keep a curve in it to give proper support like you would on a squat or deadlift?