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[Farley1324]

Excess fat helps you bench and squat more.

I do believe excess fat shortens the bench ROM, and if you are talking fat you can get some squat help from your pot belly running into your thighs at the bottom. Of course, it also seems that a lot of fatties just don't squat as deep and that muddies the waters.

[mab23]

someone aware me on 4G and his modmanship!

and Manly just sent me a message on ******** saying **** you!

[-Lucifer]

@Mabby
- 4G trolled ForumAdmin along with another mod
- FA's PM inbox got full and that made him mad
- 4G demodded and the other mod permabanned

...it also seems that a lot of fatties just don't squat as deep and that muddies the waters.

Hey! I squat to depth!

Yeah, I am aware of their bellies helping them out of the hole. I sent LIME a PM so he can come in here and tell us why benching becomes easier for fat people. I recon it's because of better leverages.

[Farley1324]

Hey! I squat to depth!

Yeah, I am aware of their bellies helping them out of the hole. I sent LIME a PM so he can come in here and tell us why benching becomes easier for fat people. I recon it's because of better leverages.

I think it's more ROM than leverages, although I have seen the leverages argument made...personally, IIRC, I decided that having more muscle is what really gave you a leverage advantage, more fat not as much (srs). Something about most of the excess fat being subcutaneous, thereby not really changing the angle at which the muscle acted across the joint the way having larger muscles does

[im2manly]

someone aware me on 4G and his modmanship!

and Manly just sent me a message on ******** saying **** you!

why you are cool bro. consider that the last pm I send you. And you want the 411 on 4Gs modship? I am going to be a new mod and you will be banned.

Hey! I squat to depth!

Yeah, I am aware of their bellies helping them out of the hole. I sent LIME a PM so he can come in here and tell us why benching becomes easier for fat people. I recon it's because of better leverages.

No you don't squat to depth you are too fat (srs).

#EDIT: for the last time, I only increased my squat and deadlift when I cut, the only thing that my lower is my bench.

[DanielBeauchamp]

thank you being fat hurts, doesn't help you. Every time I lost weight I lifted more in squat and DL (srs).

Yep.

Strong changing of the topic/avoidance.

Let me know when your push press PR approaches my strict press PR.


A 365 lb squat single isn't terribly heavy.

That's why I doubled it.

Let me know when your deadlift max approaches my warm up sets.

[-Lucifer]

I think it's more ROM than leverages, although I have seen the leverages argument made...personally, IIRC, I decided that having more muscle is what really gave you a leverage advantage, more fat not as much (srs). Something about most of the excess fat being subcutaneous, thereby not really changing the angle at which the muscle acted across the joint.

Okay, when you get under the bar and get it on your rear delts, don't you feel like the bar is crushing you? That's what I meant would be harder for a smaller person like Daniel. A fat guy's torso would be like a pyramid, easily stabilizing the load.

[mab23]

@Mabby
- 4G trolled ForumAdmin along with another mod
- FA's PM inbox got full and that made him mad
- 4G demodded and the other mod permabanned



Hey! I squat to depth!

Yeah, I am aware of their bellies helping them out of the hole. I sent LIME a PM so he can come in here and tell us why benching becomes easier for fat people. I recon it's because of better leverages.

Thanks Lu!

why you are cool bro. consider that the last pm I send you. And you want the 411 on 4Gs modship? I am going to be a new mod and you will be banned.



No you don't squat to depth you are too fat (srs).

#EDIT: for the last time, I only increased my squat and deadlift when I cut, the only thing that my lower is my bench.

Uh oh Manly a Mod thats just what we need - what will you ban me on - being to mabulous!

[im2manly]

Thanks Lu!



Uh oh Manly a Mod thats just what we need - what will you ban me on - being to mabulous!

lol like I need a reason, I'll ban you just b/c I am bored.

[-Lucifer]

WTF is this? A 33 year old man wants to know how to target a portion of the glutes.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=147368583

[DanielBeauchamp]

Okay, when you get under the bar and get it on your rear delts, don't you feel like the bar is crushing you? That's what I meant would be harder for a smaller person like Daniel. A fat guy's torso would be like a pyramid, easily stabilizing the load.

I've been under 565 multiple times for quarter-squats from the rack, so it's more about overall leg strength for me. My back is by far my strongest aspect.

[Farley1324]

That's why I doubled it.

Let me know when your deadlift max approaches my warm up sets.

A 365 lb squat double isn't terribly heavy.

I'll let you know when I decide to actually train or care about the deadlift.

Okay, when you get under the bar and get it on your rear delts, don't you feel like the bar is crushing you? That's what I meant would be harder for a smaller person like Daniel. A fat guy's torso would be like a pyramid, easily stabilizing the load.

I sure used to. When I first ran SS 300 pounds felt like death, and the first time I put ~365 lbs on my back it felt like a fuking dump truck that was going to staple me into the ground. Then I got stronger.

[im2manly]

A 365 lb squat double isn't terribly heavy.

I'll let you know when I decide to actually train or care about the deadlift.




I sure used to. When I first ran SS 300 pounds felt like death, and the first time I put ~365 lbs on my back it felt like a fuking dump truck that was going to staple me into the ground. Then I got stronger.

if you'd stop being a pussy, you'd have the best DL in here.

[-Lucifer]

My back is by far my strongest aspect.

Yeah, I've noticed that about you and your sister. The Brochamps have strong, thick backs.

So, what would you say helped your back strength the most? Power cleans? Rows?

[Farley1324]

if you'd stop being a pussy, you'd have the best DL in here.

Do I need to bring out your quotes about never deadlifting again because, surprise surprise, it resulted in a back injury? It is so frequently the deads that are the culprit. Bill Starr was onto something.

[mab23]

if you'd stop being a pussy, you'd have the best DL in here.

what if I stopped being a pussy - what would I have!

[im2manly]

Do I need to bring out your quotes about never deadlifting again because, surprise surprise, it resulted in a back injury?

yea but unlike you I didn't pussy out b/c I was met with adversity. I just recently pulled 545 after failing to move it last week. (srs)

[-Lucifer]

Do I need to bring out your quotes about never deadlifting again because, surprise surprise, it resulted in a back injury?

Look at his most recent workout. It was just him being a dumbass.

[Farley1324]

what if I stopped being a pussy - what would I have!

A time in your sig for a full iron man?

[im2manly]

Yeah, I've noticed that about you and your sister. The Brochamps have strong, thick backs.

So, what would you say helped your back strength the most? Power cleans? Rows?

he is short, its purely genetic (srs). Just like, for w/e reason, I am gifted w/ pressing even though I have a long reach.

[Farley1324]

yea but unlike you I didn't pussy out b/c I was met with adversity. I just recently pulled 545 after failing to move it last week. (srs)

What adversity were you met with, Mr Manly? You strain something and then bitch about it irritating you for a few weeks?

[im2manly]

What adversity were you met with, Mr Manly? You strain something and then bitch about it irritating you for a few weeks?

I slipped a disk and within weeks I was back at deadlifting. Like a man. That's the ****ing problem w/ the south, they never teach you how to work thorugh shiit. Here in the north, ppl constantly give you **** so you are forced to grow balls. So you never stop, never ****ing stop. Which is why the east is #1 and not the sout.

[Farley1324]

I slipped a disk and within weeks I was back at deadlifting. Like a man. That's the ****ing problem w/ the south, they never teach you how to work thorugh shiit. Here in the north, ppl constantly give you **** so you are forced to grow balls. So you never stop, never ****ing stop. Which is why the east is #1 and not the sout.

I didn't realize you had an MRI. What else did it say?

Or are you just being a pussy ******* claiming you "slipped a disc" because ZOMG your back hurt for a couple weeks?

[-Lucifer]

he is short, its purely genetic (srs).

It could also be that he and his sister have read a lot of old-school articles. They talk a lot about strengthening the back. I remember reading about this big chap who'd train his back everyday, doing a movement similar to the rack pull.

[im2manly]

I didn't realize you had an MRI. What else did it say?

Or are you just being a pussy ******* claiming you "slipped a disc" because ZOMG your back hurt for a couple weeks?

Do you know what is the difference btw me and you Farley? You spend all day saying why you can't do something and why you won't do it.

[mab23]

What adversity were you met with, Mr Manly? You strain something and then bitch about it irritating you for a few weeks?

hahahahahhaha

A time in your sig for a full iron man?

hahahah.................you're right!

[Farley1324]

Do you know what is the difference btw me and you Farley? You spend all day saying why you can't do something and why you won't do it.

Translation: Your tweaked a muscle in your back and were such a raging pussy about it that you now claim to have "slipped a disc" because you think it covers up your being a pussy about it.

[DanielBeauchamp]

Yeah, I've noticed that about you and your sister. The Brochamps have strong, thick backs.

So, what would you say helped your back strength the most? Power cleans? Rows?

Frequent and heavy deadlifts, rows, heavy shrugs, and weighted pull-ups.

he is short, its purely genetic (srs). Just like, for w/e reason, I am gifted w/ pressing even though I have a long reach.

I do have a naturally strong back, but you have to train hard for overall strength as well.

[im2manly]

Translation: Your tweaked a muscle in your back and were such a raging pussy about it that you now claim to have "slipped a disc" because you think it covers up your being a pussy about it.

Farley you are 28 and have a back problem... please see zorans sig as it applies to you.

[DanielBeauchamp]

It could also be that he and his sister have read a lot of old-school articles. They talk a lot about strengthening the back. I remember reading about this big chap who'd train his back everyday, doing a movement similar to the rack pull.

Possibly Bob Peoples?

His routine was to train 4x per week with 5x5 on squats and overhead presses, and max out on the deadlift each session. First man to pull 700+ at 181.