Old Man - Keepin' it going

[jonnyboy44]

Hi larry busy time trying to keep up with everyone. Working hard and heavy after your deload.

[ljimd]

Hi larry busy time trying to keep up with everyone. Working hard and heavy after your deload.

Thanx jonny. I've some catching up to do also.




Monday Bwt 167.0


Squats
95x5
115x5
140x5
160x5
185x5

Bench press
95x5
115x5
140x5
160x5
180x5

Bent over row
75x5
115x5
125x5
135x5
150x5

Decent w/o. Kept to the basics
and worked on form.

[doughnutgut]

Nice work Larry. 5x5 looking pretty good my man.

Also.
165.6 on the 4th
167 Today.

1.4 pounds over 17 days is pretty bloody consistent dude.

[ljimd]

Nice work Larry. 5x5 looking pretty good my man.

Also.
165.6 on the 4th
167 Today.

1.4 pounds over 17 days is pretty bloody consistent dude.

Thanx Leigh. Just keepin' it simple for a while. Really trying to eat more (wisely). Been lean so long, it a slow slog. Sounds funny to think of it. Back in my 30's,40's and 50's I could carry 185/190 - no problem.


Wednesday Bwt 166.6


Squats
105x5
120x5
140x5
140x5

Incline bb bench
115x5
125x5
145x5
165x5

Deads
150x5
180x5
205x5
235x5

Chins
Bwtx8

That's it for today.

[Flounderbout]

Thanx Leigh. Just keepin' it simple for a while. Really trying to eat more (wisely). Been lean so long, it a slow slog.

Still fiercely lean in my book. And strong too - some big numbers and volume there... GDJ...

[HoustonTXMuscle]

.... Sounds funny to think of it. Back in my 30's,40's and 50's I could carry 185/190 - no problem.

Won't disagree with this; something that the younger guys probably can't even comprehend.

GJ on the last two workouts. Benches in both look strong.

[fittofattofit]

Thanx Leigh. Just keepin' it simple for a while. Really trying to eat more (wisely). Been lean so long, it a slow slog. Sounds funny to think of it. Back in my 30's,40's and 50's I could carry 185/190 - no problem.


Wednesday Bwt 166.6

It must have taken a big psychological reset to go from 190 to carrying 25lbs less. I can't seem to regain 10lbs mass that I've lost over the last 3 years and it's playing with my mind. Regardless of being lighter Larry you are still carrying good quality mass while lean and looking great and your lifts are looking really good. You must have been a beast at 190 ... any pics from then? Do you have a target for this bulk? (timeline and weight gain)

[ljimd]

It must have taken a big psychological reset to go from 190 to carrying 25lbs less. I can't seem to regain 10lbs mass that I've lost over the last 3 years and it's playing with my mind. Regardless of being lighter Larry you are still carrying good quality mass while lean and looking great and your lifts are looking really good. You must have been a beast at 190 ... any pics from then? Do you have a target for this bulk? (timeline and weight gain)

I have been lighter/leaner before in the late 80's early 90's (155/160) when I competed in the old ANBC. Went through a few bulking/cutting cycles then, just couldn't seem to hold the mass for the stage. Then, basically trained for maintenance for 15 years. In 2008, the year before retiring,got serious again.

2008 - 190# bulked


1989 - 153# ANBC Pittsburg 1989


2011 - 153# one wk b4 last comp


2013 - Aug 163#


So, you see my dilemma. I can add mass(or used to), just have a hard time keeping it when getting stage ready. Believe me, if I could figure it out, I would be bulking my ass off.

Where am I going from here? Don't really know. Just keep training and trying things I suppose.

- End of whine -

[ArchAngel'73]

I would think at this stage of the game you would just train because you like to and not for judges nor anyone else.
Am I right or off with this one?
Do you feel good @ 166?

[ljimd]

I would think at this stage of the game you would just train because you like to and not for judges nor anyone else.
Am I right or off with this one?

You would think so at my age. I guess I'm a slave to my competitive spirit.
In my teens and 20's I did Oly and PL. Thinking about putting them on the
bucket list. How crazy is that?

Once truly smitten by the iron - turning back is not an option.

Do you feel good @ 166?

Feel really good in the 160/170 range body comp wise, but weak as little girl.

[fittofattofit]

You looked great in all of those pics Larry .. you carried plenty of mass at 190 and your arms were massive. Were you a lot stronger at that weight?
It's also fascinating to think that you competed at the same weight and with the same physique/condition in 1989 as in 2011
Still looking big and lean in that pic this year at 163. I can understand how BB and the need to cut hard would sap the enthusiasm, but Powerlifting and competing as a 'master' now that sounds like fun

[jonnyboy44]

QUOTE=ljimd;1152523753]
Wednesday Bwt 166.6
Squats
105x5
120x5
140x5
140x5

Incline bb bench
115x5
125x5
145x5
165x5

Deads
150x5
180x5
205x5
235x5

Chins
Bwtx8
That's it for today.[/QUOTE]

Just a quick session doing the big 3 Good job
Did Incline BB Bench myself yesterday for the first time in ages,
Loking solid in the pics

[ljimd]

You looked great in all of those pics Larry .. you carried plenty of mass at 190 and your arms were massive. Were you a lot stronger at that weight?

Rough guess, down about 20% from 50-60 yo and maybe 30% from 40's. Hoping to slow the rate of decline here lately.

It's also fascinating to think that you competed at the same weight and with the same physique/condition in 1989 as in 2011

Don't know whether to be happy that I could get back to where I was or terribly disappointed that I added so very little (none) mass over that period. Ahhhh......life goes on.

Still looking big and lean in that pic this year at 163. I can understand how BB and the need to cut hard would sap the enthusiasm, but Powerlifting and competing as a 'master' now that sounds like fun

Thanks Andrew. I'm at a crossroad right now. I'll just keep training hard and see what happens.

QUOTE=ljimd;1152523753]
Wednesday Bwt 166.6
Squats
105x5
120x5
140x5
140x5

Incline bb bench
115x5
125x5
145x5
165x5

Deads
150x5
180x5
205x5
235x5

Chins
Bwtx8
That's it for today.

Just a quick session doing the big 3 Good job
Did Incline BB Bench myself yesterday for the first time in ages,
Loking solid in the pics[/QUOTE]

Thanks jonny. I really like inclines too. Way more joint friendly than flat bench for me.


Thursday Bwt 166.6

Arms/abs

Wall curls
82.5x5,5,5,5,5

E-z bar skullz
97.5x5,5,5,5,5

Rope ab krunch
55x15,15,15,15,15


Quick, 40 min. Good pump.

[doughnutgut]

Brought this up to quote Larry.

You would think so at my age. I guess I'm a slave to my competitive spirit.
In my teens and 20's I did Oly and PL. Thinking about putting them on the
bucket list. How crazy is that?

Once truly smitten by the iron - turning back is not an option.

Feel really good in the 160/170 range body comp wise, but weak as little girl.

This ^^^^^ right here is pure raw dedication and love of the iron.

Larry, all your life you have looked like a million dollars. You still do and at 66 years young the body you hike around with you puts men 20-30-40 years your junior to complete and utter shame.

I am surprised you ever wear trousers or a top when going out with that physique man.

As for you feeling weak like a little girl. Nope, not having any of it big guy. You been down the road, wore the Tshirt and are still plugging away like a Boss.

I got respect coming out of my ears for this kind of chit. srs..

[highiso]

I have been lighter/leaner before in the late 80's early 90's (155/160) when I competed in the old ANBC. Went through a few bulking/cutting cycles then, just couldn't seem to hold the mass for the stage. Then, basically trained for maintenance for 15 years. In 2008, the year before retiring,got serious again.

2008 - 190# bulked


1989 - 153# ANBC Pittsburg 1989


2011 - 153# one wk b4 last comp


2013 - Aug 163#


So, you see my dilemma. I can add mass(or used to), just have a hard time keeping it when getting stage ready. Believe me, if I could figure it out, I would be bulking my ass off.

Where am I going from here? Don't really know. Just keep training and trying things I suppose.

- End of whine -

This is awesome. I love your dedication and hope I can be healthy enough at your age to continue to do what I do. I can relate to your dilemma on adding size and keeping it when you return to getting lean. I think for myself it's already pretty much impossible at the age of 41 to bulk a sh!t ton and then actually keep any LBM when I cut back down. I just don't have the genetics to be BIG & LEAN, but I will still give it my all to add 1 or 2 lbs. LBM a year if that's even possible anymore.

[Bo_Flecks]

Where am I going from here? Don't really know. Just keep training and trying things I suppose.

I think you've asked the million dollar question, here. And I also think you've answered it with the appropriate response. With all of the things I am trying (doing) to prepare for the 2014 contest season, I have a real fear that I will step on stage at pretty much the same size as I did last year...

[postman123]

Love the dedication you've shown over the years and the motivation you continue to provide for me and countless others.

[ljimd]

Sorry for the late replies gentlemen. Some unforseen
business popped up I had to take of kept me out of
the gym and away from the net for a couple days.

Brought this up to quote Larry.

This ^^^^^ right here is pure raw dedication and love of the iron.

Larry, all your life you have looked like a million dollars. You still do and at 66 years young the body you hike around with you puts men 20-30-40 years your junior to complete and utter shame.

I am surprised you ever wear trousers or a top when going out with that physique man.

As for you feeling weak like a little girl. Nope, not having any of it big guy. You been down the road, wore the Tshirt and are still plugging away like a Boss.

I got respect coming out of my ears for this kind of chit. srs..

Appreciate your kind words Leigh.

It would be easy to crank it down and live peacefully
with "back in the day" memories of big lifts, big
arms and a bullet proof body, free aches and pains.

Why continue? I'm not really sure other than the
need to see what I can do, with what I have (left).
I suppose the real answer is - I'm addicted.

Sometimes I wish I was a newb with an exciting trans-
formation in my future and sometimes I try to fool myself
into believing just that. Even so it has been fun.

Nowadays, a PR form me is (Post Retirement).
And that's OK. I get most of my motivation these days
watching young/er fellas like yourself climb the iron
mountain. Also, there is hardly a day that goes by that
I don't learn something new in this game.

Sorry to get windy here. Thanks again.

This is awesome. I love your dedication and hope I can be healthy enough at your age to continue to do what I do. I can relate to your dilemma on adding size and keeping it when you return to getting lean. I think for myself it's already pretty much impossible at the age of 41 to bulk a sh!t ton and then actually keep any LBM when I cut back down. I just don't have the genetics to be BIG & LEAN, but I will still give it my all to add 1 or 2 lbs. LBM a year if that's even possible anymore.

Thanks Gary.

I think you have set the stage for years of accomplish-
ments in the iron game. Your diet and strength gains
(awesome dead lift) are to be envied and given you a
very lean muscular physique.

Hopefully your attempts to add LBM will yield fruit,
but even though you may think you have reached your limit,
don't let up - your physique will mature and become
more refined. Not such a bad thing on top of what
you have now. One more piece in the puzzle.

[fittofattofit]

It would be easy to crank it down and live peacefully
with "back in the day" memories of big lifts, big
arms and a bullet proof body, free aches and pains.

Why continue? I'm not really sure other than the
need to see what I can do, with what I have (left).
I suppose the real answer is - I'm addicted.

Nowadays, a PR form me is (Post Retirement).

Except that you've still got a better physique than most guys 40 years younger and it's a bit like keeping a classic car on the road ... it takes more time and effort each year but you can still stand proud against the youngsters

[ljimd]

I think you've asked the million dollar question, here. And I also think you've answered it with the appropriate response. With all of the things I am trying (doing) to prepare for the 2014 contest season, I have a real fear that I will step on stage at pretty much the same size as I did last year...

^^^^ pretty much a recurring nightmare for me.

Love the dedication you've shown over the years and the motivation you continue to provide for me and countless others.

Thanks for your kind words, I'm very happy to help inspire even one person.

Except that you've still got a better physique than most guys 40 years younger and it's a bit like keeping a classic car on the road ... it takes more time and effort each year but you can still stand proud against the youngsters

^^^^^ isn't that the truth. Thanks Andrew.

Trying to keep pace guys like you keep me hammering
at it.



Monday Bwt 167.8

Squats
95x5
115x5
140x5
165x5
190x5

Bench press
95x5
115x5
140x4
165x5
185x5

Chest supported row
115x5
135x5
145x5
155x5
165x5

E-z bar skullz
100x5,5,5,5,5


Abandoned the bent over rows and went back
to chest supported. Bor's always leave me with
an achy low back.

Worked on keeping elbows in on my bench reps.
Used a pause on all reps. Felt good.

Next few weeks will be a goofy schedule for
me - Mon, Tues and Thurs. Travelling and
medical issues need to be taken care of.

Opening up my diet has added a few pounds.
Feels good strengthwise.

[HoustonTXMuscle]

...
It would be easy to crank it down and live peacefully
with "back in the day" memories of big lifts, big
arms and a bullet proof body, free aches and pains.

Why continue? I'm not really sure other than the
need to see what I can do, with what I have (left).
I suppose the real answer is - I'm addicted.

Sometimes I wish I was a newb with an exciting trans-
formation in my future and sometimes I try to fool myself
into believing just that. Even so it has been fun.

Nowadays, a PR form me is (Post Retirement).
And that's OK. I get most of my motivation these days
watching young/er fellas like yourself climb the iron
mountain. Also, there is hardly a day that goes by that
I don't learn something new in this game....

It's so easy to identify with every thing that you said, Larry. Especially the part about being addicted plus wishing that there was an exciting transformation ahead. Likelihood of that happening in my case is pretty close to zilch. Also share the same nightmare that you and Steve have knowing that bulking for next few months is probably going to result in my looking even worse in 2014.

[fittofattofit]

Monday Bwt 167.8

Squats
95x5
115x5
140x5
165x5
190x5

Bench press
95x5
115x5
140x4
165x5
185x5

Chest supported row
115x5
135x5
145x5
155x5
165x5

E-z bar skullz
100x5,5,5,5,5


Abandoned the bent over rows and went back
to chest supported. Bor's always leave me with
an achy low back.

Worked on keeping elbows in on my bench reps.
Used a pause on all reps. Felt good.

Next few weeks will be a goofy schedule for
me - Mon, Tues and Thurs. Travelling and
medical issues need to be taken care of.

Opening up my diet has added a few pounds.
Feels good strengthwise.

You're still steadily adding weight so the 'bulk' looks like it's going well ... maybe you've broken through that barrier. Would you think about keeping this bulk going to, say 175 over your winter and seeing what happens? Lifts are going well: squats and bench are looking excellent. I reckon if you stick with the BO rows then you'll see that lower back strengthen soon enough ... still very strong with the chest supported rows though.

[doughnutgut]

Great numbers and volume there as usual Big L.

Nice work.

[ljimd]

You're still steadily adding weight so the 'bulk' looks like it's going well ... maybe you've broken through that barrier. Would you think about keeping this bulk going to, say 175 over your winter and seeing what happens? Lifts are going well: squats and bench are looking excellent. I reckon if you stick with the BO rows then you'll see that lower back strengthen soon enough ... still very strong with the chest supported rows though.

Strongly considering the 170++ idea just to see where it goes. The one thing I've noticed the most is I'm not dinging myself up as much after adding few extra pounds. Don't know of any scientific reason for that or whether it's head trick.

BOR's have been a bugaboo for me forever, IDK, mental block probably.

Great numbers and volume there as usual Big L.

Nice work.

Thanx Leigh. I'll heading off for my nap here shortly




Tuesday Bwt 166.8

Squats
115x5
125x5
140x5
140x5

Incline bb bench press
115x5
130x5
150x5
170x5

Deadz
150x5
180x5
215x5
245x5

E-z bar wall curls
85x5,5,5,5,5

Light day on squats. Good thing, second squat
day in a row.

Last set of deads had the old man sucking some air.
Complete reset on each rep. Set seemed to last
forever.

Last set of wall curls was all I had left.

Day off tomorrow.

[Flounderbout]

Last set of deads had the old man sucking some air.
Complete reset on each rep. Set seemed to last
forever.

I know those feelz! Every set for me this morning was followed by a "surely that had to be the last set?!" And the same with every rep...
Solid volume with those squats and deads with IBB on top, never mind the wall curls!

[fittofattofit]

Strongly considering the 170++ idea just to see where it goes. The one thing I've noticed the most is I'm not dinging myself up as much after adding few extra pounds. Don't know of any scientific reason for that or whether it's head trick.

I always feel that my knees are better (as in less painful) when I'm carrying more weight, although I always feel much less CV fit.
The Broscience is that the extra fat cushions the joints. The extra fat in muscles, tendons and bursae probably does help to cushion some exercises. The other thing is that a certain level of adipose tissue is required for the creation of Oestrogen band the maintenance of normal hormonal levels
If you decide to go to 170+++ then I'll be keen to see whet changes you notice

Good work on the incline benching and it;s good to see you doing the deadlifts Larry.

[doughnutgut]

Huge work there Larry.

Last set of deads had the old man sucking some air.
Complete reset on each rep. Set seemed to last
forever.

Always them sets we hate seem to last forever.

Good choice on the reset. As you are well aware they take every ounce out of you. Bloody things.

[ljimd]

Huge work there Larry.



Always them sets we hate seem to last forever.

Good choice on the reset. As you are well aware they take every ounce out of you. Bloody things.

Thanks Leigh. Even though I don't pull a lot of weight, they still get my attention.

[ljimd]

Have added about 5# in the last couple of months. Thought I would take a few update pics.
Kinda happy with everything but the soft gut.

[Jtbny]

Pfft soft gut. Larry you look awesome! I would love to see what 170+ would bring. Either way I guarantee no one every asks you "do you even lift?".