Time To Get Dirty With EPIDROL!!

[dirtydean12]

where are some of these reviews for this product?

search for reviews of this as well as epistane and havoc as they're all the same compound

[Apollo 13]

search for reviews of this as well as epistane and havoc as they're all the same compound

well I know there the same compound. I wanted to see reviews on Epidrol to see the kind of results ppl are getting from this compared to the others. You do know there are companies out their that don't follow label claims.

[SouthernRebel]

And I bet you wern't gaining any muscle before you got on Epidrol were you?

It's not a miracle fix, if your diet and workout aren't giving you results by themselves adding a steroid won't help much.

allright jackass, I wasn't discredditing it I just said it didn't work for me, but as for my diet goes, Im on the Gerard Dante 45/35/20 split I eat all good carbs with 3 protein shakes a day, I also go through 4 cans of tuna a day and through a case of eggs every two days, I didn't think it was going to be a MIRACLE FIX, I just wanted to get rid of my gyno a little bit. But I did max on bench today and it its up from 275 to 300 in 3 weeks. As far as my workout regiment goes, I consider myself to workout pretty hard. I run a mile for warmup, lift weight for a hour or until I run out of **** to do. I only have a thumb on one hand so I can't do every excercise, but I get what I need done.

[SouthernRebel]

How much have you been eating? What kinda routine? How much cardio? Ive been thinking about epidrol so I'd like to know.

I eat about 2500 calories a day, I'm trying to loose fat right now, For cardio I run a mile pre and after workout. I'm not saying it doesn't work, just didn't work for me, But then again anything I take I have to double or triple the dosage so that it works on me. I took 150mg of winny a day for 4 weeks and then quit because it wasn't working.

[qweewq12]

lol...at jackass...

[dirtydean12]

DAY 4
Off

DAY 5
LEGS

• squats: 225x10, 245x10, 275x8, 295x4
• lying leg curls: 90x12, 100x10, 110x8
• seated calf raise: 90x12, 100x10, 110x8
• leg press: 270x12, 360x10, 450x8
• seated leg curl: 105x12, 120x10, 135x8
• calf raise on leg press: 180x12,12
• leg extensions(2 sec hold): 120x12--105x10--90x8, 90x10,8

Had a really good sense of endurance and mind muscle connection, felt good and strong on my squats, hopefully i'll be repping 315 soon...

[Dalamara]

I'm about 3 weeks in taking 30mg a day since day one and I haven't gained a pound

I eat about 2500 calories a day, I'm trying to loose fat right now, For cardio I run a mile pre and after workout. I'm not saying it doesn't work, just didn't work for me, But then again anything I take I have to double or triple the dosage so that it works on me. I took 150mg of winny a day for 4 weeks and then quit because it wasn't working.

Gee.

You complain about not gaining a pound, yet you're eating 2500 calories a day, doing lots of cardio, and trying to lose fat.

This is a simple matter of the laws of nature here.

You cannot create something out of nothing.

For most people 2500 cals a day would be maintenance calories if they're doing weight lifting. Add in cardio, and 2500 cals is below maintenance for the majority of the population.

Now how on earth are you supposed to put on mass if you're eating below maintenance?

Steroids will not help you put on weight if you're not eating 300-500 cals or more over your maintenance limit, and you won't see much of a strength gain if you're not putting on any mass. Also, I haven't seen many people doing cuts with Havoc/Epistane/Epidrol... there are other steroids out there much better suited for cutting. Seems to me Epidrol is great for packing on the mass, which is what most people have reported, something that won't happen if you're not getting enough calories. Thus you will see very little results.

If you're going to take something like Epidrol, then aim to gain a lot of mass while you're on it and cut afterwards.

[dirtydean12]

^^^word

[SouthernRebel]

well if you looked at my awnser you would have seen that I said I wasn't trying to put any weight, just get rid of my gyno a little bit, now Havoc/epistane/epidrol are supposedly the miracle fixes for that, I don't want any more weight on me so why would I want to eat more than 2500 calories a day, I will add though that the last week I've been taking 50mg a day and my workouts have been pretty insane, I have retaken my BF% since last month and I am up 4 pounds of lean mass and down 5 pounds of fat, You can credit that to epidrol if you want I really don't care. I just want this GD gyno to go down a little bit. The only problem I have had with epidrol is severe pains in my back right under my shoulder blade, This happens about 30 mins after I take the epidrol, it actually stopped when I started taking 50mg a day

[dirtydean12]

DAY 6
Off, went to watch Lamb of God and Hatebreed!

DAY 7
CHEST

• incline bb press: 135x12, 165x11, 185x6--135x6
• decline bb press: 165x12, 185x9, 205x6
• incline db fly: 40x8, 35x9,8
• pec-deck: 120x12,10,8
• incline hammer strength: 70(per side)x10,8,8
• cable crossover: 65x12, 70x8,6

Well its only day 7 and I noticed some pretty good improvements compared to my last chest workout, reps were up and some minor weight increases, hopefully it will get more drastic as days go by! Comparison below.

DAY 1
*Beginning weight=184 lbs*

• incline bb press: 135x12, 160x10, 185x6-135x6
• decline bb press: 165x10, 185x8, 205x4-155x8
• pec-deck: 120x10,8,8
• incline db fly: 35x10,8,8
• cable crossover: 65x10, 70x8,8

[DrnkMnky]

Logs looking good man. Have you noticed an increased sense of well-being?

[dirtydean12]

Logs looking good man. Have you noticed an increased sense of well-being?

I dunno if I'd say well-being...but that sense of "feeling" bigger/stronger if you know what i mean

[dirtydean12]

DAY 8
Off, Mom's b-day...hittin back tomorrow, all free weights no machines. Gonna go back to doing arms on their own day til the end of the cycle. Chest is sore as a mofo!

[DABONER79]

How was the L. O. G. and Hatebreed. Did you get in the pit with some of that new strength? I've seen L.O.G still waiting on the chance for hatebreed.

[dirtydean12]

How was the L. O. G. and Hatebreed. Did you get in the pit with some of that new strength? I've seen L.O.G still waiting on the chance for hatebreed.

hatebreed had one of the most brutal pits i have ever seen! they called a circle pit around the sound booth that was about 75 feet across and packed, brutal! sucks cuz i got dinked right where my lip and nose meet, still hurts! pit wasnt too intense for LOG, everyone kinda stared in awe, i've seen LOG 3 times and i think that was their best

[DABONER79]

hatebreed had one of the most brutal pits i have ever seen! they called a circle pit around the sound booth that was about 75 feet across and packed, brutal! sucks cuz i got dinked right where my lip and nose meet, still hurts! pit wasnt too intense for LOG, everyone kinda stared in awe, i've seen LOG 3 times and i think that was their best

I think the most brutal pit I've seen had to be f'ing hostlie, on the vulgar display of power tour. Got my butt kicked right outa that one. Where was the show? Good log by the way. Ever checked out the band Parkway drive. They push me through some bitchen workouts.

[dirtydean12]

I think the most brutal pit I've seen had to be f'ing hostlie, on the vulgar display of power tour. Got my butt kicked right outa that one. Where was the show? Good log by the way. Ever checked out the band Parkway drive. They push me through some bitchen workouts.

It was at a park in Bakersfield, there was literally a sandbox like 300ft from the stage lol. I'll check out parkway drive...check out the new devildriver, incredible.

[DABONER79]

It was at a park in Bakersfield, there was literally a sandbox like 300ft from the stage lol. I'll check out parkway drive...check out the new devildriver, incredible.

I'm on it. loved the first 2

[dirtydean12]

DAY 7
BACK

• bb rows: 135x12, 165x10, 185x7, 205x5
• bb t-bar rows:125x12, 135x8, 145x6
• db rows: 90x12, 100x10, 105x8
• widegrip pullups: bw+25x6,4, bwx6

Today I started back doing arms on a separate day, and every workout will have all freeweights w/the exception of arms and chest in which I might use cables at the end. Strength still feels great, followed up the workout w/a scoop of Growth Factor, 1/2 cup oats, 1 banana, and a scoop of nectar(WPI). GFH!

[dirtydean12]

DAY 8
SHOULDERS

• seated db press: 60x8,8,7
• bent over db raise: 30x12--20x6, 30x10--20x6, 30x8--20x6
• seated lateral raise: 35x10--25x6, 35x8--25x6, 35x8--25x6
• cable uncrossover: 40x12, 45x10, 50x8
• bb shrugs: 255x8, 275x5, 205x10

Seated press didn't feel too strong, but I haven't done it in a while and I could tell my stabilizers needed work. Everything else felt good, had more drive/aggression finishing sets, weights are still moving on up so I feel good.

[qweewq12]

Notice any fat loss?

[dirtydean12]

DAY 9
ARMS

• seated narrow grip preacher curl: 75x12, 85x8, 95x8
• seated alt db curl: 45x8,6 40x8
• db hammer curl: 45x10,8 40x6
• 2 hand high pulley cable curl: 55x10,8, 50x8
• weighted dips: bw+55x10,10,8
• 2hand overhead db extension: 65x12,12,12
• one hand reverse grip pulldown: 45x12,10,10

Had a good pump, felt real strong on hammer curls and db extension. Was going to do another tri exercise but I was pretty fried from the weighted dips. My goal is to do weighted dips with 80lbs added by the end of the cycle.

[dirtydean12]

DAY 10
off...

DAY 11
LEGS

• squats: 225x12, 275x8, 315x6new PR
• 45* leg press: 270x12, 360x10, 450x7
• seated leg curl: 120x12, 135x12, 150x12
• seated calf raise: 90x12, 100x10, 105x8

Wow, not even onto week 3 and strength increases are insane! 315x6 was impossible to me 2 weeks ago, but I was suprised after unracking the bar how much lighter the weight felt! Also doing 12 reps on leg curls on all weights is much better than last week.

[dirtydean12]

a 20 pound increase on squats in one week! 315x6 this week compared to 295x4 last week, up 20lbs and added 2 more reps!

[dark_man812]

Damn, Dean! Congrats on the PR!

[dirtydean12]

Damn, Dean! Congrats on the PR!

thanks bra!

[qweewq12]

a 20 pound increase on squats in one week! 315x6 this week compared to 295x4 last week, up 20lbs and added 2 more reps!

Sounds like that stuff is kicking in!

[dirtydean12]

also just in case anyone's wondering....no sides whatsoever thus far

[dirtydean12]

DAY 12
CHEST

• incline bb press: 155x12, 175x8, 195x4
• decline bb press: 185x10, 205x6, 225x4
• pec-deck: 120x12,10,10
• incline db fly: 35x12,10,8
• dips: BWx10,10,10

Strength increases arent as profound as they were in legs workout but still going up nonetheless. Hopefully that 195 on incline will be a 205 next week!

[dirtydean12]

DAY 13
Off...
DAY 14
BACK

• bb rows: 135x12, 165x10, 185x7--135x10
• bb t-bar rows: 135x12, 145x8, 155x6
• db rows: 90x10, 100x8,6
• deadlifts: 225x10,10
• widegrip pullups: bw+30x6,6

A great workout, except I wish my bb row numbers would go up...better hit it harder next time!