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    Maybe the double vacc'd are only affected by the Omicron, which seems to be milder, you would still get people who get seriously ill, from the Omicron....just far less of them.

    There are other strains that are still out there, those who have not been vaccinated are very susceptible to both the Omicron and Delta. They probably would represent higher # of cases of seriously ill who actually have to be hospitalized, or at least get very ill and don't require hospitalization. At least those are the government stats I have seen.

    Big thing I have noticed here there are less deaths. 10400 cases were tallied yesterday, here in Ontario with only 3 deaths. Last year there were days when there was 50 or 60 people a day who succumbed, for a smaller case count...mostly the elderly or seriously infirm, with much more seriously ill in the hospital and in ICU .

    We have 88% in Ontario 12 yrs or older who have been 2xVacc'd

    Maybe light at the end of the tunnel? It seems since more are getting infected, the higher rate of infection tells me many are beginning to just go about their lives as normal, especially if they have 2 doses and now a booster working in.

    Once my Booster kicks in in another week and a bit I am going back at the gym (last visit was on the 21?...when cases shot through the roof here) Just won't be doing cardio, I can do that at home. Its hard to do Cardio with a mask on for an extended period.
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    Originally Posted by Cantplankwell View Post

    Once my Booster kicks in in another week and a bit I am going back at the gym (last visit was on the 21?...when cases shot through the roof here) Just won't be doing cardio, I can do that at home. Its hard to do Cardio with a mask on for an extended period.
    You"re actually that worried about it that you would let it affect where you go ?????

    I didn't think people like you existed
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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    You"re actually that worried about it that you would let it affect where you go ?????

    I didn't think people like you existed


    Yep, this new strain is very contagious. A month ago there was a lot less risk, things were near normal, as normal can be now.


    Both wife and I are self employed, at lot rides on my availability... and my employees by extension...for work (contracting business...with tight deadlines).

    We also have elderly parents, who we are around a lot.
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    Taking the UK as a whole... 1/60 (i.e. one person in every 60 on average) has been tested and been positive. So 1/60 of the country's population IN THE LAST 7 DAYS!!! (And UK is dominated by Omicron, Delta is very much the minority strain now)

    I think this settles any remaining debate whether Omicron is more infectious than Delta
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    Two confirmed cases for you? I was wondering about post-infection immunity, with the rate numbers are increasing right now it seems plausible reinfections are increasing...
    Yes. Both confirmed by doctor tests. First time was over a year ago. Very mild and symptoms almost identical to this time except I haven't lost my smell....yet
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    My great uncle passed away from COVID but that was late 2020 before these variants and the vaccine. I didn't even go to the funeral because i was against all mass gatherings at that point... . Didn't even go to my grandma's funeral a few months earlier (she didn't die of covid though) and I kind of regret it
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    Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g View Post
    Yes. Both confirmed by doctor tests. First time was over a year ago. Very mild and symptoms almost identical to this time except I haven't lost my smell....yet
    Good info, that’s exactly what I was thinking based on the numbers we are seeing here. The increase in cases makes me think omicron is causing reinfection, but basically the reinfection is essentially a common cold like illness for most. Saw something about 80% less chance of hospitalization, but our hospitals are filing up quick so this will likely be short and intense.
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    they used to call it the flu. it comes around in winter just about every year.

    Thats all it is now.

    Think about it. every winter people say they have the flu. in reality they have a cold and maybe 10% actually have the actual flu. Come spring 90% of the people will say they had the flu.

    Same thing here but they now call it covid.

    if it were a deadly pandemic, there would be daed bodies all over the streets. It would not be where you get it and sit around watching the price is right and flea market flip while drinking chicken soup.
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    Originally Posted by Keltron View Post
    My great uncle passed away from COVID but that was late 2020 before these variants and the vaccine. I didn't even go to the funeral because i was against all mass gatherings at that point... . Didn't even go to my grandma's funeral a few months earlier (she didn't die of covid though) and I kind of regret it
    That is a tough call. Thousands of families went through the same, not being able to go to funerals or see their loved ones.
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    I'd bet there is a correlation with percentages of vaccinated people. Higher vaccinated populations (NY) will have more vaccinated people in ICU, lower vaccinated populations (IN) will have a greater number of unvaccinated people in ICU.
    ^ Excellent point PP. I have a friend in the fire dept in the town I work in who said they have 18 firemen out with covid. All of the unvaxed were fired months ago so that means the ones who are getting this are all jabbed...
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    That is a tough call. Thousands of families went through the same, not being able to go to funerals or see their loved ones.
    Yeah dude.... it sucked. When my great uncle was dying of COVID, his sons (who are around my age and who I grew up with) couldn't even see him or be in the room w/him during his last moments.
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    Originally Posted by Keltron View Post
    Yeah dude.... it sucked. When my great uncle was dying of COVID, his sons (who are around my age and who I grew up with) couldn't even see him or be in the room w/him during his last moments.
    Holy...
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    Yeah dude.... it sucked. When my great uncle was dying of COVID, his sons (who are around my age and who I grew up with) couldn't even see him or be in the room w/him during his last moments.
    im sorry but that is so fuc*d up. This whole thing is one big scam to break everyone’s spirit. Disagree if you want….
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    im sorry but that is so fuc*d up. This whole thing is one big scam to break everyone’s spirit. Disagree if you want….
    no point in disagreeing at this point if I'm going to be totally honest. I'd rather just thank you for your condolences
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    no point in disagreeing at this point if I'm going to be totally honest. I'd rather just thank you for your condolences
    yes of course condolences.I went through the same scenario and it was gut wrenching Disagreeing was aimed at the general public.
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    You"re actually that worried about it that you would let it affect where you go ?????

    I didn't think people like you existed
    Very few exist. I was chatting with my Aunt an RN, she told me people come in for tests just to know if they can or cant go to Xmas gathering, its really sad that a high amount of the population that have cold symptoms cant figure out on their own to stay the fuk home, no one wants your fuking cold, what good is a Covid test anyway if they have symptoms.

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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    You"re actually that worried about it that you would let it affect where you go ?????

    I didn't think people like you existed
    Let me comment on this.
    If i was single and never really saw my older, sick, family members i would be less concerned about this thing because i am a health nut and have been into fitness for decades.
    The problem exists with my exposing others who are not as healthy and fit as me, to the "stuff" that i choose to do on a daily basis.
    The messaging from both admins has been a *complete mess* and the *guidelines change as frequently* as they discover new info and data.
    So being overly cautious hopefully doesn't wreck any family or friends who aren't sharing their real health status to me.

    Today MD released that 75% of the patients are unvaxxed while 25% are vaxxed;as the hospitals in the DC area are in crisis mode.
    So it looks like i have a 25% chance of (+/-) wrecking a relative.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Let me comment on this.
    If i was single and never really saw my older, sick, family members i would be less concerned about this thing because i am a health nut and have been into fitness for decades.
    The problem exists with my exposing others who are not as healthy and fit as me, to the "stuff" that i choose to do on a daily basis.
    The messaging from both admins has been a *complete mess* and the *guidelines change as frequently* as they discover new info and data.
    So being overly cautious hopefully doesn't wreck any family or friends who aren't sharing their real health status to me.

    Today MD released that 75% of the patients are unvaxxed while 25% are vaxxed;as the hospitals in the DC area are in crisis mode.
    So it looks like i have a 25% chance of (+/-) wrecking a relative.
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    if it were a deadly pandemic, there would be daed bodies all over the streets. It would not be where you get it and sit around watching the price is right and flea market flip while drinking chicken soup.
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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    I quoted someone who was talking about going to the gym...

    How you changed the narrative into visiting sick elderly people is a mystery
    i didn't see the earlier quote(my bad), i was just speaking generally.
    Lot's of people on the site question anyone's motives when they are careful and have changed their behaviors during this time.
    I actually know several people in Arizona that cancelled the membership over safety concerns.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Let me comment on this.
    If i was single and never really saw my older, sick, family members i would be less concerned about this thing because i am a health nut and have been into fitness for decades.
    The problem exists with my exposing others who are not as healthy and fit as me, to the "stuff" that i choose to do on a daily basis.
    The messaging from both admins has been a *complete mess* and the *guidelines change as frequently* as they discover new info and data.
    So being overly cautious hopefully doesn't wreck any family or friends who aren't sharing their real health status to me.

    Today MD released that 75% of the patients are unvaxxed while 25% are vaxxed;as the hospitals in the DC area are in crisis mode.
    So it looks like i have a 25% chance of (+/-) wrecking a relative.

    It isn't that difficult, for instance I'm not going to BIL this weekend now, because well the kids got him sick. I could care less about covid, I don't want a cold, I would've made the same choice 5 years ago.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I actually know several people in Arizona that cancelled the membership over safety concerns.
    Again, how hard is it to just look in the gym and make a decision? Most gyms are empty often, cancelling a membership, LOL, sad, get we go back to 1980's when people had sense
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    It isn't that difficult, for instance I'm not going to BIL this weekend now, because well the kids got him sick. I could care less about covid, I don't want a cold, I would've made the same choice 5 years ago.
    A cold or flu for me is mild and has never required hospitalization, this thing.....for *some other people* is different.
    No idea how it would be for me, hopefully mild.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Again, how hard is it to just look in the gym and make a decision? Most gyms are empty often, cancelling a membership, LOL, sad, get we go back to 1980's when people had sense
    Maybe they were paranoid about Covid or hated the gym, who knows.
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    I'm hearing about it more from people in Southern California that are getting Covid.

    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Again, how hard is it to just look in the gym and make a decision? Most gyms are empty often, cancelling a membership, LOL, sad, get we go back to 1980's when people had sense
    My gym is pretty barren. I don't know how they are staying open.
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    I'm hearing about it more from people in Southern California that are getting Covid.



    My gym is pretty barren. I don't know how they are staying open.
    No queuing for the squat rack at opening time like in "the old days" at my gym, it's pretty quiet but the familiar faces of the dedicated regulars are still there
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    The city I live in is a bit worse off than others in the state - lots of antivaxxers here. I'm vaxxed for a lot of reasons, not shaming anyone. My doctor's whole office caught covid this year and they had the shot. Sh!t happens.

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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    im sorry but that is so fuc*d up. This whole thing is one big scam to break everyone’s spirit. Disagree if you want….
    So I'm not trying to bait or troll you as I'm genuinely confused... but if you believe that my uncle did actually have covid and died from it, what is the scam you're referring to?
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    Originally Posted by Keltron View Post
    So I'm not trying to bait or troll you as I'm genuinely confused... but if you believe that my uncle did actually have covid and died from it, what is the scam you're referring to?
    The mandates and general over reach of the government and pharma companies.
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