Phil Heath Addresses Kai Greene and His Olympia Win

[BartPimpson]

Can we put the question to the people on this forum who have competed? DPNZ and Tim and whoever else? Do you think getting down to 6-8% was of net benefit to your health?

I'm doubtful but what do I know.

[AniMaLizTik]

Can we put the question to the people on this forum who have competed? DPNZ and Tim and whoever else? Do you think getting down to 6-8% was of net benefit to your health?

I'm doubtful but what do I know.

Simply getting down that low being healthy isn't what I'm claiming. Doing it very slowly while keeping your internal systems operating correctly is.

Anyone can hire a guru and follow his 16 week program and get shredded and maybe even win. Good luck with life after the contest tho

[Larfleeze]

"symmetry"
"just beat him overall if you look at all angles"
"Rhoden in 2nd"
"You just don't have the eye"

I wonder how much of it is an act and how much is just his genuine stupidity.

[Ryanreece]

I wonder how much of it is an act and how much is just his genuine stupidity.

phil must be reading these forums lol

[Ajthemeso]

He does lurk actually. He just doesn't respond to every comment regarding him.

[patbanya]

I lost all respect for Phil after I saw this. Honestly, how can we let someone who watches that on their computer represent bodybuilding? Disgraceful!

[IsaacMutant]

Piss poor attempt at a joke^

Just like 'Lifetime natural' under your username.

[endurancell]

I wonder how much of it is an act and how much is just his genuine stupidity.

That's what i thought at first, then I realized that Phil is obviously trolling, attempting to troll the trolls that troll him about Kai

[TortureMaster]

Title should be "Phil addressing his own insecurities".

[Ajthemeso]

Piss poor attempt at a joke^

Just like 'Lifetime natural' under your username.

Uh oh, here comes the fun police lol..

[iWantToGrow]

Can's stand Lobliner, he's such a *******.

[SammyJr]

Bobble head Lobliner..."Yeah Phil, Yup Phil, Totally Phil...That's awesome Phil...I'm so in love with you Phil...Oops, did I say that last one out loud?!"

Heath's College basketball parallel and mention that he played top tier NCAA came in right on time as usual...he never disappoints.

loool. agreed on both


also why is phil talking about pro bodybuilding being healthy...

[Ryanreece]

Can's stand Lobliner, he's such a *******.

this

[AniMaLizTik]

Piss poor attempt at a joke^

Just like 'Lifetime natural' under your username.

watch out guise, we gotta badase over here

[cedricnumerouno]

Piss poor attempt at a joke^

Just like 'Lifetime natural' under your username.

Fuk off.


He's legit natural 100% srs.

[Canuck77]

Fuk off.


He's legit natural 100% srs.

Not if he took Isatori by Lobliner...that chit is Colostrum!!! IGF, kills your "natty" status...Sammy, take notes son...don't sucumb to the Lobliner promises of sick gains with his Isatori Bio Grow...you will be non natty son.

[cedricnumerouno]

Not if he took Isatori by Lobliner...that chit is Colostrum!!! IGF, kills your "natty" status...Sammy, take notes son...don't sucumb to the Lobliner promises of sick gains with his Isatori Bio Grow...you will be non natty son.

Bro..
IT'S JUST COLOSTRUM!





Lobliner is a scumbag for selling that **** (along with 99.99% of his ****).

[HOCH]

LOL. I know you like Arnold and all, but Arnold is absolutely a narcissist and psychopath. He treats people like garbage then laughs about it, has a bully mentality, and let's not forget knew he had a illegitimate child with his nanny AND ran for governor WHILE secretly hiding this WHILE making his wife say he is a good guy. Hilarious. No disrespect for you opinion but come on. He is not exactly a great guy.

^Hmmm...well I would perhaps respectfully disagree with you there and say that Arnold was more genuinely charismatic rather than a true narcissist. (Charismatic: exercising a compelling charm that inspires devotion in others). But I could see how some could also call him a narcissist, as he did have some of those traits.

I agree with you on all other points. I don't personally think he will win 10 Sandows either based on the regression over the last 4 years.

Also, Heath has won the last 4 Olympias yet if you look at Kai on social media, he has more likes/followers/subscribers et. on instagram/********/twitter/YouTube. And as some pointed out, Phil is trying hard to market himself on these platforms of social media, does these collabs et., that imo, come across fake, awkward and forced. Kai doesn't even really seem to try, yet still holds more fans on all levels. You have to ask yourself why that is...there is an obvious reason why the "champ" doesn't have the majority of the followers/fans and imho it starts with a P and ends with a y and it isn't the word "puppy" from when he called a kid/fan a "female puppy ass" on instagram.

[IsaacMutant]

Fuk off.


He's legit natural 100% srs.

Mmmkay, and Santa is real.

Care to add something constructive to the debate at hand or would you prefer to carry on honeydickin' Phillip & Patrick?

[cedricnumerouno]

Mmmkay, and Santa is real.

Care to add something constructive to the debate at hand or would you prefer carry on honeydickin' Phillip & Patrick?

Lol.


Either way, he's black. So it's entirely possible for him to be natural.

[IsaacMutant]

Lol.


Either way, he's black. So it's entirely possible for him to be natural.

Residing in Africa & knowing dozens of enhanced bodybuilders with decent knowledge of training & nutrition, some of which are direct descendants from the great King Shaka Zulu and Nelson Mandela himself, I highly doubt that statement.

Believe it or not, some black people can have bad genetics for bodybuilding. At the same time I do believe the majority of them have the best structures for this game.

[patbanya]

Care to add something constructive to the debate at hand or would you prefer to carry on honeydickin' Phillip & Patrick?

You're entitled to your opinion, even when it's wrong. But, you could at least get my name right. In my case, "Pat" isn't short for "Patrick". Most of the regulars are well aware of that.

[Problematique91]

You're entitled to your opinion, even when it's wrong. But, you could at least get my name right. In my case, "Pat" isn't short for "Patrick". Most of the regulars are well aware of that.

Patrice?

[AniMaLizTik]

love it when *******s who havent even been training and eating properly for 2 years go all natty police on dudes that's been grinding for a decade +.

[SammyJr]

Not if he took Isatori by Lobliner...that chit is Colostrum!!! IGF, kills your "natty" status...Sammy, take notes son...don't sucumb to the Lobliner promises of sick gains with his Isatori Bio Grow...you will be non natty son.

wait, WUT. Are you being serious or is bio-grow just crap and does nothing?

Patrice?

no

[NaturalLoco]

Can we put the question to the people on this forum who have competed? DPNZ and Tim and whoever else? Do you think getting down to 6-8% was of net benefit to your health?

I'm doubtful but what do I know.

I think once you start getting your glutes in is where the fun begins.. lethargic, lose libido, become extremely forgetful, clumsy.. these are just short term side effects..

not to mention that most of these guys use diuretics which really **** you up

[Ajthemeso]

You're entitled to your opinion, even when it's wrong. But, you could at least get my name right. In my case, "Pat" isn't short for "Patrick". Most of the regulars are well aware of that.

Good man, Pat. <3

love it when *******s who havent even been training and eating properly for 2 years go all natty police on dudes that's been grinding for a decade +.

Strong this. So sad and yet so funny at the same time lol.

wait, WUT. Are you being serious or is bio-grow just crap and does nothing?

Wolrd = shattered! Hundreds of dollars down the drain What am I going to do with my life now?

[matthew2474]

LOL. I know you like Arnold and all, but Arnold is absolutely a narcissist and psychopath. He treats people like garbage then laughs about it, has a bully mentality, and let's not forget knew he had a illegitimate child with his nanny AND ran for governor WHILE secretly hiding this WHILE making his wife say he is a good guy. Hilarious. No disrespect for you opinion but come on. He is not exactly a great guy.

This. If you don't see the narcissism in Arnold you're just starstruck and being biased. Chit even he claims that when he was younger he kinda regrets being like that. If someone acted the way Arnold did today as a Mr.O, everyone would be freaking out about how much a douchebag he is.

[jahaa]

[IsaacMutant]

love it when *******s who havent even been training and eating properly for 2 years go all natty police on dudes that's been grinding for a decade +.

2 years short of a decade of training here, longest time off maybe 6 months. Definitely have a far above average grasp on nutrition than most. Friends with many national level competitors, close acquaintance to an IFBB junior world champ title holder. So let's make some new assumptions shall we?

Not to mention I look better than you & you're age 40+ plus spitting generic responses & calling me a ******* on a public forum. No need of Patnelli to post that Kai ****, anyway sure I seen some homo as fuk pics of him on Getbig once upon a time.

Done with you fools.