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    my preferred weapon

    Agreed, but he kinda looks like he as downs or something....

    mine isnt special.


    also a short barrel 12 ga with a round of rock salt followed by 00 buck shot is the perfect home defense weapon.

    You get one warning then its lights out. You dont have to aim worth a crap and the sound of a round being chambered along with the bark on that fuzzy thing is enough to make anyone crap themselves.
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    Launch a clay pigeon in the air and try shooting it with anything but a shotgun.

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    Originally Posted by IIIWolverineIII View Post
    Launch a clay pigeon in the air and try shooting it with anything but a shotgun.

    That's why.
    Yeah because clay pigeons being launched at the sky are going to invade your house
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    Originally Posted by EnderG60 View Post
    Agreed, but he kinda looks like he as downs or something....

    mine isnt special.


    also a short barrel 12 ga with a round of rock salt followed by 00 buck shot is the perfect home defense weapon.

    You get one warning then its lights out. You dont have to aim worth a crap and the sound of a round being chambered along with the bark on that fuzzy thing is enough to make anyone crap themselves.
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    Originally Posted by Bigdumogre View Post
    Nothing is easier to use than a glock
    Point and pull

    But yep Trinity shepards are the best dogs to own. Mine would not hurt anyone even the kids pulling her tail/ears unless she felt someone was threatened.
    Was wrestling with my friend in the house and she came charging and bit him in the leg and dragged him a few feet lol
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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    Yeah because clay pigeons being launched at the sky are going to invade your house
    You werent even in the same hemisphere as the point.
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    Originally Posted by Trinity1216 View Post
    They are loyal unto death...





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    Originally Posted by IIIWolverineIII View Post
    You werent even in the same hemisphere as the point.
    I know what you meant and I've already addressed it ITT brah.
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    Most people who just want a gun for home defense don't go down to the range and practice EOD. So the spread is going to help them hit something instead of spraying wildly. I'm sure most of the people here praising pistols who are range warriors would miss 100% of their shots if they were shooting at 30 ft at a dark, possibly armed shape at 3:30 AM.
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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    Yeah an MP5 with an double mag would be the best thing for self defense. Those things have basically no recoil at all.

    What's even worse is the Hughes amendment didn't even pass legally =/
    The hughes amendment was pretty sad. The amendment failed vote, but from my undetstanding then was inserted into the FOPA and that passed, and Reagan signed it into law so it is law. Supreme court has stayed out of house rules violations, saying its their business.
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    They are loyal unto death... I had a shepherd/rottie mix, best dog I have ever had, I still miss her
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    Originally Posted by TirCeol View Post
    Most people who just want a gun for home defense don't go down to the range and practice EOD. So the spread is going to help them hit something instead of spraying wildly. I'm sure most of the people here praising pistols who are range warriors would miss 100% of their shots if they were shooting at 30 ft at a dark, possibly armed shape at 3:30 AM.
    This. You dumb bastards would be shooting the toaster, the TV, the floor, the bathroom sink, two lamps, and the cat.
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    The hughes amendment was pretty sad. The amendment failed vote, but from my undetstanding then was inserted into the FOPA and that passed, and Reagan signed it into law so it is law. Supreme court has stayed out of house rules violations, saying its their business.
    I wonder if there is ever a possibility that it would get deemed unconstitutional. All firearm laws down to the NFA are anyways.

    The biggest hurdle is the second soccer moms see the word machine guns and legal in the same sentence they will go ape sh*t and lose it.
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    Nice peppering spread minimum wall penetration. My hd weapon is the public defender.
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    This. You dumb bastards would be shooting the toaster, the TV, the floor, the bathroom sink, two lamps, and the cat.
    Ummmm that is why we practice I happen to like my toaster and I would hate to harm it.
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    Because "muh spread" and "muh birdshot"

    The best reason is really "muh reliability" since the odds of a decent pump malfunctioning are somewhere within 0.001%

    Beyond that, "muh versatility" is also legit, considering you can load a pretty wide variety of loads into the same 12 ga: Birdshot, Buckshot, Slugs, Nonlethal, and all the exotic ****.
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    This. You dumb bastards would be shooting the toaster, the TV, the floor, the bathroom sink, two lamps, and the cat.
    What better excuse to go to Ikea afterwards?
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    A shotgun is prime for home defense in a hunker down in a room and point it at the door until it opens scenario. The average Joe isn't trained to sweep a house during an invasion.
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    Originally Posted by Trinity1216 View Post
    Because you don't need a permit to own a shotgun. And a lot easier to use I guess.

    Personally like you said it would not be optimal in tight places so it's not my first choice, rather my shield any day over a shotgun. Plus we have guns hidden around the house so no matter what level of the home we are in, there is a weapon we can get to fairly easy
    guns hidden all over the house, makes it sound like you're living in a mr & mrs smith house reach into a vase dont have a a dozen flowers got a 12 guage shotty.
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    guns hidden all over the house, makes it sound like you're living in a mr & mrs smith house reach into a vase dont have a a dozen flowers got a 12 guage shotty.
    LOL nah we actually love each other very much. We just love our weapons as well and believe in being prepared and well armed I am getting a compound bow next.... I can't wait!
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    There are many reasons, but in the end, an AR-15 is probably the best option.
    1. Long guns are better for aiming than pistols. So that's one plus.
    2. Shotguns also have immense stopping power with 9 pellets of 00 buck, that's like 9 different 9mm projectiles headed towards the vitals of an assailant. #1 buck I think has 16 30 caliber projectiles...also very nice.
    3. Shotguns can be very cheap
    4. Buckshot is less likely to penetrate a wall and hit someone on the other side like a pistol round will.

    However, most shotguns will suffer from low magazine volume. The recoil is also quite high. An AR-15 with 30rd magazine is probably better as it brings substantial firepower with little recoil...yet maintains the long gun aiming.
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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    I wonder if there is ever a possibility that it would get deemed unconstitutional. All firearm laws down to the NFA are anyways.

    The biggest hurdle is the second soccer moms see the word machine guns and legal in the same sentence they will go ape sh*t and lose it.
    The oral arguments in Heller were pretty telling about the SCOTUS feeling on machine guns. Only a few people owned them was argued. One of the reasons they overturned the DC gun ban was handgun was a popular weapon of home defense. So popularity has a lot to do with what is legal apparently, sad. I'd dig up the oral argument transcript from Heller but its depressing
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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    I never understood this ( especially pump action ). Unless you get your stamps they have to have an 18" barrel and be at least 26" long.

    Why would you want a long arm like that in the CQC environment? Any pistol with a 30rd mag and hollowpoints would be more ideal than a shotgun.
    because shotguns are the best, easiest, cheapest, and most powerful firearm for home defense.

    Unless OP has gorilla arms, a pistol held in proper shooting postion will be almost the length of a short shotgun.

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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    I never understood this ( especially pump action ). Unless you get your stamps they have to have an 18" barrel and be at least 26" long.

    Why would you want a long arm like that in the CQC environment? Any pistol with a 30rd mag and hollowpoints would be more ideal than a shotgun.
    Lol at following the law for home defense weapons.
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    1. the sound of a shotgun cycling has made more than one intruder leave the premises. This alone is why they are endorsed so well for home protection.
    2. it's dark, adrenaline pumping - not the time to rely on pinpoint accuracy
    3. someone mentioned above, the shotgun is the perfect weapon to point at an entrance way or down a stairwell

    The only advantage a handgun has in home defense is that it allows you to call the police with the other hand.


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    Lol at Rock salt
    Someone broke into your house to do whatever to whoever
    I will be stopping the threat at all costs
    lol someone actually negged me for the rock salt round.

    Guess Im the only one that wants to see the fukwit that broke into my house writhing around in pain while my dog barks at him waiting for the cops.

    You come into my world like that and a quick death is a gift.
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