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    Not sure if anyone is a listener to Michael Savage but he pointed out and listed all the costs from Illegal Inmigration

    According to Savage's calculations, the US spends 337 billion every year on illegal immigration (kids in schools, bilingual education, hospitals)

    Why are some so called Conservatives so soft when it comes to Illegal Immigration?

    You think that given amnesty, they're all of a sudden going to act like Americans? Speak English? Learn our values and culture? Get real.
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    Originally Posted by bearsfan91 View Post
    Not sure if anyone is a listener to Michael Savage but he pointed out and listed all the costs from Illegal Inmigration

    According to Savage's calculations, the US spends 337 billion every year on illegal immigration (kids in schools, bilingual education, hospitals)

    Why are some so called Conservatives so soft when it comes to Illegal Immigration?

    You think that given amnesty, they're all of a sudden going to act like Americans? Speak English? Learn our values and culture? Get real.
    While the point is no less valid, Savage is a troll and not a true believer. Mark Levin has exposed him many times.
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    The last resort is coming to this.....
    btw, wtf is wrong with our current health insurance that Obama needs to push obamacare in all of us???
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    Originally Posted by CortezWeasel View Post
    The last resort is coming to this.....
    btw, wtf is wrong with our current health insurance that Obama needs to push obamacare in all of us???
    40 million Americans don't have insurance. They can't afford it, can't get it, just for starters.

    BTW, Cruz is an idiot and has no chance at being president.
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    Born in Calgary Canada.
    This is preparation for the union of Canada and The United States. Then, we can stick Canada with some of our bills and put all our people on Canada's health care system.

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    Originally Posted by Timmy96 View Post
    40 million Americans don't have insurance. They can't afford it, can't get it, just for starters.

    BTW, Cruz is an idiot and has no chance at being president.
    Cruz “was an outstanding student in my class,” Dershowitz said. “Without a doubt he is among the smartest students I’ve ever had… I’ve had great students but he has to be at the top of anyone’s short list, in terms of raw brain power.”
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/09/de...test-students/

    Yeah, real idiot there.

    Take this to the bank: he's a hell of a lot smarter than you and any other member of Congress.

    Also, whoever asked what was/is wrong with our healthcare system is a moron.
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    Ted Cruz aired a defund Obamacare commercial in my area a few days ago, was like.....

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    really starting to prefer cruz over paul
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    Originally Posted by Filthy Animal View Post
    really starting to prefer cruz over paul
    Yup, same here.

    The guy is obviously brilliant and logical, as opposed to purely emotional like 95% of democratic politicians.
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    I think you Ted Cruz fans are missing something about your man that's blindingly obvious to the rest of us. He may be intellectually sharper than his colleagues, but he's politically retarded. None of his fellow senators like him, and the other republicans hate him most of all. He may be bright, but he's never going to accomplish anything because no one wants to work with him.
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    Originally Posted by Bullroarer View Post
    I think you Ted Cruz fans are missing something about your man that's blindingly obvious to the rest of us. He may be intellectually sharper than his colleagues, but he's politically retarded. None of his fellow senators like him, and the other republicans hate him most of all. He may be bright, but he's never going to accomplish anything because no one wants to work with him.
    Yeah, let's not vote for him because he's not viewed favorably among his colleagues in the Senate. After all, the American people love them so much.

    Never mind that he's the most intellectual and logically consistent member of Congress.

    How's that "bipartisanship" working out for Obama?
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    Originally Posted by CortezWeasel View Post
    The last resort is coming to this.....
    btw, wtf is wrong with our current health insurance that Obama needs to push obamacare in all of us???
    It's a matter of opinion, really.

    The govt is basically trying to make people who work pay for the healthcare of people who can't afford it for xyz reasons.

    Draw your own conclusion from there. I find it ridiculous, personally.
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    Originally Posted by m0ridin View Post
    Yeah, let's not vote for him because he's not viewed favorably among his colleagues in the Senate. After all, the American people love them so much.

    Never mind that he's the most intellectual and logically consistent member of Congress.

    How's that "bipartisanship" working out for Obama?
    Doesn't matter what the American people think of the rest of the senate, all that matters is what his fellow senators think of him. He can make a nice splash in the headlines but he can't accomplish anything without them.

    Ted Cruz is the smart kid in class who's always raising his hand and giving answers, and thinks that's helping his cause, but when it's time for a group project none of the other kids want to work with him.
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    Ted is being ridiculous IMO

    We had a chance to stop obamacare and we failed. We lost the elections last year. It is realistically over now. We don't have the Senate or the white house.

    There are still other important battles Republicans can focus on

    If he wanted to be an outspoken real leader, he could filibuster any stop gaps until we have a real budget passed. He could fight for the other cutbacks and changes republicans could still make with comprises.

    He is doing silly showmanship for the next election.
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    Originally Posted by Bullroarer View Post
    Doesn't matter what the American people think of the rest of the senate, all that matters is what his fellow senators think of him. He can make a nice splash in the headlines but he can't accomplish anything without them.

    Ted Cruz is the smart kid in class who's always raising his hand and giving answers, and thinks that's helping his cause, but when it's time for a group project none of the other kids want to work with him.
    I'm not sure Ted Cruz wants to work with his fellow Republicans. What's the point when Republicans get corrupted by the culture in Washington and end up becoming a threat to the principles they are suppose to believe in?

    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    Ted is being ridiculous IMO

    We had a chance to stop obamacare and we failed. We lost the elections last year. It is realistically over now. We don't have the Senate or the white house.

    There are still other important battles Republicans can focus on

    If he wanted to be an outspoken real leader, he could filibuster any stop gaps until we have a real budget passed. He could fight for the other cutbacks and changes republicans could still make with comprises.

    He is doing silly showmanship for the next election.
    So sit back and observe why billions of dollars and lives are trashed by the effects of Obamacare?
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    Originally Posted by sawoobley View Post
    So sit back and observe why billions of dollars and lives are trashed by the effects of Obamacare?
    If there was a realistic way to stop it, I'd say go for it. There isn't now. There was a chance last year and we failed. We had a few years to communicate the message to the public of why we should and failed.
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    Originally Posted by Bullroarer View Post
    Doesn't matter what the American people think of the rest of the senate, all that matters is what his fellow senators think of him. He can make a nice splash in the headlines but he can't accomplish anything without them.
    Read my last sentence again.
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    If there was a realistic way to stop it, I'd say go for it. There isn't now. There was a chance last year and we failed. We had a few years to communicate the message to the public of why we should and failed.
    By fighting against Obamacare we will energize the base. If we sit back and do nothing Republicans/Conservatives will not show up for the next election. What's the point if we are just going to go along with the dems when they win a battle. The Republicans need an issue to come together over and a cause to fight for.

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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    If there was a realistic way to stop it, I'd say go for it. There isn't now. There was a chance last year and we failed. We had a few years to communicate the message to the public of why we should and failed.
    We lose 100% of the battles we concede at the outset.

    Personally I'm thrilled with what he's doing - unlike the other phonies in the GOP, he's not claiming to do one thing on the campaign trail only to puss out once he gets to Washington. He's doing exactly what he said he would when he ran for office - the reason it's perceived to be so odd is because it's such a rarity.

    And who cares that he's disliked by the GOP establishment? That's a badge of honor in my eyes.

    And lol at the hard-line leftist buffoon in this thread who called the man with - by far - the highest raw innate intellect in the federal govt an 'idiot.'
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    really starting to prefer cruz over paul
    Ditto. You gotta change your sig to 'Ted Cruz 2016'
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    Unfortunately, he belongs to a party full of morons.

    So unless he goes totally independent he will never get elected
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    Originally Posted by sawoobley View Post
    By fighting against Obamacare we will energize the base. If we sit back and do nothing Republicans/Conservatives will not show up for the next election. What's the point if we are just going to go along with the dems when they win a battle. The Republicans need an issue to come together over and a cause to fight for.
    There are a bunch of issues the republicans still have to fight for. Fighting a battle we already fought 2 times and lost, and now have no chance of winning isn't going to energize the base. It is going to take energy from battles we can still win, and there are many of those.
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    We lose 100% of the battles we concede at the outset.
    We didn't concede at the outset. We fought, and lost. We fought again, failed to communicate, and lost again.
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    We didn't concede at the outset. We fought, and lost. We fought again, failed to communicate, and lost again.
    We lost a battle, but the fight for liberty and against authoritarian progressive statism is everlasting. If you want to vote for Republicans who wish to surrender to the left, that's on you; as for me (and my family/friends), we'll continue to support and vote for those with the spine and fortitude to fight the left at every availing opportunity.

    Look at the left - have they EVER said, "we'll we lost, guess that's that."? No, they fight tooth and nail for every crumb. I want nothing less from my side, and Cruz fits that mold.
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    Why Republicans are dumbphucks:

    1. Most healthcare expenses in the USA stem from smoking and obesity-related illness.
    2. The most obese states as well as the those with the highest rates of smoking are all red states.
    3. Most of the fat phucks who smoke too much and put a strain on our healthcare system are overwhelmingly from Republican-majority states.
    4. Therefore, those that would benefit the MOST from Obamacare would be phat phuck-republicans, not liberals or democrats.

    YOU are the reason our healthcare system is so phucked up yet you are against any measures to fix it, even if you would directly benefit from such measures.


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    Originally Posted by indosthetic View Post
    Why Republicans are dumbphucks:

    1. Most healthcare expenses in the USA stem from smoking and obesity-related illness.
    2. The most obese states as well as the those with the highest rates of smoking are all red states.
    3. Most of the fat phucks who smoke too much and put a strain on our healthcare system are overwhelmingly from Republican-majority states.
    4. Therefore, those that would benefit the MOST from Obamacare would be phat phuck-republicans, not liberals or democrats.

    YOU are the reason our healthcare system is so phucked up yet you are against any measures to fix it, even if you would directly benefit from such measures.


    Good job conservatives, good job.
    what does that say about the intellect of the left who want to pay for those dumb phucks. lol...
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    Originally Posted by DocHol1day View Post
    what does that say about the intellect of the left who want to pay for those dumb phucks. lol...
    That they are pure evil who wish to control and regulate every aspect of human life and behavior...do not mistake it for benevolence.
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    Originally Posted by m0ridin View Post
    Read my last sentence again.
    My point about Ted Cruz is that he sucks at working with people. Pointing out that Obama sucks at working with people doesn't make my comment about Cruz any less true.

    You want to know who's great at sausage-making? Harry Reid. He has all the charisma of a fish but he knows how to get back room deals done. Cruz is all flash and he'll never get deals done, so he's useless to you in practical terms. But that's okay as far as you're concerned because he irritates the establishment politicians you hate. So hey, as long as you want a gadfly who does nothing to advance your agenda, then by all means, Ted Cruz is your man.
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    Originally Posted by m0ridin View Post
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/09/de...test-students/



    Also, whoever asked what was/is wrong with our healthcare system is a moron.
    Very true

    1. People making obscene profits out of healthcare.

    2. Insurance companies and Big Pharma. Eliminate those two then start buolding something new
    Elizabeth Warren for President

    Hilary clinton for VP (Just for the laughs)

    Rich Roll and Brendan Brazier in charge of sports and Nutrition
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    Originally Posted by StabMastaArson View Post
    That they are pure evil who wish to control and regulate every aspect of human life and behavior...do not mistake it for benevolence.
    Lol.

    Not sure if srs.

    Republicans are the ones who have an ass backwards opinion on social issues and want to impose Christian morality on the entire country.
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    Ted Cruz will never be president.
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