Jordan says only 4 guys could play in his era

[IsoMaxx]

brb at the very worst a top 25 player all time
brb greatest finals performance of all time, lead the league in scoring, 2 rings
brb would dominate in ANY era

why do you young guys say such outlandish things? best finals performance EVER? was his finals performance even top 50? No, not even remotley close. it's like you young idiots think that the NBA has only been around for 5 years.

[AJ1528]

New rules have made the league way too easy to score points. Jordan is correct.

Used to be able to keep a hand on the guy's back. BRB this is too much contact for today's players.



You think Wade is not a flopper/whiner and that Jordan is a bigger whiner? Srsly? Also, the superstars didn't get nearly as many calls back then as they do now.

You see, everyone holds that misconception. Teams averaged much higher points in the 80's and 90's before zone defense was legalized. Because of zone defense, teams now have to rely on more ball movement and taking jump shots since you can contain star players with a good zone defense.

I forgot the exact rules from the 80's and 90's but you couldn't even double team unless the player had the ball. Today's defense allows easier double teaming, traps, etc...

[ShweezyBTFO]

why do you young guys say such outlandish things? best finals performance EVER? was his finals performance even top 50? No, not even remotley close. it's like you young idiots think that the NBA has only been around for 5 years.

also completely ignored the fact that it's already been established that d-whistle was handed that series on a silver platter. nuthuggers gon nuthug.

[SompletelyCober]

[SompletelyCober]

why do you young guys say such outlandish things? best finals performance EVER? was his finals performance even top 50? No, not even remotley close. it's like you young idiots think that the NBA has only been around for 5 years.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012...formances-no-1

For the series, Wade averaged 34.7 points, 7.8 rebounds, 3.8 assists and 2.7 steals -- and this in a slow-paced series (neither team cleared the century mark in regulation in any of the six games). His basket attacks were so deadly because the Mavs couldn't stop fouling him. Wade shot a whopping 97 free throws in the six games -- the most of any player since the merger -- including 25 in Game 5.

Overall, Wade's 33.8 PER is easily the best of any Finals performer since the merger. While it seems strange to have somebody besides Michael Jordan in the top spot, the truth is Jordan never dominated a Finals to this extent. At the time, many called Wade's performance Jordanesque. It turns out they might have been selling him short.

[Hegotgame]

The best basketball was played between 87 and 96 period. So basically if you were born after 1987 you have no idea what you're talking about and you never saw MJ or NBA basketball in its prime.

[AJ1528]

they clogged the paint more in the 80s 90s there was no defensive 3 seconds

Zone defense actually allows teams to clog the paint easier since you don't have to stay on your man at all times. That's why they took away the defensive 3 second when zones were allowed because it would be too unfair. In the past you couldn't double team unless the opposing player had the ball. I do admit with the Jordan rules the Bad Boy Pistons implemented, he had a HARD time. They basically triple teamed him and hit him hard as soon as he touched the ball. But when Pippen came along, he had a great second option to kick it out to effectively mitigating that type of strategy.

[thefederalist]

new school basketball:

[svtballa]

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012...formances-no-1

Lol at the most ft attempts in final as history..25! In 1 game are u serious ...lol and calling that the greates performance

[Strizzz]

new school basketball:

Lol'd.

[nvrstopworking]

The best basketball was played between 87 and 96 period. So basically if you were born after 1987 you have no idea what you're talking about and you never saw MJ or NBA basketball in its prime.

The best basketball ever played was during MJ's peak?

I'm smelling some bias here...

[Bezzz]

brb at the very worst a top 25 player all time
brb greatest finals performance of all time, lead the league in scoring, 2 rings
brb would dominate in ANY era

pls go trolls



And yeah, he is a whiner. Pretty much every great player is. Go watch a Bulls game and pay attention to Jordan. Close your eyes and listen to a Lakers game- you'll hear Kobe's verbal flop 20 times throughout the course of the game and if you watch it, you'll see him whining to the refs all fuking game.

LeBron's a whiner, KD's a whiner who has the most techs in the league, even Duncan is known as a whiny kunt, no matter how nice of a guy he is.


It's pretty much part of the game to whine to the refs. Deal with it.

LMFAO at bold

If only the reffs came with him he'd be dominant, he's only successful because the leagues soft as hell. If he tried getting these foul calls Rodman would give his ass a wet willy and force Wade into early retirement. He is top 50 at best......

Greatest finals performance, reffs give him 20+ free throws each of the last 4 games to keep the ratings up, who wants to see a blowout unless its Kobe?

in 10 years we'll have a Dwayne Wade rule for flopping if that makes you feel that hes important.

Atleast he acknowledged Kobe being better.

[dtbrehm]

Dirk established as top 4 GOAT for this era.

[Harrock]

Once again a thread on the misc, a place dominated by guys averaging age 22 who never even saw the goat basketball that was played during the late 80s and early 90s.

LOL @ that guy who said Wade broke his back getting fouled 5 times a niht going to the lane. Back in the 80s and 90s he would have been raped EVERY time he went into the lane, and would have no taste for it. Little bitch wouldn't have the balls. Jordan has a point... only a very select few. Nash would have had a place. I am not sure about Lebron, i think a guy like Reggie Miller or Jordan would have had him in a psych ward after the first meeting. Lebron would definitely pull a starks.

[Harrock]

Well.. god knows a team led by a bunch of geriatrics getting dominated by Wade is the same as beating a team led by a guy like Charles Barkley, or magic, or stockton and malone. Okay brahs.

[*DH*]

LOL no KG? Pierce? Nash? Kidd?

Especially KG and Pierce.

[midcoastking33]

jordan needs to move on

[NJLife]

Once again a thread on the misc, a place dominated by guys averaging age 22 who never even saw the goat basketball that was played during the late 80s and early 90s.

LOL @ that guy who said Wade broke his back getting fouled 5 times a niht going to the lane. Back in the 80s and 90s he would have been raped EVERY time he went into the lane, and would have no taste for it. Little bitch wouldn't have the balls. Jordan has a point... only a very select few. Nash would have had a place. I am not sure about Lebron, i think a guy like Reggie Miller or Jordan would have had him in a psych ward after the first meeting. Lebron would definitely pull a starks.

well to be honest if lebron did play in that era he would have also been raised in that era and they weren't so hyped and babied and on ESPN and all that, so maybe he wouldn't have been so weak minded. just saying :O

[bkw16]

Um KG dominated in the same era. Disrespect.

This. Was thinking lj, Kobe, and as much as I dislike the guy, kg as well

[SompletelyCober]

Well.. god knows a team led by a bunch of geriatrics getting dominated by Wade is the same as beating a team led by a guy like Charles Barkley, or magic, or stockton and malone. Okay brahs.

But I thought a 2006 Dirk in his prime was one of only 4 current players who could thrive in Jordan's era?

So Wade dominating his team and having the greatest finals performance of all time (backed up by stats I've already referenced) means nothing I guess.

lololololol

[210RobinHood]

Prime Ginobili and Wade would've wrecked shop in Jordan's era. That Euro step is nasty.

KG is soft. Barkley or Malone would've beat him down. He's been Duncan's little betch his entire career (I've watched everyone of their games, and the individual stats don't tell the story).

Others that come to mind are CP3, J Kidd, Pierce, Baron Davis, Durant (so long he's unstoppable), Rose and Roy if he could've stayed healthy. They could've all led legitimate teams.

Jordan is probably right about everyone else. Steve Nash, Bosh, Howard, Westbrook, Melo, etc are too soft.

[Bezzz]

But I thought a 2006 Dirk in his prime was one of only 4 current players who could thrive in Jordan's era?

So Wade dominating his team and having the greatest finals performance of all time (backed up by stats I've already referenced) means nothing I guess.

lololololol

By dominating u mean being handed 20+ ft a game for the remaining 4 games when they got blown out the first two right for "basketball reasons"

The same dominant Dirk who absolutely chit on your "superstars" in crunch time, the same fking Dirk who swept GOATbe and co after 2 straight Chips, the same Dirk who lit up OKC on what was suppose to be an easy round against good ol Dirk?. Yea *******, Dirk get it through your head that the 90sGOAT acknowledged him as one of the best.

[YesWeCan]

jordan needs to move on

so much this. quite sickening how annoying he is starting to become.

all because for the first time he legitimately feels his "untouchable" status threatened.

MJ, besides being known as the GOAT, having a killer instinct, etc. was known as being ALPHA.

him all of sudden sharing his old age bitterness is not something I would have expected from him. It's certainly not alpha.

ESP w/his current track record regarding the Bobcats.

[BENTLEY1]

Jordan
Magic
Kareem abdul jubarr
Barkley
Hakeem olajuwan
Reggie miller
Larry bird
David robinson
Patrick ewing
Dominique wilkins
Scottie pippen
Karl malone
John stockton
Shaq
clyde drexler
These off the top of my head were players frm the jordan era. Young brahs? Do you guys really think the new n.b.a stars could compete with that? Thats a lot of star power. Speaking frm actually growing up in the era, I miss the competitive nature that doesn't exihist anymore. Nowadays, guys dnt seem to try until the playoffs.

[bigcc]

I feel vindicated in saying that Dirk is one of the most underrated players to ever play the game

[BENTLEY1]

The best basketball was played between 87 and 96 period. So basically if you were born after 1987 you have no idea what you're talking about and you never saw MJ or NBA basketball in its prime.

Repped.

[porcupinetree]

You think Wade is not a flopper/whiner and that Jordan is a bigger whiner? Srsly? Also, the superstars didn't get nearly as many calls back then as they do now.

B S

Back in the 80's, at the end of the year they had an All-whiner team. Guess who was always on it? Magic. And he was proud of it.

Starts didn't get the calls back then? Oh yes they did. That's why when MJ, Magic and Larry were getting photographed for a cover, Magic said "I can't get too close to Michael or it's a foul" and Jordan got mad and told Magic off for all the calls he got.

The funniest part of that article was when Quinn Buckner got on Jordan for getting all the calls he got and Jordan just denies it.

I loved watched MJ until about 1993, when he got the calls so much, that I was glad when he retired. And I hated him more when he came back because he got even more calls. Jordan was notorious for screaming at refs and trying to intimidate them.

Consider this: In a 1992 game vs the Jazz, MJ was called for a foul in a tie game at the end of the 3rd OT. It bascially gave the jazz the win. It was a good call, Jordan committed the foul, but he went berserk and the ref threw him out of the game (there was less than a second left)
Jordan was really pissed about it in the lockerroom and for days after.
That ref never reffed an NBA game again.
What kind of an effect did that have on refs who thought about calling a foul on MJ after that?

[AJ1528]

Jordan
Magic
Kareem abdul jubarr
Barkley
Hakeem olajuan
Reggie miller
Larry bird
David robinson
Patrick ewing
Dominique wilkins
Scottie pippen
Karl malone
John stockton
Shaq
clyde drexler
These off the top of my head were players frm the jordan era. Young brahs? Do you guys really think the new n.b.a stars could compete with that? Thats a lot of star power. Speaking frm actually growing up in the era, I miss the competitive nature that doesn't exihist anymore. Nowadays, guys dnt seem to try until the playoffs.

It's easy to name amazing players in retrospect. Obviously, we can't name stars to compete with that list because many of the great players in our generation are not even halfway done with their careers. Wait until everything is said and done for players like Durant, Rose, Lebron, Howard (as much as everyone hates him now), Wade, Rondo, Harden, etc...

I mean look at Kobe, would it have been fair back in 2006 when he was tearing up the league to say "pffft, who cares? he can't hang with players from the past." Look at how much he's accomplished since then: 1 MVP, 2 more championships with 2 FMVP, and a plethora of other all-star and individual accomplishments.

[xdestron]

I just get annoyed when people claim that players today wouldn't hack it in the 80's and 90's.

They wouldn't

[DasWunderBrah]

Game recognize Game.

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