calisthenics and street workout - different style of bodybuilding !!

[bevans100fitnes]

A lot of out of shape, strong people are surely going to disrespect you for this thread.

A lot of people can't understand that different people have different goals.

One thing to keep in mind is that the fatter you are, the worse of a workout you will get with your own bodyweight. You can't get creative if the basic movements (like pullups) are still in the 8 rep range and are still hard... If that's the case you can't move on to the crazy stuff.

[kanis999]

ok .. show us a clip you doing pistol squat on top of a bar ??? !! it's not that hard ... is it?

Bodybuilding progress isn't about how hard something is. It is pretty hard to punch myself in the face repeatedly too. It's about stimulating hypertrophy through isolating specific muscles through a range of exercises designed to increase anaerobic strength and speed under increasingly heavy loads.

I've been down the whole calisthenic/cross training road before. I did P90X for an entire year. Here's the difference between what P90X did and what listening to the folks on bodybuilding.com did.



Yes, that is me flexing as hard as I can after an entire year of P90X at very high intensity. It was hard as s@#$. But did it help? Nope.

[bevans100fitnes]

Yes what he asked is a bit irrelevant on a bodybuilding board. I ask the OP to send me a video of him frying an egg while doing pullups!

[Dopey001]

Depends on the goals... If the primary goal were to get shredded, and leg size didn't matter, it's deffinitely doable.

I've seen guys get their upper body very big doing body-ups etc down here on the beach.

As I stated in another thread though, even though you can do pistols and bulgarian split squats.... I can't figure a way to replicate the deadlift with bodyweight. Squat you can, sort of, by making it a 1 leg movement and increasing range of motion.

well bro .. what are you saying is true
i gues we can't replicate the deadlift with bodyweight !
this is my goal
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7...2014019565.jpg

[Dopey001]

A lot of out of shape, strong people are surely going to disrespect you for this thread.

A lot of people can't understand that different people have different goals.

One thing to keep in mind is that the fatter you are, the worse of a workout you will get with your own bodyweight. You can't get creative if the basic movements (like pullups) are still in the 8 rep range and are still hard... If that's the case you can't move on to the crazy stuff.

i'm not saying anything wrong i'm just telling you guys about this type of bodybuilding
i didn't talk badly about anything or anyone .. i respect all of you and i know that we have different goals but we all want to be the best we can be
and there is different ways to achieve that !!

[bevans100fitnes]

well bro .. what are you saying is true
i gues we can't replicate the deadlift with bodyweight !
this is my goal
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7...2014019565.jpg

Buddy, if that is your goal you can do it. As long as you understand you may have to combine advanced dieting and supplementation protocols (like those used by bodybuilders) with your bodyweight stuff.

If your cool only ever being as big as an olympic gymnast (who btw are stronger than 99% of the "internet bodybuilders" on here) then you can do it.

Diet is the key with getting shredded, tho. Just because you're not a bodybuilder, per se, does not mean the supplementation and nutrition is all that different.

[Dopey001]

Bodybuilding progress isn't about how hard something is. It is pretty hard to punch myself in the face repeatedly too. It's about stimulating hypertrophy through isolating specific muscles through a range of exercises designed to increase anaerobic strength and speed under increasingly heavy loads.

I've been down the whole calisthenic/cross training road before. I did P90X for an entire year. Here's the difference between what P90X did and what listening to the folks on bodybuilding.com did.



Yes, that is me flexing as hard as I can after an entire year of P90X at very high intensity. It was hard as s@#$. But did it help? Nope.

exactly .. but what's the point if you can lift weights and you look like a monster but you can't do 10 pull ups ??
how many muscle ups you can do ?? i go to the gym sometimes when it's raining but i lift my body only and i do push ups .. maybe calisthenics didn't work for you but for me it's going great .. you have a good body ... keep it up and good luck ^^

[kanis999]

exactly .. but what's the point if you can lift weights and you look like a monster but you can't do 10 pull ups ??
how many muscle ups you can do ?? i go to the gym sometimes when it's raining but i lift my body only and i do push ups .. maybe calisthenics didn't work for you but for me it's going great .. you have a good body ... keep it up and good luck ^^

Ah but I'm more concerned with appearance than how many muscle ups I can do. I thought appearance oriented training is what bodybuilding is all about. You look good too btw. VERY lean, I like that.

[Dopey001]

Buddy, if that is your goal you can do it. As long as you understand you may have to combine advanced dieting and supplementation protocols (like those used by bodybuilders) with your bodyweight stuff.

If your cool only ever being as big as an olympic gymnast (who btw are stronger than 99% of the "internet bodybuilders" on here) then you can do it.

Diet is the key with getting shredded, tho. Just because you're not a bodybuilder, per se, does not mean the supplementation and nutrition is all that different.

thx bro !! well that's my goal but i want to keep it natural without supplementation .. just a good diet and hard work and i'm doing well
i hope you the best i realy do .. keep it up and i hope you add some calisthenics to your workout !! it's fun and Effective ! good luck

[Dopey001]

Ah but I'm more concerned with appearance than how many muscle ups I can do. I thought appearance oriented training is what bodybuilding is all about. You look good too btw. VERY lean, I like that.

thx bro !! what is important is you look good it doesn't matter how much muscle ups you can do ... that's true .. it's all about bodybuilding !

[Concat]

Ah but I'm more concerned with appearance than how many muscle ups I can do. I thought appearance oriented training is what bodybuilding is all about. You look good too btw. VERY lean, I like that.

Suspected fake AVI. See previous posts.

[sum42]

did street workout in summer for 3 months.... gained a bit of muscle but yea i was getting strong fast.... from 12 pull ups to 26 in 3 months....

[jeffl1980]

Let me just bump this for dopey

Op quit being a troll and change the fake profile pic and quit upping your crap


This is the real OP (posted by him on a previous thread) note the long arms from the shoulder to the elbow. Also notice his neck and skinny back



This is OP (video posted by OP) notice again his long arms and his face!!



And then there is this pic who he "claims" is him. Notice the much shorter arms, necks do not match from above pics along with the face that does not match! and lets not forget about the tatoo that he says is a "fake one"



am I wrong people?

[jeffl1980]

Dopey will be sure to say I'm fat and need to lose weight...so here's my pic before he does.

Just finished up my bulk

[Joe513]

I happen to like both, there's no reason to trash one for ones goal. Hannibal to be is just as awesome are Arnold... But they have different goals in mind.

[bevans100fitnes]

The level of flaming and immaturity on this board is absolutely outrageous.

I give OP the benefit of the doubt as being a real person, because the same attempts have been made to discredit me (I am a trainer at a gym that trains over 30 professional fighters and has a celebrity clientelle too long to list)...

Basically the issue with bodyweight training is the weaker muscle groups (biceps, grip, triceps, abs, obliques) get a great workout, because they have adequate weight, but the large muscle groups (glutes, quads, hams, spinal erectors, traps) don't get a good workout, because you just can't hit them with enough tension to work the fast twitch fibers, with such little weight.

[jeffl1980]

The level of flaming and immaturity on this board is absolutely outrageous.

I give OP the benefit of the doubt as being a real person, because the same attempts have been made to discredit me (I am a trainer at a gym that trains over 30 professional fighters and has a celebrity clientelle too long to list)...

Basically the issue with bodyweight training is the weaker muscle groups (biceps, grip, triceps, abs, obliques) get a great workout, because they have adequate weight, but the large muscle groups (glutes, quads, hams, spinal erectors, traps) don't get a good workout, because you just can't hit them with enough tension to work the fast twitch fibers, with such little weight.

I can understand what you are saying, but why don't you go take a look at his previous post and threads. People who are posting their progress updates or being brave enough to post there over weight pictures asking for help...and what does he do? He puts them down saying they are fat and shouldn't be lifting weights because it will make them fatter. So my suggestion for you is to do a little research before calling people out and taking sides! Also the pic that he is using is a fake avi pic claiming it is him. This alone should get him kicked of this site. The pic has been proving fake, look at the above proof, if that’s not enough go to his previous post and you will find more or ask me and I can post it. Or maybe all reds just stick together? And one more question being that you are a trainer....in two months can someone change there body like dopey is claiming? NO!! Not even on AAS

[bevans100fitnes]

ok maybe i stand corrected. My answer was directed at the person he claims to be... which may or may not be real.

[jeffl1980]

ok maybe i stand corrected. My answer was directed at the person he claims to be... which may or may not be real.

no problem man, I'll give you some rep when I'm not on recharge...not sure if it will get you green though. Looking good though man (no homo)

[musclemanJMN]

I can understand what you are saying, but why don't you go take a look at his previous post and threads. People who are posting their progress updates or being brave enough to post there over weight pictures asking for help...and what does he do? He puts them down saying they are fat and shouldn't be lifting weights because it will make them fatter. So my suggestion for you is to do a little research before calling people out and taking sides! Also the pic that he is using is a fake avi pic claiming it is him. This alone should get him kicked of this site. The pic has been proving fake, look at the above proof, if that’s not enough go to his previous post and you will find more or ask me and I can post it. Or maybe all reds just stick together? And one more question being that you are a trainer....in two months can someone change there body like dopey is claiming? NO!! Not even on AAS

The part where you said
"ask me and I can post it"

[jeffl1980]

The part where you said
"ask me and I can post it"

Sure thing...

Dopeys real back from when he made his "back transformation thread" just 2 months ago. Note the moles on lower left and upper right, also note he has no lower back hair and that his arms arm very long.



Here is his fake avi pic. See how much shorted the arms arm. Also look at the placement of the fake moles (proof below) also notice the hair on the lower back.



And then there’s the moles. This is a zoomed in of the fake mole (upper right mole) you can see it was added to the photo (Photoshopped) . The mole is little squares that were added in Microsoft paint.



is that enough?

[strengthgainr]

I don't see why you have to be on one side of the fence or the other. I do believe calisthenics are killer for upper body development. Infuse them with powerlifts like deadlift and squats and you have a very effective exercise set.

Also, for those saying that calisthenics neglect the lower back, you're wrong. Planches and press ups require phenomenal lower back strength and endurance.

Stay strong
strengthgainer.com

[bevans100fitnes]

I don't think they're gonna hit the posterior chain like squats and deads though. We have a lot of these on southbeach:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw4jh-7yo28

As well as real gymnasts (I can tell because they are so short)... They do ridiculous things on the bars, you know bodyups where at the end they land standing on the pullup bar, doing backflips with twists down to the ground to land.

They all have small legs though. Think about it this way: Big legs are not only unecessary, big legs are dead weight when you are doing this type of gymnastics. Without a kip, if pullup-gymnastics is your training, leg muscle is counterproductive excess weight.

[Dopey001]

did street workout in summer for 3 months.... gained a bit of muscle but yea i was getting strong fast.... from 12 pull ups to 26 in 3 months....

great job man ... keep it up and good luck

[Dopey001]

I happen to like both, there's no reason to trash one for ones goal. Hannibal to be is just as awesome are Arnold... But they have different goals in mind.

exactly !! both are bodybuildersbut in different ways !!

[Dopey001]

ok maybe i stand corrected. My answer was directed at the person he claims to be... which may or may not be real.

hey man ... you r a trainer
and you know that haters are pathetic ... when they can't do something they said that no one can do it .. that's it what i did in 4 months he couldon't do in one year and that's why he is saying that this is not me
!!

[Dopey001]

I don't see why you have to be on one side of the fence or the other. I do believe calisthenics are killer for upper body development. Infuse them with powerlifts like deadlift and squats and you have a very effective exercise set.

Also, for those saying that calisthenics neglect the lower back, you're wrong. Planches and press ups require phenomenal lower back strength and endurance.

Stay strong
strengthgainer.com

thx man .. what you r saying is true .. in the end we all try to build a great body .. in different ways .. it doesn't matter

[Dopey001]

is that enough?

you r pathetic .. you know ??
go live your life .. that's me that's 4 months of hard work ....

[ZoranM]

that's me that's 4 months of hard work ....

love your nice ass <3
and you're thighs the size of your forearms. that's the way body should be, screw the flamers

[Dopey001]

love your nice ass <3
and you're thighs the size of your forearms. that's the way body should be, screw the flamers

let's see your legs !!