The Minotaur's Challenge and Progress.

**Bob45** · 05-06-2003, 12:36 PM

Minataur, you look like a big strong dude no matter what the numbers are? I'm sure a lot of guys say they would never mess with you! Good job.

**IPR** · 05-06-2003, 06:15 PM

Mino....yea eating out can be awkward at first, but it becomes second nature especially as the results start to show

Once people start understanding they accomodate you, its easier than eating with a vegiterian, and in most places there is something you can eat.

Also most places are happy enough to modify an order to suit, although being in Japan I still get odd looks when I saw I don't want rice ...... they think I'm ill or something

**TrishB** · 05-06-2003, 06:56 PM

Minotaur...if you maintain that upperbody and cut at the waist, you are going to have an incredible body.
Glad keto is going so well for you!
You have made IPR a happy man.

**Hibiscus09** · 05-06-2003, 08:13 PM

I just looked at this thread, saw that I had responded, but still hadn't seen the pics until now. I'm kind of loopy that way. LOL You have really put on a lot of mass -- you're doing great!!

I know you're loving Keto & I'm glad it's working for you. Keep up the good work!

**Minotaur** · 05-07-2003, 09:19 AM

Thanks guys and guyettes. The encouragement is most appreciated.

It's also sort of an incentive and motivation to keep improving.

Originally posted by TrishB
Minotaur...if you maintain that upperbody and cut at the waist, you are going to have an incredible body.
Glad keto is going so well for you!
You have made IPR a happy man.

Someone recently told me I actually have more of an impressive V taper than I give myself credit for. And not being a good poser, it's hard to see.

I have about 4-5" I want to lose from my waist. My chest is 46, and my waist is currently 39. If I can keep most of my upper body size (I do have some fat around my chest and upper back

), I'll be looking at a 12" drop from chest to waist. Not bad.

**Musicguy** · 05-07-2003, 09:44 AM

Great progress Minotaur,

I'm just getting caught up reading some of the different threads..... it's great to see so many people doing challenges and achieving new goals.

**Minotaur** · 05-15-2003, 02:15 PM

The diet is in the crapper, and the workouts are pfft. But for this week only.

See, my 'father-in-law' (I'm not married, but it's just easier to say 'xxx-in-law') passed away on Saturday. We knew it was coming at some point; he was very ill, in and out of the hospital and nursing home. In the end, at last he's free now.

So, with the funeral arrangements and what-not, the diet has gone to Hell. I've just been eating whatever I can whenever I can. The real problem is that I'm not eating enough. So I expect some fat and muscle to go bye-bye.

Well, there's always next week to start again... I'm just letting myself go this week.

**Musicguy** · 05-15-2003, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Minotaur
The diet is in the crapper, and the workouts are pfft. But for this week only.

See, my 'father-in-law' (I'm not married, but it's just easier to say 'xxx-in-law') passed away on Saturday. We knew it was coming at some point; he was very ill, in and out of the hospital and nursing home. In the end, at last he's free now.

So, with the funeral arrangements and what-not, the diet has gone to Hell. I've just been eating whatever I can whenever I can. The real problem is that I'm not eating enough. So I expect some fat and muscle to go bye-bye.

Well, there's always next week to start again... I'm just letting myself go this week.

It happens. Sorry to hear you've been through a rough time. I'm sure we've all been through times like these; take care of yourself and your loved ones, and you'll get back on track when the time is right. Keep your heart in the right place, and things will work out.

**Hibiscus09** · 05-15-2003, 03:46 PM

Sorry about your loss, Minotaur. My mom had a prolonged illness & I think I actually felt happy when she went to heaven & I knew she wasn't in pain anymore.

Don't worry about this week with your workouts & eating -- things happen that cause us to not be able to do it sometimes -- just keep moving forward.

**Bob45** · 05-15-2003, 05:31 PM

Sorry for the loss. One week is nothing.

**Kane Fan** · 05-16-2003, 12:18 AM

I love Minotuars
are you a AD&D gamer?

**Minotaur** · 05-16-2003, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Kane Fan
I love Minotuars
are you a AD&D gamer?

No, sorry... I don't have the time or patience for any kind of games. Even jigsaw puzzles, which are supposed to be relaxing turn me into a raging beast.

**TwoWalks** · 05-16-2003, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Minotaur
Well, there's always next week to start again... I'm just letting myself go this week.

Minotaur my Dad use to tell me something:

Any man can get knocked down at any time - The measure of a man is how quick he gets back up.

Your doing great and next week you will just work that much harder.

**Minotaur** · 05-16-2003, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by TwoWalks
Minotaur my Dad use to tell me something:

Any man can get knocked down at any time - The measure of a man is how quick he gets back up.

Your doing great and next week you will just work that much harder.

True, true. I think there is a Japanese proverb that goes something like "Fall 7 times, get up 8 times".

I don't feel like I've backslid or failed. Not just for one week. I just feel overwhelmed this week, between the funeral and being very busy at work. My bosses are great; this week at work was very challenging and stressful, but mainly because there was lots to do. It was a good kind of stress.

I just felt that the last thing I needed to stress over was my diet and workouts for one week. And having all you guys concur makes it easier.

**Eye2_Man** · 05-16-2003, 07:06 PM

Sorry to hear about your ex-father-in-law. You'll come back with a vengeance.

**Minotaur** · 05-19-2003, 05:14 PM

It was only a week's layoff, but it seemed like light years ago that I was in the gym last. Things are quickly settling down. I made up my mind to get back to the gym today and get the diet back on track. One thing I learned from last week's eating pattern is that carbs are out as a dietary staple. I'm now convinced that they have been the root of my (lack of) fat loss problem. I feel so swollen.

But anyhoo... I am back on keto track.

I did legs tonight, Max OT style...

Squats, warmup 225x8, 3 sets 245x6
Leg press 3 sets 540x6
Hack squat (machine) 3 sets 140x6

I was so happy to be back to a normal routine that I found myself looking around the gym and thinking to myself "God, I love this place".

**Hibiscus09** · 05-19-2003, 05:47 PM

LOL -- that's a lot different from the "Man, let me out of here!" way I felt today after being touched at the water fountain. LOL

Glad you're back at it!!

**Musicguy** · 05-19-2003, 05:56 PM

Way to go Minotaur; getting yourself back there is always the hardest part, so you can look forward and upwards now!

**IPR** · 05-19-2003, 07:28 PM

Mino.....its good to get back ain't it.

I've had the same experience when taking a week off keto, thinking it would be an excuse to indulge in the forbidden fruits of a carb life only to find all I wanted to do was get back to my keto foods.

**Bob45** · 05-19-2003, 08:13 PM

Glad to see you are back on track Mino.

**Gator** · 05-20-2003, 06:58 AM

Welcome back Mino

Gator

**Minotaur** · 05-20-2003, 07:28 AM

Thanks for the support and encouragement, guys.

Originally posted by IPR
Mino.....its good to get back ain't it.

I've had the same experience when taking a week off keto, thinking it would be an excuse to indulge in the forbidden fruits of a carb life only to find all I wanted to do was get back to my keto foods.

True dat.

I completely psyched myself over the weekend that come Monday, it was back to animal flesh and grease. And so it is.

And I'm walking like an old man from my legs workout last night. Like John Cougar Mellencamp said "it hurts so good".

**Hibiscus09** · 05-20-2003, 07:44 AM

Maybe ya'll wouldn't bloat up so badly from the carbs if you ate them more regularly. LOL

**Minotaur** · 05-20-2003, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Hibiscus09
Maybe ya'll wouldn't bloat up so badly from the carbs if you ate them more regularly. LOL

Been there, done that, didn't work. When I eat carbs, I get swollen, gassy (I always thought it was the protein), and IBS symptoms. Without the carbs, I get none of that. For a day or two after a carb up, I'm gassy and ****ing my brains out.

**Dutchman** · 05-20-2003, 11:36 AM

Good to see ya back at it with a vengeance Minataur. I know all too well the emotional drain you've experienced but your lifting can be an anchor in such storms. Go hells bells and remember we are all in your corner. Goodluck!

**Hibiscus09** · 05-20-2003, 11:55 AM

Awww, Minotaur -- what if I want to bake you some cookies?

LOL

**Minotaur** · 05-20-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by Hibiscus09
Awww, Minotaur -- what if I want to bake you some cookies? LOL

Saturday... cyclic ketogenic diet.

**Hibiscus09** · 05-20-2003, 01:16 PM

That's good -- you should have to do without cookies.

**kendo** · 05-20-2003, 02:19 PM

Sorry to hear about your sad loss Minotaur good to see you back on track. When your waist comed down we will all see a great v-taper with the shoulder development you have. Maybe shoot for a 32" waist might be a bit more hard work though?

**Minotaur** · 05-20-2003, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by kendo
Maybe shoot for a 32" waist might be a bit more hard work though?

I can only fantasize about getting down to a 32" waist. I think though, that the best I'd be able to do is 34-35", even getting fat way down. I've got short thick bones that make me generally wide. I was told this after x-rays at the chiropractor's office. It's OK though. That will still give me about a 12" drop from chest to waist.

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