Why do we have the same biomechanics and biochemistry? Why aren't we of a different design, composition and function?Originally Posted by nonAtlas
You said "other", but humans are not animals. You fail.
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10-29-2008, 08:42 AM #31Þórr vigi
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"Go home, have a beer and smash something. That's what I would do" - Unknown (but probably Thor).
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Originally Posted by bamatank
I see why you are choking that baby. After all, it is just an ordinary animal.
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10-29-2008, 08:44 AM #33Banned
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Originally Posted by Minotaur
Humans are spirit beings dwelling in bodies whose souls have the ability to choose to be guided by either the spirit or the body. Animals do not have that ability. They cannot think.
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10-29-2008, 08:46 AM #34Þórr vigi
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And this...Originally Posted by bamatank
Which applies to nonAtlas, Krane and An Hero:
Oops... my apologies...
To the real Moe, Larry and Curly for insulting them."Go home, have a beer and smash something. That's what I would do" - Unknown (but probably Thor).
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What? Choking?Originally Posted by nonAtlas
I see why you are choking that baby. After all, it is just an ordinary animal.
That baby is my daughter. That picture was taken shortly after we got home from the Hospital.
Yes all humans are animals
Notice the kingdom to which we belong in this taxonomy of the homo sapien.
Animalia (Kingdom)
Eumetazoa (Subregnum)
Bilateria [having bilateral symmetry]
Coelomata [...and a fluid-filled body cavity]
Deuterostomia (Superphylum)
Chordata (Phylum)
Craniata [animals with skulls]
Vertebrata (Subphylum) [...and backbones]
Gnathostomata (Infraphylum) [...and jaws]
Teleostomi [advanced fish and descendants]
Euteleostomi [bony vertebrates]
Sarcopterygii
Tetrapoda (Superclass) [...and four limbs]
Amniota (Series) [...and amniotic eggs]
Synapsida [mammal-like reptiles]
Mammaliaformes / Mammalia (Class) [all mammals]
Theria (Subclass)
Eutheria
Euarchontoglires (Superorder)
Euarchonta (Superorder)
Primates (Order)
Haplorrhini (Suborder)
Simiiformes (Infraorder) [apes and monkeys]
Catarrhini (Parvorder)
Hominoidea (Superfamily) [apes]
Proconsul africanus
Hominidae (Family) [great apes]
Homininae (Subfamily) [includes gorillas but not orangutans]
Pierolapithecus catalaunicus
Hominini (Tribe) [includes chimpanzees but not gorillas]
Sahelanthropus tchadensis, common ancestor with chimpanzees[citation needed]
Orrorin tugenensis, first species after split with chimpanzees[citation needed]
Hominina (Subtribe) [humans are the only surviving species]
Ardipithecus
Kenyanthropus
Australopithecines: includes Paranthropus and Australopithecus
Australopithecus
Paranthropus
Homo (Genus)
Homo habilis
Homo ergaster
Homo erectus
Homo heidelbergensis
Homo sapiens (Species)
Homo sapiens idaltu
Homo sapiens sapiens (Subspecies)"The best-laid schemes o mice an men Gang aft agley." Robert Burns
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rofl, so true!Originally Posted by Minotaur
And this...
Which applies to nonAtlas, Krane and An Hero:
Oops... my apologies...
To the real Moe, Larry and Curly for insulting them.
While you live, shine
Don't suffer anything at all;
Life exists only a short while
And time demands its toll.
B - 255 lbs
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D - 405 lbs
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As a fan of the Three Stooges I find this offensive.Originally Posted by Minotaur
And this...
Which applies to nonAtlas, Krane and An Hero:
Oops... my apologies...
To the real Moe, Larry and Curly for insulting them.
"The best-laid schemes o mice an men Gang aft agley." Robert Burns
"You can believe in stones as long as you don't throw them at me." -
"Some say he can swim seven lengths under water and he has webbed buttocks. All we know is, he's called The Stig."
"Some say that his skin is the texture of a dolphin's and that he has his own satellites. All we know is, he's called The Stig."
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10-29-2008, 08:49 AM #38Þórr vigi
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You're making this up as you go along. You didn't answer the question. I didn't say anything about spirits or souls. I asked why we have the same composition, biomechanics and biochemistry. Answer the question asked. And only the question asked. Don't spin.Originally Posted by nonAtlas
Humans are spirit beings dwelling in bodies whose souls have the ability to choose to be guided by either the spirit or the body. Animals do not have that ability. They cannot think.
"Go home, have a beer and smash something. That's what I would do" - Unknown (but probably Thor).
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10-29-2008, 08:50 AM #39Þórr vigi
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I did apologize to them.Originally Posted by bamatank
As a fan of the Three Stooges I find this offensive.
"Go home, have a beer and smash something. That's what I would do" - Unknown (but probably Thor).
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May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through
and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept
blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 5:23
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10-29-2008, 08:52 AM #41Banned
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Originally Posted by Minotaur
But I did, and what I said IS the answer. Too bad.
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10-29-2008, 08:53 AM #42Þórr vigi
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He's trailer park trash.Originally Posted by bamatank
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10-29-2008, 08:53 AM #43Registered User
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TrueOriginally Posted by Minotaur
"The best-laid schemes o mice an men Gang aft agley." Robert Burns
"You can believe in stones as long as you don't throw them at me." -
"Some say he can swim seven lengths under water and he has webbed buttocks. All we know is, he's called The Stig."
"Some say that his skin is the texture of a dolphin's and that he has his own satellites. All we know is, he's called The Stig."
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10-29-2008, 08:56 AM #44Þórr vigi
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No it's not. Just because those three entities are mentioned together still doesn't answer the question why our bodies are the same composition, biochemistry and biomechanics of (other) animals.Originally Posted by nonAtlas
But I did, and what I said IS the answer. Too bad.
Try again because you are 0 for 2. Too bad."Go home, have a beer and smash something. That's what I would do" - Unknown (but probably Thor).
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10-29-2008, 09:00 AM #45Registered User
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The best response to fools is silence. Let this one go.Originally Posted by Minotaur
"The best-laid schemes o mice an men Gang aft agley." Robert Burns
"You can believe in stones as long as you don't throw them at me." -
"Some say he can swim seven lengths under water and he has webbed buttocks. All we know is, he's called The Stig."
"Some say that his skin is the texture of a dolphin's and that he has his own satellites. All we know is, he's called The Stig."
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10-29-2008, 09:08 AM #46Þórr vigi
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I know... you are right.Originally Posted by bamatank
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"."Go home, have a beer and smash something. That's what I would do" - Unknown (but probably Thor).
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10-29-2008, 09:13 AM #47Registered User
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lolOriginally Posted by Minotaur
I know... you are right.
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience".
I like that."The best-laid schemes o mice an men Gang aft agley." Robert Burns
"You can believe in stones as long as you don't throw them at me." -
"Some say he can swim seven lengths under water and he has webbed buttocks. All we know is, he's called The Stig."
"Some say that his skin is the texture of a dolphin's and that he has his own satellites. All we know is, he's called The Stig."
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10-29-2008, 09:16 AM #48@___@
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Sure I think they have feelings, but I still eat them.
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Can you answer my question?Originally Posted by nonAtlas
You said "other", but humans are not animals. You fail.
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10-29-2008, 10:01 AM #50
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10-29-2008, 10:06 AM #51Registered User
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I'm pretty sure they do. They are self aware, though, depending on the animal, they have varying degrees of complex emotions based on the make up of their brain.Originally Posted by sheduma
"I feel myself so much a part of all life that I am not in the least concerned with the beginning or the end of the concrete existence of any particular person in this unending stream."
Albert Einstein
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10-29-2008, 10:09 AM #52Registered User
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Dualism violates the law of conservation of energy, and is in direct opposition of our current understanding of reality. Does that make it impossible, no, but it definitely takes some wind out of the dualism sails.Originally Posted by nonAtlas
Humans are spirit beings dwelling in bodies whose souls have the ability to choose to be guided by either the spirit or the body. Animals do not have that ability. They cannot think.
Oh, and animals do think. Most are as self aware as you or I."I feel myself so much a part of all life that I am not in the least concerned with the beginning or the end of the concrete existence of any particular person in this unending stream."
Albert Einstein
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10-29-2008, 10:24 AM #53
There thinking is very limited and they have no where near the capacity as us humans. Give me some examples as to why you think they are up to par with us.Originally Posted by cjh156
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I'm probably going to regret doing this but,Originally Posted by hank-williams
Hank, whyyyyyy do ya drink?
Whyyyyyy do you roll smoke?"The best-laid schemes o mice an men Gang aft agley." Robert Burns
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There is a difference between being self aware and having cognitive function on par with us. Their brains are much smaller.Originally Posted by hank-williams
"I feel myself so much a part of all life that I am not in the least concerned with the beginning or the end of the concrete existence of any particular person in this unending stream."
Albert Einstein
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10-29-2008, 10:31 AM #56Banned
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Originally Posted by cjh156
Wrong on each point. What you and the other materialists miss is that the spirit is spirit...as opposed to a physical/tangible or energy-based phenomenon, and as such no such "law" applies. Newton's laws do, though, make it impossible for the Religion of Evolutionism to be true. Sorry.
Oh, and animals do think.
They do not. Self-awareness or consciousness does not constitute thinking.
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WTF do Newtonian mechanics have to do with evolution?Originally Posted by nonAtlas
Last edited by Rune; 10-29-2008 at 10:37 AM.
Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. - Bruce Lee
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10-29-2008, 10:34 AM #58Banned
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Originally Posted by Minotaur
Yes it is, Bruce. That you fail or refuse to comprehend doesn't make it a matter of someone not answering you.
Just because those three entities are mentioned together still doesn't answer the question why our bodies are the same composition, biochemistry and biomechanics of (other) animals.
Biology is a physical phenomenon. It does not address matters of the spirit.
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10-29-2008, 10:38 AM #59Þórr vigi
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Oh hai Randie.Originally Posted by nonAtlas
So why do we have a biological form identical to the "lower" animals to house our "spirits"? Can you just answer that?Biology is a physical phenomenon. It does not address matters of the spirit.
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Originally Posted by Rune
Entropy. We have been through this several times, Ruined, and all we have from those episodes is your resentment of God. Launch your own thread if you want to, as there aren't many on the mythology of the Religion of Evolutionism.
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