Oh sorry, I didn't realise you were a Rugby League player.Originally Posted by BobisMighty
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05-25-2010, 09:27 PM #5251aesthLetic
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They're generally referring to more advanced plyometrics like depth jumps and single leg jumps and bounds.Originally Posted by danhack
If you want to improve vertical jump but have poor strength levels (less than 1.5x BW squat), you should focus most your attention on strength training, but still do some more basic plyometric drills (e.g. ricochet jumps, on-box jumps, squat jumps etc.) to improve RFD (explosive power) and/or maintain/improve movement efficiency.strengthreview.net
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05-25-2010, 11:55 PM #5253Registered User
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What is a good vert and 40 time .
I am 15 6'1" 240lbs. I went and got evaluated and had a 26" vert and ran a 5.45 40. The guy said I did alot of things wrongs especially on take off and not moving arms right. My 10 yrd was 1.70 and 20 yrd was 3.2. Iam just starting a training program to fix issues . My questions is what kind of gains are realisitc for me to expect over summer. Thanks
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05-26-2010, 06:34 AM #5254Registered User
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State of origin 1 what a game!
I like the New South Wales team especially Anthony Watmough hes such a work horse!
The upcoming battles for the next decade between jamal "igris" or however its spelt against Inglis. Two Big indignous bashin each other!
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05-26-2010, 07:47 AM #5255Registered User
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Yea i saw that, oh how i wanted NSW to come back and win just to piss in Lockyers face lol
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05-26-2010, 09:43 AM #5256Registered User
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piss in billy slaters face he jus tears teams up. Queensland didnt even have Cameron Smith playing and still dominated.Originally Posted by brockles
When is the next match next wednesday?
Also was disappointed at the lack of fisticuffs...
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05-26-2010, 10:03 AM #5257Registered User
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Game 2 16th JuneOriginally Posted by Bignik92
Game 3 7th July
Was a nice little game.
Kyle Eastmond > Rugby League lol
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05-26-2010, 11:37 AM #5258Registered User
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I'm starting college after the summer and talked to some of the coaches about walking on. They said I had a good skill set to build on but needed to work and my size and jumping. I started the VJB and also put together a workout plan as follows:
Sun:Off
Mon:Shoulders/Triceps...Plyometrics
Tue:Off
Wed:Legs...Plyometrics
Thur:Chest
Fri: Off
Sat: Back/Biceps...Plyometrics
I guess my question would be is this too much? I tried my legs after plyo and was TOAST! Could I just do and upper/lower body split with the plyo and still gain size? Or cut back on something?
Thanks for any help and advice.Results=YOUR determination, not others info
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05-26-2010, 11:40 AM #5259Registered User
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I'm starting college after the summer and talked to some of the coaches about walking on. They said I had a good skill set to build on but needed to work and my size and jumping. I started the VJB and also put together a workout plan as follows:
Sun:Off
Mon:Shoulders/Triceps...Plyometrics
Tue:Off
Wed:Legs...Plyometrics
Thur:Chest
Fri: Off
Sat: Back/Biceps...Plyometrics
I guess my question would be is this too much? I tried my legs after plyo and was TOAST! Could I just do and upper/lower body split with the plyo and still gain size? Or cut back on something?
Thanks for any help and advice.Results=YOUR determination, not others info
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05-26-2010, 01:01 PM #5260Registered User
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Haha, I'll guess I'll keep doing what I am thenOriginally Posted by joakman
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05-26-2010, 03:39 PM #5261That's how you get ants.
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you don't have to be league to play smash ball. smash into opposition, suck in their forwards, smash smash smash, they over commit, boom ball flashes out to the backs and they take advantage of overload and score. we only do it with teams with a crappy pack.Originally Posted by BreezerD
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05-26-2010, 04:42 PM #5262Team Gynecologist
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Yeah, and also someone in the first XV as flanker isn't going to be a League player.
My log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=120990011
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05-26-2010, 05:55 PM #5263Registered User
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How beneficial is working out with a weight vest?
And are ankle weight bad for you?
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05-26-2010, 06:12 PM #5264Registered User
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Or you do it when your forwards are as heavy as your packOriginally Posted by BobisMighty
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05-26-2010, 07:28 PM #5265aesthLetic
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Yeah, but having a scrum 5m out and trying "a quick pass to the 12 so he can smash over" is just ridiculous... unless your 12 is Jonah Lomu and their 10 and 12 are 16-year-old 6'4" 160lbers with two dislocated shoulders...Originally Posted by BobisMighty
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05-26-2010, 07:38 PM #5266That's how you get ants.
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well seeing as you weren't at the game, didn't see the opposing side, didn't see our inside center, i don't think you're in a place to judge our strategy.Originally Posted by BreezerD
especially as it wasn't the size of our center but his hands that cost us the play haha.MISC STRENGTH CREW
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05-26-2010, 08:19 PM #5267aesthLetic
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I understand if it's a quick crash ball as part of an intricately-worked multi-phase set play, but expecting the 12 to be able to make a linebreak (or whatever it was you were expecting) seems very unrealistic... Even then, you'd hope you'd have dummy runners in some form coming off the 10 so that the move isn't just completely telegraphed...Originally Posted by BobisMighty
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05-26-2010, 11:03 PM #52688 Man
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Everyone's a professional now ehOriginally Posted by BreezerD
You're 18 ffs
maybe get some experience before you start picking apart tactics
so maybe a direct to 12 is not the cookie cutter set play for a scrum 5, who cares
if it works it worksPosition: Number 8 & Lock
Height: 6'4
Weight: 105kg
"Rugby players are born and made into Athletes"
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05-27-2010, 12:22 AM #5269Registered User
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Originally Posted by BreezerD
Your chatting pure bull****. "I'm going to usE loads of rugby termoligy and try to make my self seem like a good player to a buntch of guys on a forum" what on earth is wrong with a direct pass to 12 5meters out to try and crash it over?? Nothing. See it happen all the time☆☆☆υк ¢яєω☆☆☆
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05-27-2010, 01:57 AM #5270I dunno why your bothering to pick an argument over this, but ill support you in terms of the fact that running a crash ball on a scrum 5m's out isn't exactly ingenuity or dynamic rugby - its very old fashioned and really smacks of the team running out of ideas....Originally Posted by BreezerD
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05-27-2010, 03:09 AM #5271Registered User
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Are you serious? Granted we're coming to the end of this phase as 12's are gradually becoming where the ball hits everytime... at least in welsh rugby. It used to be 13 would be your quick man whereas you'd have a big inside centre, there are still lots of big inside centres around that given thew crash ball continuously. Even if the 12 doesn't score he will most likely cross the gain line which is all you need from a crash ball. From 5 metres out there's no point in spreading it wide and 8 pick-up-and-go should be killed straight off with everyone so bunched for the scrum. Granted dummy runners can help but you don't need that if you rely on your inside centre being quick and strong (if they aren't they why are they a.) playing rugby b.) playing in the centre!)Originally Posted by BreezerD
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05-27-2010, 03:10 AM #5272Registered User
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Yeah fair enough, but old fashioned rugby gets you trys! lolOriginally Posted by monatu
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05-27-2010, 03:34 AM #5273Sleepy moderator
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wow... teams should play to their strengths... simple as that and the other teams weaknesses...
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05-27-2010, 09:25 AM #5274Registered User
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I think legs after plyo is a bit much. I typically do plyos on nonlifting or light lifting days. Also a lot depends on the volume you are using. Many people over do the plyos because they don't realize the damage that the exercises do to their muscles. I keep plyos to a just a couple of sets and just a few exercises and plenty of recovery. That makes sure that each rep is as explosive as possible and you want to do these exercises with max power/explosion.Originally Posted by pwrend
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05-27-2010, 09:54 AM #5275Registered User
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my 2 cents
This is a really rough outline of what I do. I took some of my college football and track workouts and kind of combined them to make what I feel is one of the best workouts for power/speed/vertical improvement.
Monday - Olympic Lifts / Plyos / Upper Body Weight Circuit
Tuesday - Agility Drills / Short Acceleration Sprints w/Sled /
Wednesday - Plyos / Medicine Ball Circuit
Thursday - Longer Interval Sprints
Friday - Olympic Lifts / Plyos / Upper Body Weight Circuit
Saturday - Agility Drills / 110m Conditioning
My Stats
Vert - 46"
40 - 4.29 (laser timed)
Broad Jump - 11'9"
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05-27-2010, 11:39 AM #5276Registered User
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Good Stuff!
Now that is a workout that looks like it will get you some good results! Which types of lifts are you doing for upper body. I am guessing that Olympics are Clean, Snatch, and anything else? What is the longest interval you run (400)? Sounds very good though. Is Sunday an off day or do you do active recovery? Sorry for all the questions, just curious.Originally Posted by Mac85
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05-27-2010, 12:07 PM #5277married to squats
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when my trinity team started playing this it worked, when i played at accies i didn't work, both teams have very good 12's for their respective league.......also when you play in a pack with a backrow that balls up to walk over scrums you start going to your 12.Originally Posted by BreezerD
whats your ideal play from a 5m scrum....push over? set strike move for the backs in the corner?, backrow move?people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"
if your family was captured and you were told you needed to put 100 pounds onto your max squat within two months or your family would be executed, would you squat once per week? Something tells me that you'd start squatting every day
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05-27-2010, 12:16 PM #5278Strongman rugger
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Spin it. Let the fullback find the gap and insert. If he doesn't find it, the loose forwards are there to ruck or strike on 2nd phase.Originally Posted by toad1
If it's a little further out than 5 m, 8 man pick. 8 and flank run at fly half to try and draw in an extra defender. Exploit the overload in the backline.
Ultimately, it's more about the execution than it is the strategy, though a crap strategy certainly won't help you. It's rugby, not rocket surgery.Bravery and stupidity are often synonymous. So are cowardice and intelligence.
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05-27-2010, 12:30 PM #5279Registered User
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As I've said before, some people live in reality.Originally Posted by Mac85
VERY few NFL players have gone below a 40 time of 4.30, VERY few professional Basketballers/High Jumps can vert 46" and I seriously doubt anyone could do aq standing jump of 4 meters long.COMPETITION BESTS:
4kg shot - 13.70m
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1.5kg discus (U17) - 32.60m
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5kg hammer (U17) - 30.49m (one turn)
6kg hammer (JUN) - 27.03m (one turn)
800g javelin (U17) - 20.05m
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Want a 16m 6kg throw by next year.
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05-27-2010, 01:42 PM #5280Registered User
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Here is a great video and game from the archives
It's the final of the 1996 Middlesex RU 7's tournament at Twickenham in front of over 60,000+ fans.
The Wigan Warriors rugby league team enter into the RU 7's tournament having never played the game before and beat all challengers to make the final against the London Wasps. Here is the game. The Wigan team contains greats like Offiah, a young Jason Robinson, Andy Farrell, Gary Connolly, Shaun Edwards and Kris Radlinski et al.
part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aYbLrhhQ5c (if I embed it shows the score)
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