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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    it seemed the government then truly had the best interest of the people in mind when crafting legislation, and had an honest worry about any government getting to the point where it was a power unto itself.
    I'm not sure how someone can definitively speak on the "interest" of the nation during a period in which they weren't even alive. At best, you could parrot the information written about the period from someone who was, but that wouldn't make you enough of an authority on the subject to argue with anyone about it.
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    Originally Posted by SquatTilYouDrop View Post
    I'm kind of pissed, I wasn't included in MJs worst list.

    I'm losing my touch.
    Tough break, Squatty.

    If it's any consolation, in your heyday you were one of the worst. Times change, and if you have to change with them. No matter how bad you are, there will always be someone worse than you gunning for your spot. The torch has been passed.

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    Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick View Post
    next time just leave that fcking novel in there.
    Nah. Everything I read from the Founding Fathers indicates that those were some pretty smart sumb!tches.
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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    Nah. Everything I read from the Founding Fathers indicates that those were some pretty smart sumb!tches.
    I wonder what the founders would think of the firearms that are available to people today.

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    Good stuff in that post, but I have to ask whether or not the bearing of arms to stop a tyrannical government isn't a bit outdated by technology.

    The government today has fighter jets, stealth bombers, drones, flak armor and fully automatic rifles, etc.

    Not much a guy with a shotgun is going to be able to do against that?
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    Originally Posted by mjw8204 View Post
    Tough break, Squatty.

    If it's any consolation, in your heyday you were one of the worst. Times change, and if you have to change with them. No matter how bad you are, there will always be someone worse than you gunning for your spot. The torch has been passed.
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    I can live with that.

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    Originally Posted by mjw8204 View Post
    I wonder what the founders would think of the firearms that are available to people today.
    They'd probably all agree that frep should delete more posts.
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    Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick View Post
    They'd probably all agree that frep should delete more posts.
    I think not sir. They would support my freedom of post.
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    Originally Posted by mjw8204 View Post
    I wonder what the founders would think of the firearms that are available to people today.
    I think the principle that the people have as much "firepower" as the government is actually more out of balance today than it was in their time. IE: the government has more power to be "tyrannical" now due to all the weapons they have that the populace does not.




    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    Good stuff in that post, but I have to ask whether or not the bearing of arms to stop a tyrannical government isn't a bit outdated by technology.

    The government today has fighter jets, stealth bombers, drones, flak armor and fully automatic rifles, etc.

    Not much a guy with a shotgun is going to be able to do against that?

    True. There's no doubt that the Founding Fathers desired the people to be able to effectively resist the government, so I guess the argument would be that the people should have access to even deadlier weapons, if anything. But I'm not really trying to argue the point either way.

    I do appreciate, however, that the "government" back then was not about furthering its own power, but actually limiting it. Refreshing take on things, IMO.
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    Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick View Post
    They'd probably all agree that frep should delete more posts.
    lol....

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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    True. There's no doubt that the Founding Fathers desired the people to be able to effectively resist the government, so I guess the argument would be that the people should have access to even deadlier weapons, if anything.
    Wait, so you don't have a squadron of F-35 Lightning II's in an aircraft hanger in your backyard?
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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    Wait, so you don't have a squadron of F-35 Lightning II's in an aircraft hanger in your backyard?
    I did, but they were "lost" in an unfortunate accident.


    Yea, definitely lost.




    Yea, that's the ticket.
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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    I did, but they were "lost" in an unfortunate accident.


    Yea, definitely lost.




    Yea, that's the ticket.
    Ahh yeah. I hear ya. Mine were stolen. Bastards made away with all of my armament too.
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    Went and watched the Hobbit tonight. Here is my thoughts:

    The Hobbit was good ****. As a person who has never read any of the Tolkien books and only loosely watched/followed the LotR movies, this one was on point. IMO, much better pacing than the LotR movies. I'm thinking ol' Petey Jax learned where he f*cked up with the boring ass LotR movies (especially the extended editions).
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Went and watched the Hobbit tonight. Here is my thoughts:

    The Hobbit was good ****. As a person who has never read any of the Tolkien books and only loosely watched/followed the LotR movies, this one was on point. IMO, much better pacing than the LotR movies. I'm thinking ol' Petey Jax learned where he f*cked up with the boring ass LotR movies (especially the extended editions).
    This is exactly the opposite opinion of everyone I've talked to that's seen it.

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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    Good stuff in that post, but I have to ask whether or not the bearing of arms to stop a tyrannical government isn't a bit outdated by technology.

    The government today has fighter jets, stealth bombers, drones, flak armor and fully automatic rifles, etc.

    Not much a guy with a shotgun is going to be able to do against that?
    If only the insurgents in Iraq/Afghanistan knew that... just think of all the time/energy/money/lives we've wasted!!!
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    Originally Posted by Ctrainer View Post
    You mean re-enlisted, right?
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    But I thought he just got out?

    Or are you just being contrary for the sake of being contrary?
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    Shouples can clarify, but I believe he was explaining why he originally enlisted, not meaning to suggest that he had recently re-enlisted. I can see how his use of "just" caused confusion, but that's my interpretation.
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    Originally Posted by medjen View Post
    This is exactly the opposite opinion of everyone I've talked to that's seen it.

    (I haven't, yet)
    Yeah, when my coworker told me he wanted to go see it I was like "ehhh... from what I've heard....." and he was a little bummed. I even gave him sh*t about how i was going to be bored for 3 hours as we drove there.

    I liked it. I also think, there is a chance that it being long movies will help include all those details that are always left out of books, that the book fans are like "Z0MG!!11! How could they leave that out?!?!?"

    I'm not sure if this book should be three movies, but at least what I saw up until, it wasn't slow or drag on. The only part I feel was relatively unnecessary was the encounter between Smeagle/Gollem and Bilbo, but it explains the acquisition of the ring... so.... it was needed.

    The theater I was at gave an intermission at the midway point which was great. I was needed to pee for 15 minutes prior to that and was trying to anticipate a slow section where I could leave and not risk missing anything (but again, due to the great pacing, I was never sure where a slow period would be).
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    Went and watched the Hobbit tonight. Here is my thoughts:

    The Hobbit was good ****. As a person who has never read any of the Tolkien books and only loosely watched/followed the LotR movies, this one was on point. IMO, much better pacing than the LotR movies. I'm thinking ol' Petey Jax learned where he f*cked up with the boring ass LotR movies (especially the extended editions).
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    Thanks for letting me know when to stop reading.
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    Originally Posted by medjen View Post
    This is exactly the opposite opinion of everyone I've talked to that's seen it.

    (I haven't, yet)
    I found it much more enjoyable than the LOTR trilogy so far. Good flick imho!

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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    I found it much more enjoyable than the LOTR trilogy so far. Good flick imho!
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    You clearly have abso-fcking-lutely no clue what you're talking about.
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    You clearly have abso-fcking-lutely no clue what you're talking about.
    This is a marked deviation from the norm.
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    Originally Posted by theshoupguy View Post
    You clearly have abso-fcking-lutely no clue what you're talking about.
    Have you seen the movie?

    LotR movies are boooorrrriiinnnng. Especially the extended edition. Dear f*cking lord, I wanted to kill myself during 2/3 of each movie. Randall sums up the series best in Clerks 2.


    there wasn't so much damn walking. When there was, they included fights, instead of pairing it up with more walking like in LotR.
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    I found it much more enjoyable than the LOTR trilogy so far. Good flick imho!
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