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    way to go, I did that on Saturday! Free money is good!
    Yes, yes, yes it is!!! It's about time something started to go right!!
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    I feel awesome right now just got back from the casino and I tripled my money tonight!!

    I'm on a roll this week!!
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    Yes, yes, yes it is!!! It's about time something started to go right!!
    Agreed on that! How much did you start with? I turned 100 into 282.
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    Originally Posted by marcodeniro View Post
    Hell to the yeah
    HAHA.. I also placed third in the Fat Boys Rib eating contest!

    The fact that I placed should prob scare ya'll!! First and second place went to guys weighing like 280! I looked small in with that bunch!!

    OMG though I've had a stomach every since! I still have a stomach this morning!


    Originally Posted by blsmith View Post
    Agreed on that! How much did you start with? I turned 100 into 282.
    I went in with $500 to play and left with $2,000 but I wasn't down more then 20 bucks all night! By ny second bet I was already up money and ahead in the game.

    It was my lucky night I guess!!
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    45 min trail ride.. not an easy ride considering all the slush and mud..

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    Originally Posted by grace_ou View Post
    HAHA.. I also placed third in the Fat Boys Rib eating contest!

    The fact that I placed should prob scare ya'll!! First and second place went to guys weighing like 280! I looked small in with that bunch!!

    OMG though I've had a stomach every since! I still have a stomach this morning!




    I went in with $500 to play and left with $2,000 but I wasn't down more then 20 bucks all night! By ny second bet I was already up money and ahead in the game.

    It was my lucky night I guess!!
    Sounds like a great night I am looking for a night like that
    On a side note
    As need to talk to my dietician about Ms3
    as I did try MS1 here and there.
    What is the profile of it so she can determine if I can take it or not.
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    Originally Posted by JSasha View Post
    Sounds like a great night I am looking for a night like that
    On a side note
    As need to talk to my dietician about Ms3
    as I did try MS1 here and there.
    What is the profile of it so she can determine if I can take it or not.
    I actually have not gotten the MS3 yet,, so I don't have all the dirty little details but I'll get Pete in here to explain them to us! Maybe he has a profile of the ingredients he can post. I would love to see that myself!
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    New bench and squat rack..



    Right now I have to slide the bench out to use the squat rack but it works.. agin it's mostly for when the gym is closed.



    and of coarse I have the road bike parked for spinning till winter is over..



    And I found a new house today with alot more room to set up in so that will be nice once we get moved in.. the puppy want be a problem there, so the kids will be happy.

    I know pics are kinda ****ty.. I'll post better ones later..
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    Originally Posted by grace_ou View Post
    I actually have not gotten the MS3 yet,, so I don't have all the dirty little details but I'll get Pete in here to explain them to us! Maybe he has a profile of the ingredients he can post. I would love to see that myself!
    Introducing MUSCLESPEED™ v3 (MS3)! You saw it here first folks. Officially announced, for the first time anywhere, in Gracie’s thread!

    Bottle/label Changes
    • Switch to a 250cc bottle – 50cc more to accommodate more material
    • MS3 can be distinguished over MS2 from the silver band at the bottom which reads “ Dramatically Explodes Neuromuscular Performance” and the changes to the Supplement Facts

    Ingredient profile changes
    Hard decisions had to be made with MS3. Given the limitations of costs and the capacity to cram material in the tabs, only the ingredients with the highest ‘impact’ made the cut. Also, some ingredients were too good to pass-up and made their way in MS3. So, after much debate and careful consideration, here are the changes to the formula:

    Vit C & E were removed in favor of other materials (or increased dosages) that better addressed the products objectives. Besides, most people get enough through their diets and some even supplement with these.
    Beta Alanine was increased. The max MS dose would still be about 33% lower than the dosages used in a popular study. The original intent was to remove BA, but that would have been a mistake since BA increases Carnosine levels over time. So, it tends to accumulate in muscle. MS comes in tabs, thus taking a little longer to dissolve and absorb, it’s possible that your body may make better use of the BA vs using a powder. In addition, if the product is used as directed, the max daily dose (4 tabs) should be staggered with the second dose after about 5 hours. This should help with BA uptake. The real limitation with further upping BA is the size of the tabs.
    Caffeine Anhydrous was reduced by 25mg/dose . With MS2, using of up to 4 tabs/day would bring the benefits of caffeine at the threshold limit of what research suggests is beneficial. Crossing that point may negatively impact performance. However, for some it may already get in the way… A reduction of 25mg guarantees the maximum benefit this ingredient. Caffeine, perhaps more than some other ingredients, right dosing is key.
    PC (derived from purified lecithin) was replaced in favor of much higher Acetyl-L-Carnitine dosage. ALCAR is more effective at raising acetylcholine levels than PC. It also has some amazing properties. See the Science page for more details: http://www.musclespeed.net/Speed-Supplement-Science.htm
    N-Acetyl-Tyrosine was upped significantly as it a better precursor to dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine than Vit C
    Geranium Oil Extract was replaced with DLPA. Geranium oil (Methylhexanamine or 1,3 D..)is specifically mentioned in the WADA 2010. DLPA has some very interesting properties: reduces chronic pain, fights depression, muscle cramps, soreness, and migraines through the release of endorphins. It acts as a pain killer and gives you a euphoric feeling. Results improve with use.
    R-ALA is now exclusively used in MS3. The R-form is more useful to the body than the S-Isomer. By switching exclusively to the R-Form, we dramatically increased the usable dose of ALA in MS3 vs MS2 .
    NAC was introduced to MS3 because enhances muscle cysteine and glutathione availability and attenuates fatigue during prolonged exercise in endurance-trained individuals. NAC is known for its positive effects on muscle trauma caused by lifting weights or intense cardio training. This highly bio-available form L-cysteine assists in combating exercise-induced damage to muscle tissue, it also helps detoxify the liver, build connective tissue, fight viral infections, helps fight ageing, and aids in joint health. You guys will be able to read more on the product site when the changes are uploaded by the end of the week.
    Capsicum annuum was added to the new formula to improve digestion, increase thermogenesis, act as an anti inflammatory, reduce pain, and much more…

    I believe this sums up all the changes. The end result is a superior product with research significant dosages. The exception, of course, is the BA but for the reasons that were previously stated. All the materials used in MS3 (and previous versions) are of the highest quality and potency available for maximum effectiveness. In order to preserve the effectiveness of the product, it is manufactured in small batches with exp dates which are almost 2 years away. It doesn’t get fresher than that! Also, MS3 costs a little over 10% more to manufacture vs Ms2 but will sell for the same price. 2010 sales should be significantly higher vs 2009 and the difference will be made through higher volume of sales. As always, the product is guaranteed satisfaction for 90-days.

    Any way, I just want to thank you guys because it’s feedback from people like you (including the reps, and other athletes)that drive the evolution of the product. Just in 2009, about 50 people got to log MUSCLESPEED and post about their experience with the product.

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    Originally Posted by marcodeniro View Post
    looks really nice
    Sup? The MS3 looks great I cann't wait to try it!! I'm a little sad to see the Geranium go,, but there's no arguing with Wada! LOL
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    Originally Posted by marcodeniro View Post
    looks really nice
    IMO, the best one yet!

    Originally Posted by grace_ou View Post
    Sup? The MS3 looks great I cann't wait to try it!! I'm a little sad to see the Geranium go,, but there's no arguing with Wada! LOL
    Yeah, I can't wait for you to try it either! I got word earlier that manufacturing just shipped out MS3. I expect it to arrive at the warehouse around mid next week. By the end of next week, your bottles should ship right to your door. Curious development: Because bb.com is about to run of of MS2, a small qty was shipped to them Fed-Ex next day service. So, by tomorrow evening, all bottles shipped from bb.com will be MS3.

    Yeah, I'm kinda sad about the Geranium as well. It could not be avoided right now. Not only does MS attract fighters, bb'ers, PL'er, but the track guys have taken a liking to it as well, and thus my headaches for the last few months! . DLPA will do a lot more for serious athletes...

    One thing though: We did not have enough time to BSCG certify the product due to the delays, and as such, are making no claims as to the product's compliance with WADA. In light of recent events, I think that no company can make that claim unless their product is continuously certified by a reputable authority in testing. Cross-contamination of the raw materials can, and does sometimes happen, regardless of all the measures taken.

    Any way, MS3 will kick ass!
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    Originally Posted by grace_ou View Post
    New bench and squat rack..



    Right now I have to slide the bench out to use the squat rack but it works.. agin it's mostly for when the gym is closed.



    and of coarse I have the road bike parked for spinning till winter is over..



    And I found a new house today with alot more room to set up in so that will be nice once we get moved in.. the puppy want be a problem there, so the kids will be happy.

    I know pics are kinda ****ty.. I'll post better ones later..
    Very nice equipment. Me likes your bike. .
    Moving? Give me a heads-up when you do so that we don't ship product to your old address.
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    Kinda surprised to see NAC in there but I think it is a nice addition to an already solid product!

    Oh and yes I'm jealous of the new bench and squat rack Gracie
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    Originally Posted by accelerative View Post
    Very nice equipment. Me likes your bike. .
    Moving? Give me a heads-up when you do so that we don't ship product to your old address.
    I got the new apt today but I want actually be moving for another 4 weeks! That bike doesn't see much other then the trainer! LOL It's a good basic road bike but I much prefer the trail bikes, even for the roads. I have Tammaso Advance series race bike but I only ride it when I race,, spends most of it's time in storage.
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    Originally Posted by mavmech13 View Post
    Kinda surprised to see NAC in there but I think it is a nice addition to an already solid product!

    Oh and yes I'm jealous of the new bench and squat rack Gracie
    Thanks! It's a nice set up for home,, I thought about going with a straight up power rack, a cage but I do my heavy lifting in the gym so I didn't think it was necessary. I just like having something at home for days when I cann't get in the gym or ya know the occasional middle of the night need to workout that I sometimes get!.
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    Originally Posted by mavmech13 View Post
    Kinda surprised to see NAC in there but I think it is a nice addition to an already solid product!

    Oh and yes I'm jealous of the new bench and squat rack Gracie
    Muscular endurance, among it's many benefits, is important for serious athletes. Also NAC has research to back it's effectiveness. What are your thoughts about NAC?
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    IMO, the best one yet!



    Yeah, I can't wait for you to try it either! I got word earlier that manufacturing just shipped out MS3. I expect it to arrive at the warehouse around mid next week. By the end of next week, your bottles should ship right to your door. Curious development: Because bb.com is about to run of of MS2, a small qty was shipped to them Fed-Ex next day service. So, by tomorrow evening, all bottles shipped from bb.com will be MS3.

    Yeah, I'm kinda sad about the Geranium as well. It could not be avoided right now. Not only does MS attract fighters, bb'ers, PL'er, but the track guys have taken a liking to it as well, and thus my headaches for the last few months! . DLPA will do a lot more for serious athletes...

    One thing though: We did not have enough time to BSCG certify the product due to the delays, and as such, are making no claims as to the product's compliance with WADA. In light of recent events, I think that no company can make that claim unless their product is continuously certified by a reputable authority in testing. Cross-contamination of the raw materials can, and does sometimes happen, regardless of all the measures taken.

    Any way, MS3 will kick ass!
    I do always make a point of reminding people that any time you take a sup requardless of it's certification there is a small risk of being popped on drug test.. sometimes the supps even when they are not a banned substance will look like one and on occasions but rarely it will cause a false positive.

    And different testers look for different things. It's always important to check with the group/federation whoever does the testing .. to see what they look for and what's ok before choosing a supplement.
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    I am a fan of NAC as I think it aids in recovery. It boost immune systems
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    Muscular endurance, among it's many benefits, is important for serious athletes. Also NAC has research to back it's effectiveness. What are your thoughts about NAC?
    With all the benefits of NAC that stretch beyond the athletic world I think it's a great addition! With the amount of things some of us put into our bodies it's kinda nice knowing there's a bit of support for your liver in there
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    Thanks! It's a nice set up for home,, I thought about going with a straight up power rack, a cage but I do my heavy lifting in the gym so I didn't think it was necessary. I just like having something at home for days when I cann't get in the gym or ya know the occasional middle of the night need to workout that I sometimes get!.
    I know what you mean. Plus there's just some days I really want to go to the gym but I don't want to go ya know. Having a set up like that would be really nice for those days
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    Originally Posted by marcodeniro View Post
    I am a fan of NAC as I think it aids in recovery. It boost immune systems
    Oh yeah, plus a lot more! Check out the product site in a couple of days, the new updates will be there including the new research.

    Originally Posted by mavmech13 View Post
    With all the benefits of NAC that stretch beyond the athletic world I think it's a great addition! With the amount of things some of us put into our bodies it's kinda nice knowing there's a bit of support for your liver in there
    It can't be worse than alcohol for the liver. lol!
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    I do always make a point of reminding people that any time you take a sup requardless of it's certification there is a small risk of being popped on drug test.. sometimes the supps even when they are not a banned substance will look like one and on occasions but rarely it will cause a false positive.
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    Originally Posted by accelerative View Post
    Oh yeah, plus a lot more! Check out the product site in a couple of days, the new updates will be there including the new research.



    It can't be worse than alcohol for the liver. lol!
    That's what I'm saying, NAC is actually good for you liver so seeing in the MS3 is a very nice surprise
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    That's what I'm saying, NAC is actually good for you liver so seeing in the MS3 is a very nice surprise
    It's funny, why is it that whenever I see/hear 'liver' my mind quickly associate it to booze. "Quickly, when I say liver you say" "BOOZE!" I must confess to having some residual 'stuff' deeply ingrained in my mind from my 20s
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    Originally Posted by accelerative View Post
    It's funny, why is it that whenever I see/hear 'liver' my mind quickly associate it to booze. "Quickly, when I say liver you say" "BOOZE!" I must confess to having some residual 'stuff' deeply ingrained in my mind from my 20s
    Haha it's like word association, hey Pete quick I say liver you say.....

    LOL I know what you mean though the few memories I have left from my early 20's include either gin or rum lol.
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    I know what you mean. Plus there's just some days I really want to go to the gym but I don't want to go ya know. Having a set up like that would be really nice for those days
    I love the gym environment ,, most days,, LOL but having a set up at home is just a life saver some days!! I've had weeks when one of the kids was sick or whatever and it was near to impossible to go the gym.. or like this week when were stuck in cause of weather.. It's just nice to have the availability of equipment sitting in my livingroom. I'm so willing to fore go a few furnishings for it!
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    Originally Posted by accelerative View Post
    Oh yeah, plus a lot more! Check out the product site in a couple of days, the new updates will be there including the new research.



    It can't be worse than alcohol for the liver. lol!
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