How much protein can you consume in one sitting?

[danny0880]

How much protein can the body consume efficiently for muscle growth/repair in 1 sitting, 1 meal?

I know everyone is different and factors such as genetics, level of exercise activity etc need to be taken into consideration.

I just want to know the general figures, maybe refer to an article, how much after a workout, etc etc.

Cheers

[drudixon]

How much protein can the body consume efficiently for muscle growth/repair in 1 sitting, 1 meal?

I know everyone is different and factors such as genetics, level of exercise activity etc need to be taken into consideration.

I just want to know the general figures, maybe refer to an article, how much after a workout, etc etc.

Cheers

Consume!=absorb!=synthesize

[Jibbo]

Everything you want to know is on the "Supersite", just have to dig a little. For myself, I drink a 30 gram protein shake one in the morning, one in the afternoon, and one at night. But that is me, I just believe with a 50 gram shake, you pee most of the protein away unless you drink it over some time.

To each his own

[drudixon]

Everything you want to know is on the "Supersite", just have to dig a little. For myself, I drink a 30 gram protein shake one in the morning, one in the afternoon, and one at night. But that is me, I just believe with a 50 gram shake, you pee most of the protein away unless you drink it over some time.

To each his own

If you're peeing most of the excess away then you have a kidney disorder. In healthy individuals excess is converted to fat.

[acrawlingchaos]

, I just believe with a 50 gram shake, you pee most of the protein away unless you drink it over some time.

Well fortunately this isn't true.

You can consume all of your protein/calories in an eating pattern you are comfortable with. Meal timing and frequency is irrelevant and should be a matter of preference (to include protein intake).

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...a-single-meal/


Personally, it isn't unusual for me to consume 100-150 grams of protein in a single meal.

[Marius_Ursus]

One study showed up to 80% of your daily requirement can be consumed in one meal. That's the only "real" information I've ever read about it.

[sawoobley]

Well fortunately this isn't true.

You can consume all of your protein/calories in an eating pattern you are comfortable with. Meal timing and frequency is irrelevant and should be a matter of preference (to include protein intake).

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...a-single-meal/


Personally, it isn't unusual for me to consume 100-150 grams of protein in a single meal.

^This. Plus, the pathway for converting excess protein intake into fat is never really used in humans.

[Rocky3540]

I have heard and pretty much when i am eating right, 50 grams a meal is a good measure to use.

[2nd_chance]

Well fortunately this isn't true.

You can consume all of your protein/calories in an eating pattern you are comfortable with.

Agree

Meal timing and frequency is irrelevant

This is a blanket statement that is not accurate. It gets old when people throw that phrase around in that way. It's like people want to show others that they are in the "know" about the latest nutrition info. It does mean something. Just because it doesn't apply to the mythical anabolic window doesn't mean we should throw out the baby with the bathwater.

/rant

Since my word means nothing, I will quote the accepted nutrition guru, AA:

Alan Aragon: The Primary Laws of Nutrient Timing
The First Law of Nutrient Timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing.
The Second Law of Nutrient Timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing.

NOTE: Please do not misinterpret the above to mean that timing is irrelevant. On the contrary, it's very relevant. Timing just happens to have MUCH LESS impact on results than hitting your macro totals for the day. This doesn't diminish the fact that people need to individualize their meal timing so that it maximizes their training performance (& does not hinder it).

[2nd_chance]

One study showed up to 80% of your daily requirement can be consumed in one meal. That's the only "real" information I've ever read about it.

Yeah well the daily requirement of protein is only 56g. When you eat 300+ it's a little difficult to eat 260g in one meal!

[Marius_Ursus]

Yeah well the daily requirement of protein is only 56g. When you eat 300+ it's a little difficult to eat 260g in one meal!

Not the US RDA, your personal requirements...but yeah, I see your point. But at least you don't have to eat 80% of your protein at once. You just can.

[OutOfStep]

Everything you want to know is on the "Supersite", just have to dig a little. For myself, I drink a 30 gram protein shake one in the morning, one in the afternoon, and one at night. But that is me, I just believe with a 50 gram shake, you pee most of the protein away unless you drink it over some time.

To each his own

I guess the info on the "supersite" isn't all it's cracked up to be. How's that pee theory work doctor?

[Ampoliros]

Everything you want to know is on the "Supersite", just have to dig a little. For myself, I drink a 30 gram protein shake one in the morning, one in the afternoon, and one at night. But that is me, I just believe with a 50 gram shake, you pee most of the protein away unless you drink it over some time.

To each his own

You believe? You know, this isn't like religion. There are scientific facts.

Of course the Supersite has one goal in mind, sell protein shakes and supplements to gullible fools. So of course, you can only have 30g per sitting, which is about five sittings per day at least! Jeez, gonna need a shake to fit all those in because I ain't eating five chicken breasts!

$$$

[Jibbo]

Ok professor's,

Despite a lot of claims to the contrary, the actual conversion of carbohydrate to fat in humans under normal dietary conditions is small approaching insignificant. The conversion of carbs to fat (a process called de-novo lipogenesis or DNL) can happen but the requirements for it to happen significantly are fairly rare in hmans under most conditions. At least one of those is when daily carbohydrate intake is just massive, fulfilling over 100% of the daily maintenance energy requirements. And only then when muscle glycogen is full. For an average size male you're looking at 700-900 grams of carbohydrate daily for multiple days running. Which means that the odds of protein being converted to fat in any quantitatively meaningful fashion is simply not going to happen. Certain amino acids are processed to a great degree in the liver and this can produce glucose, ketones and a few other things. But triglycerides (the storage form of "fat") isnt one of them. I imagine that protein were going to be converted to fat, it would first have to be converted to glucose and only if the anound produced were then in excess of daily maintenance requirements would there be conversion to fat. But as noted above, this simply isnt going to happen under any even reasonably normal circumstances. No human could eat enough protein on a daily basis for it to occur. What will happen is that amino oxidation (Burning for Energy) will go up somewhat although, its a slow process and isnt complete. So, as noted above, while the pathway exists for protein to be stored as fat, and forlks will continue to claim that excess protein just turns to "fat" it's really just not going to happen under any sort of real-world stituation. Certainly we can dream up odd theoretical situations where it might but those wont apply to 99.9 % of real -world situations. Reference "The Protein Book" for further information, hope this clears it up.

[drudixon]

Yeah well the daily requirement of protein is only 56g. When you eat 300+ it's a little difficult to eat 260g in one meal!

The one caveat I'll add to this is that absorption rates in fasted individuals is up to 50% higher for proteins, suggesting that meal frequency (16hour fasted in the study) does have an impact, however that's not a standard condition.

An aside here, while googling this topic, I found out the rate at which foods pass through your body does not impact how much of it is absorbed (I had thought it did).

http://dmd.aspetjournals.org/content/32/12/1421.full

[Marius_Ursus]

Ok professor's,

Despite a lot of claims to the contrary, the actual conversion of carbohydrate to fat in humans under normal dietary conditions is small approaching insignificant. The conversion of carbs to fat (a process called de-novo lipogenesis or DNL) can happen but the requirements for it to happen significantly are fairly rare in hmans under most conditions. At least one of those is when daily carbohydrate intake is just massive, fulfilling over 100% of the daily maintenance energy requirements. And only then when muscle glycogen is full. For an average size male you're looking at 700-900 grams of carbohydrate daily for multiple days running. Which means that the odds of protein being converted to fat in any quantitatively meaningful fashion is simply not going to happen. Certain amino acids are processed to a great degree in the liver and this can produce glucose, ketones and a few other things. But triglycerides (the storage form of "fat") isnt one of them. I imagine that protein were going to be converted to fat, it would first have to be converted to glucose and only if the anound produced were then in excess of daily maintenance requirements would there be conversion to fat. But as noted above, this simply isnt going to happen under any even reasonably normal circumstances. No human could eat enough protein on a daily basis for it to occur. What will happen is that amino oxidation (Burning for Energy) will go up somewhat although, its a slow process and isnt complete. So, as noted above, while the pathway exists for protein to be stored as fat, and forlks will continue to claim that excess protein just turns to "fat" it's really just not going to happen under any sort of real-world stituation. Certainly we can dream up odd theoretical situations where it might but those wont apply to 99.9 % of real -world situations. Reference "The Protein Book" for further information, hope this clears it up.

Where's the part where you pee it out? I read the text you summed up, but I didn't recognize it except in the one reference to ketones which doesn't mean peeing out protein as far as I know.

[Ampoliros]

Ok professor's,

Despite a lot of claims to the contrary, the actual conversion of carbohydrate to fat in humans under normal dietary conditions is small approaching insignificant. The conversion of carbs to fat (a process called de-novo lipogenesis or DNL) can happen but the requirements for it to happen significantly are fairly rare in hmans under most conditions. At least one of those is when daily carbohydrate intake is just massive, fulfilling over 100% of the daily maintenance energy requirements. And only then when muscle glycogen is full. For an average size male you're looking at 700-900 grams of carbohydrate daily for multiple days running. Which means that the odds of protein being converted to fat in any quantitatively meaningful fashion is simply not going to happen. Certain amino acids are processed to a great degree in the liver and this can produce glucose, ketones and a few other things. But triglycerides (the storage form of "fat") isnt one of them. I imagine that protein were going to be converted to fat, it would first have to be converted to glucose and only if the anound produced were then in excess of daily maintenance requirements would there be conversion to fat. But as noted above, this simply isnt going to happen under any even reasonably normal circumstances. No human could eat enough protein on a daily basis for it to occur. What will happen is that amino oxidation (Burning for Energy) will go up somewhat although, its a slow process and isnt complete. So, as noted above, while the pathway exists for protein to be stored as fat, and forlks will continue to claim that excess protein just turns to "fat" it's really just not going to happen under any sort of real-world stituation. Certainly we can dream up odd theoretical situations where it might but those wont apply to 99.9 % of real -world situations. Reference "The Protein Book" for further information, hope this clears it up.

Is that at all relevant?

[Jibbo]

Well, you all wanted it technical, so I spelled it out for you all, "Yes you can pee it out", as well as other functions. "Do your own research"!

[drudixon]

Where's the part where you pee it out? I read the text you summed up, but I didn't recognize it except in the one reference to ketones which doesn't mean peeing out protein as far as I know.

Exactly - Proteinurea = bad. Pissing protein = bad. It shouldn't be protein anymore when you piss it out.

Proteinuria may be a sign of renal (kidney) damage. Since serum proteins are readily reabsorbed from urine, the presence of excess protein indicates either an insufficiency of absorption or impaired filtration. Diabetics may suffer from damaged nephrons and develop proteinuria. The most common cause of proteinuria is diabetes, and in any person with proteinuria and diabetes, the etiology of the underlying proteinuria should be separated into two categories: diabetic proteinuria versus the field.

With severe proteinuria, general hypoproteinemia can develop which results in diminished oncotic pressure. Symptoms of diminished oncotic pressure may include ascites, edema and hydrothorax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteinuria

[ironwill2008]

Well fortunately this isn't true.

You can consume all of your protein/calories in an eating pattern you are comfortable with. Meal timing and frequency is irrelevant and should be a matter of preference (to include protein intake).

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...a-single-meal/

This thread should have ended ^^^^ right here.

[dungeonmistress]

Damn I thought this was a challenge; I'll just take my plate of rib eyes on out of here and consume them
In private. The bacon too.

[BikerLifter]

Unless you have liver or kidney disease you can eat it all in one sitting. (tried it for a week and felt like utter crap) And no you won't pee it out, you must be thinking of vitamins. And no protein can't be converted to fat. Common sense tells me consuming protein over 3-6 meals throughout the day is what my body likes best. Meal timing makes a big difference for me anyway, I can definitely feel the difference in my workouts regardless what any expert tells me. (more so with carbs and fat though)

[BikerLifter]

This thread should have ended ^^^^ right here.

Off topic but I wanted to ask your opinion on acesulfame potassium and sucralose, I am going to be consuming 6 scoops per day (whey) for the next two months, is it of any concern?

[drudixon]

Well, you all wanted it technical, so I spelled it out for you all, "Yes you can pee it out", as well as other functions. "Do your own research"!

No reason to get snippy chief. I used to think it was normal too, until I asked my doc what was up with all the bubbles in my piss. Point being, I have, hence my answers. PS. the Q+A article you cite has zero scientific references. Also, if it were true, then why does protein have 4 calories per gram? Where does the mysterious energy go if not stored or burned?

PS. Here's a study showing your source is wrong.

http://newsatjama.jama.com/2012/01/0...otein-content/

[acrawlingchaos]

This is a blanket statement that is not accurate. It gets old when people throw that phrase around in that way. It's like people want to show others that they are in the "know" about the latest nutrition info. It does mean something. Just because it doesn't apply to the mythical anabolic window doesn't mean we should throw out the baby with the bathwater.

You are absolutely correct. When I meant irrelevant, it should be based on preference of the individual. Which is EXACTLY what Aragon was driving at. Each individual should base their meal timing and frequency in a manner that works for them. In other words... there is no blanket answer. To each their own.

Thank you for clarifying.

[ironwill2008]

Off topic but I wanted to ask your opinion on acesulfame potassium and sucralose, I am going to be consuming 6 scoops per day (whey) for the next two months, is it of any concern?

Based strictly on what I've read, I don't think there's any reason for concern unless you're a rat who's being force-fed ridiculous quantities of either.

Usually, opposition to artificial sweeteners comes from those with some other agenda, such as selling sugar or corn syrup.

All that said, do some snooping around on PubMed, and then make up your own mind.

[2nd_chance]

You are absolutely correct. When I meant irrelevant, it should be based on preference of the individual. Which is EXACTLY what Aragon was driving at. Each individual should base their meal timing and frequency in a manner that works for them. In other words... there is no blanket answer. To each their own.

Thank you for clarifying.

Thanks for re-stating bro. We should never settle for an opposite bro-science in place of the old bro-science . Too many noobs run off with blanket statements and the rest is history . I knew that you knew better.

[Nikonguy]

16 oz. Rib eye = 120 g. protein

The correct answer is at least 120 g.

[Marius_Ursus]

16 oz. Rib eye = 120 g. protein

The correct answer is at least 120 g.

BOOMrepped

<3

[OutOfStep]

Well, you all wanted it technical, so I spelled it out for you all, "Yes you can pee it out", as well as other functions. "Do your own research"!

Do you have another copy and paste that is relevant to your point?