Layne Norton talking about Metabolic damage (video) HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU WATCH!

[Clean]

We've known this for a while now, but its still really up to the individual IMO and a case by case basis. Take MMA for instance. Thats a sport built on cutting weight and then fighting the day after. Well, there are guys who have been doing that for over 10 years and are still able to cut weight efficiently and effectively without problem, so where is the metabolic damage there? I'm talking about people on and off celltech by the way. These are people who take shots to the head that supposedly mess up their ability to produce testosterone, so why aren't they having metabolic damage? Im sure what is happening is that inbetween their camps their metabolism levels are going back to normal.

Also, a lot of his examples are women which probably are more susceptable to metabolic damage then a guy would be due to the test levels, estrogen, etc.

[PongLenis]

why do people hate on layne so much ? he seems to know wtf he's talking about most of the time

[Sikhveins]

Ratchet

[NoS_oUtLaSt]

just watched all 30 minutes. My thoughts:

- I know exactly what he means. I seriously know big guys(250+) that have cut down on 1,500 ~ 2,000 and lose a bunch at first then just hit a stalling point and its at a caloric level very uncomfortable to maintain
- There have been studies to prove HIIT is better. Studies to prove LISS is better. Studies saying changing metabolic level is bs and studies saying it isn't. Too many people worry about what other people are doing. Just like my chest may respond better to doing barbell bench while yours responds better to dumbbell bench. Stop taking what some other person is saying as the Gospel and try things out and learn for your own self what works best. If you can cut on an extreme amount and maintain strength and not feel uncomfortable go for it. If you find yourself struggling still while eating 2,000 calories maybe try what Lane says. But don't just jump from one extreme to another. Give each at least 4-6 months. Give things a real try and don't just half ass them and throw them off as "not working". Barring extreme genetics it takes everyone a good bit of time to find what works best for their body. You can't rush it.

[blakus_javus]

Jc is does his reccomendations have something to do with a supplement a company that sponsors him sells?

actually no, no products are mentioned at all, just general advice

[.jon.]

JasonDB did a similar video on the topic of diet breaks a while back. Good stuff,very informative.

[JOSEF RAKICH]

Josef, who are you sponsored with and how did you go about getting it? did they find you or did you have to send out pics and stuff to different companies??

Just wondering, thats kinda a goal of mine, to get sponsored in the next year or 2. you dont have to answer if you dont want. myron physique

I have quite a few sponsors 5-7 off the top of my head. They all contacted me first, I never approached any of them wanting sponsorship.

Get your name out there and you will pick up some sponsors with ease, I have had to turn down quite a few other sponsors who have approached me, simply because my other sponsors (clothing sponsor) was against it.

[smsg112]

Unreal! Not a fan of everything Layne says, but that was spot on. One of the best and most informative video's I have watched recently.

[smsg112]

Several legit studies have said ruining your metabolism is complete bull****. Anyone can get a degree and pretend they know what they are talking about.

http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2...etabolism?lite

The women were post-menopausal, obese and over 50. Not really relevant to our demographic. And Layne seemed to be referring to extreme cases; under 1,000 cals for women and high amounts of cardio. This video is aimed more at those competing (or so it seems), but there are still good points to take out for the avid lifter.

[GBLynden]

Good video! I watched it all and will share with those I know who have starved themselves into being fat.

[Kharig]

dat feel of a crippled metabolism

brb gaining weight on 1700 cal/day

[Gameover89]

fuk this lying juicer and fuk you. Techsef Techkich

loving that

[Knights12]

In for later

[CarbLoading]

fuk this lying juicer and fuk you. Techsef Techkich

LOL so hard for some reason!!!

Last time I cut natty, got to like 6% I ended up on TRT, had to use test cream for 3 months to get me back to normal. I felt like **** for so long.

Natural body building can go **** itself, lift heavy and clean bulk until you max out then start riding a bike.

(still natty) not for long though, then I'll ride a bike and still claim natty anyway.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

He mentioned working with females whom were dieting under 1000 calories(800 ex.) and doing 2 hours of cardio. He also uses adding 5 grams of carbs as an example. So I'm curious how much of this video is applicable to the average person? As opposed to people at ridiculously low cal levels and weekly cal burning. I would think the average dieter would add 5 grams of carbs here and a gram of fat there by accident some days. Oops, I poured slightly extra milk in my coffee this morning ect. Or I went out to dinner with friends and I don't know how much this sauce on the food added to my daily caloric intake ect. Just even people who try to stay within their daily caloric limit but can't necassarily accuretely calculate how much they ate that day from things like sauces ect.


Something that confuses me is that I would think eating 800 calories a day and doing farkloads of cardio/cal burning would cause someone to lose muscle mass. females with limited testosterone specifically like the ones mentioned in the video. I would think that even if your metabolism was damaged to a point that you could not lose fat that you would still lose muscle mass from being on that little calories for extended periods. So in turn, lose weight, but become an extreme example of skinny fat.

I only watched a few minutes of the video I may watch the whole thing later. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with it since I haven't watched the whole thing.



Point I was sort of trying to make was does "add 5 grams of carbs" apply to someone who isnt in quite an extended caloric deficit as something ridiculous as 800 calories a day with a high level of exercise. Is this metabolic damage thing possible for people who use normal deficits or mostly only applicable to people who go full retard?

[dizzay20]

lol @ people getting sacred of cutting and doing cardio.

smarten up *******s. This $hit is only relevant to already lean people doing retarded dieting and long bouts of activity.

[TheBreadWinner]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video, really seems to make sense and look forward to use the knowledge to further strive towards my goals.

[JOSEF RAKICH]

LOL so hard for some reason!!!

Last time I cut natty, got to like 6% I ended up on TRT, had to use test cream for 3 months to get me back to normal. I felt like **** for so long.

Natural body building can go **** itself, lift heavy and clean bulk until you max out then start riding a bike.

(still natty) not for long though, then I'll ride a bike and still claim natty anyway.

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[maxcoleman]

Pics of "6%"

Pics of blood test results.

[JackedPlusRich]

Holy mother of god this video is epic times epic!!

This is why people that yo-yo diet end up absolutely wrecking their metabolisms!!

This is why bulking at 1-2 pounds/month and cutting at 1-2 pounds/week are essential.

This is why IIFYM instead of all out cheat meals is great.

This video must have been sent by the bodybuilding gods or something.

Layne is the fuking man.

[JackedPlusRich]

He mentioned working with females whom were dieting under 1000 calories(800 ex.) and doing 2 hours of cardio. He also uses adding 5 grams of carbs as an example. So I'm curious how much of this video is applicable to the average person? As opposed to people at ridiculously low cal levels and weekly cal burning. I would think the average dieter would add 5 grams of carbs here and a gram of fat there by accident some days. Oops, I poured slightly extra milk in my coffee this morning ect. Or I went out to dinner with friends and I don't know how much this sauce on the food added to my daily caloric intake ect. Just even people who try to stay within their daily caloric limit but can't necassarily accuretely calculate how much they ate that day from things like sauces ect.


Something that confuses me is that I would think eating 800 calories a day and doing farkloads of cardio/cal burning would cause someone to lose muscle mass. females with limited testosterone specifically like the ones mentioned in the video. I would think that even if your metabolism was damaged to a point that you could not lose fat that you would still lose muscle mass from being on that little calories for extended periods. So in turn, lose weight, but become an extreme example of skinny fat.

I only watched a few minutes of the video I may watch the whole thing later. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with it since I haven't watched the whole thing.



Point I was sort of trying to make was does "add 5 grams of carbs" apply to someone who isnt in quite an extended caloric deficit as something ridiculous as 800 calories a day with a high level of exercise. Is this metabolic damage thing possible for people who use normal deficits or mostly only applicable to people who go full retard?

The point is to go slow on your bulks and cuts to avoid screwing with your metabolism, and if you notice something is off, like you are doing way too much cardio (more than 7hours/week) or eating way too little (less than 1500 cals for a large man or 1000cals for a women) then you are doing something seriously wrong.

The general population will regularly go and do extreme things, thinking that it will lead to fast results. Most of the time it just ruins their metabolism and they end up fatter in the long run. Therefore this video is very applicable.

To those doing 1-3 hours of cardio and either slowly gaining or losing weight as per their bulk/cut goals. This is not all that applicable, but those people are already doing it right, so they don't need to worry!

[Woodyy]

I wish he'd have said outright what amount of caloric deficit he thinks is best to avoid this. I know a 500 caloric deficit is a lot safer for someone at 200lbs than it is for someone at 100lbs so there can't be a general rule of thumb but it would just put a lot of people on here worrying unecassarily at ease.

[mayweatherfanbo]

will you sacrafice to WIN1?!?!?!!?

[CarbLoading]

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here I am shredded @ 6% and natty



at 9 min da fuk is he going about?

250g of carbs a day vs 500g of carbs a day......the ammount of carbs its irrelevant.

Some people like to run higher fats for calories....instead of higher carbs.

apart from that he knows his stuff! good watch. Very good watch!

[SycoDan]

Saved to watch later.

[MillerDecaXC]

here I am shredded @ 6% and natty

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at 9 min da fuk is he going about?

250g of carbs a day vs 500g of carbs a day......the ammount of carbs its irrelevant.

Some people like to run higher fats for calories....instead of higher carbs.

apart from that he knows his stuff! good watch. Very good watch!

myron hard, especially if really natty.

I have quite a few sponsors 5-7 off the top of my head. They all contacted me first, I never approached any of them wanting sponsorship.

Get your name out there and you will pick up some sponsors with ease, I have had to turn down quite a few other sponsors who have approached me, simply because my other sponsors (clothing sponsor) was against it.

Have they approached you online or in person? How do you "get your name out there"?? okay theyre my last questions lol, thanks bro! reps

[tfpriest]

I've dieted from 330 to 188, I think there is some merit to what Layne describes in his video with I compared with my own experiences dipping into ultra low cal dieting. Once I got down into my 190's I was probably eating 800-1000 cals per day and not really losing fat or weight, just catabolizing gains.

[tfpriest]

here I am shredded @ 6% and natty

look good...but who was trapezius?

[CarbLoading]

Thats aaron curtis btw.....

[BabyOilBrah]

Thats aaron curtis btw.....

I cannot believe no one has said anything yet lol.