Been watching a lot of olympias as of late (thanks to our youtube buddy)
I think Dorian faced the deepest competition during his reign compared with the other long reigning champs.
Dorian had everything from mass monsters like Naser and Dillett to contend with to Levrone, Flex, Chris cormier and Shawn Ray in their prime
Haney was awesome, but his main competition was Labrada (cmon) and Gaspari.
I don't think the competition was as deep during Ronnie, Jay's, Zane's or Arnold's reigns.
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11-08-2012, 02:16 AM #1
Dorian Yates faced the Deepest Competion during his reign, true or false ?
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11-08-2012, 02:23 AM #2
Ronnie was so ridiculously dominant during his reign that although he faced some of the same competitors as Dorian they were less of a challenge for him.
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11-08-2012, 02:42 AM #5
This is a false statement, you lack knowledge let me help fill in thr gaps. Coleman was destroyed by Gunter at the 2002GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP.
In addition to this, Gustavo Badell beat Ronnie in a challenge round at the 2005 Mr O.
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11-08-2012, 02:52 AM #6
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11-08-2012, 03:47 AM #8
in terms of shape and aesthetics; yes. in terms of size not really. the closest to his size was probably levrone or dillet. there is a reason why shawn ray, kevin levrone, nasser el sonbaty, paul dillet lee labrada and flex wheeler where in the top five and not number one. they didn't have the size to compete with dorian; it was a size game. don't get me wrong i love flex, dillet, levrone and ray but like i said it was a size game. now if you put dorian yates in ronnie colemans era coleman would have been stiff competition to say the least.
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11-08-2012, 04:41 AM #11
Dorian didn't deserve a single sandow after 1994. Even at 1994 Ray should have won. He did not dominated. But yes, Dorian was agaisnt the best guys .. 90s was the greatest era of bodybuilding, with the toughest competitions. Coleman dominated Jay Cutler and Levrone. And he was ahead of them by far. Others werent even close.
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11-08-2012, 06:10 AM #12
I'd say 1993-2001 was probably some of the more intense olympias in terms of depth. After 2001 alot of the 90s superstars went down hill or retired. Seems to have been a lull in the mid 2000s, then picked up again.
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11-08-2012, 06:45 AM #14
Very true OP. The depth and quality of Olympia competitors in the 90's was great.
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11-08-2012, 07:39 AM #16
Very tough field back then, but I still think Heath would've been right up there at any point in the history of bodybuilding. I would PERSONALLY put him past even Coleman, but that's due to personal preference and I don't mean to suggest that he would've beaten Coleman in his prime.
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11-08-2012, 07:47 AM #18
if you look at it, i'd say the quality of physiques are better today. so many people had bad backs in the top lineup (compared to dorian, ronnie, kai, phil, etc) -> dillet, levrone, nasser, priest all had subpar backs compared to todays top lineup of phil, kai, vic, rhoden.
you can argue about conditioning this, conditioning that, but i'd say having a complete physique > conditioning (look how correa is the most conditioned 212er but flex lewis and david henry still beat him)
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11-08-2012, 10:44 AM #21
yezir. and one fact people may not know is that dorian never cut his carbs before a show. he lowered them but never totally cut them out. he said he felt as though he lost size. levrone did the same thing too; he didn't do the whole carb up thing or anything fancy like that he just dieted down until he was shredded.
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This. When you really look there are some poor looking physiques in the top 10s. Kai and Phil are safe. Rhoden had added to that. Wolf looks like a sack if sh*t. Even Freeman looks poor now. Its nothing like the 90s when just about everyone looked well put together. It might pick up if Vic gets back lookin good and Cedric carries on but at the moment its not too good IMO.
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11-08-2012, 02:50 PM #28
Its onlyforum banter Brah, me and bigslimdaddy have a history going back a long way and are forum sparing partners, he is the first to jump on my posts, I am 100% sure he was not insulted, just in case he was 'If I insulted you please regard it as forum banter'
It was taken seriously, it had 25K prize money, skip to 12.25 and you can see Coleman is not too happy that he was beat.
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