Except for the most extreme cases, labeling females sluts is incredibly juvenile

[poolshark472]

why do people care so fuking much what anyone calls anyone? western countries are so fuking feminized, it's become ridiculous. nothing is bad, every type of behavior is ok, no one is to blame for anything, we shouldn't say mean things because people's feelings might get hurt etc etc. blah! if i want to use to words slut, ****, fatty, bitch and so on, i'll use them. deal with it.

prob not a good habit to call people ****s. if you do it and then punch them in the face its like 2345x worse repercussions than if you just punched them in the face and kept your mouth shut. OT/10

[kel_varnsen]

prob not a good habit to call people ****s. if you do it and then punch them in the face its like 2345x worse repercussions than if you just punched them in the face and kept your mouth shut. OT/10

we don't have "hate crimes" here where i live (not the us).

[Scorer]

Not getting any.

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Yes I think society and norms play a bigger part in this than anything else. Evolution and biology are underlying issues. They do explain a lot of human behavior, but since frontal lobe allows higher reasoning these are not the primary issues.
Society wants women to believe there is a worth in being pure and chaste. Why else would the myth of the maidenhead still live? It is complete bs. But it works great in controlling the female sexuality. Thus making her believe she is inferior.

There is a value in being pure and chaste, and it has nothing to do with "society". In short: youth, guarantee of paternity, less baggage, less risk of disease, more capacity to strongly bond emotionally.

A 30 year old woman who has slept with 40 guys doesn't "feel inferior" to a woman who is 20 years old and has only slept with one man because "society" has influenced her to feel that way. She feels inferior because she is inferior. (in the sexual marketplace).

Do you honestly believe a woman who has slept with 100 men and a woman who has slept with 2 guys (both boyfriends) should be treated the exact same by men who are seeking out a long-term relationship with a woman he wants to bear his children?

[Ozelot]

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There is a value in being pure and chaste, and it has nothing to do with "society". In short: youth, guarantee of paternity, less baggage, less risk of disease, more capacity to strongly bond emotionally.

A 30 year old woman who has slept with 40 guys doesn't "feel inferior" to a woman who is 20 years old and has only slept with one man because "society" has influenced her to feel that way. She feels inferior because she is inferior. (in the sexual marketplace).

Do you honestly believe a woman who has slept with 100 men and a woman who has slept with 2 guys (both boyfriends) should be treated the exact same by men who are seeking out a long-term relationship with a woman he wants to bear his children?

First, shades of grey, remember.
It doesnt have to be 2 or 100. And on that note, 100 is probably to low of a number if you are going for the extreme.

Why would you treat a woman any differently based solely on how many people she has slept with?
I have friends who slept around a lot, all of them have families now, kids, they are responsible, loving parents and partners. That they slept around a lot doesnt affect their lives now. They are not more likely to cheat, probably the opposite. They had their fun, and they are done with it. It does not seem as their ability to bond emotionally is impaired in any way. Why would it be?

I am guessing we live in different cultures.

[newtmiscer]

Also I am personally not looking for a good girl right now, I am not looking to marry until around 35 if I even choose to go that route. For now I just want to experience as many women as possible before that time and become financially well off. That should be every mans goal!

Experience more women, have more experience in picking the right one for you. If you only have had one good girl how the **** are you going to know she is a good if you haven't experienced others to compare her to?

you dont need to f*ck a woman to tell if she's right for you, but thats as good a justification as any

it is mans fault. people can only treat you how you let them.

if you leave a dog alone in the room with a steak, and the dog eats the steak. Is it the dogs fault? or yours for leaving him alone in there with the steak in the first place?

If you recognize it is in a womans nature to a selfish cu.nt, then whose fault is it when you marry this bitch and she walks with half? When somebody shows you who they are, believe them. The first time. Im a firm believer that 99.99% of men who were ****ed over in a divorce ignored signs that could have helped them avoid the situation in the first place.

and you are 19.. so your view on women is a little skewed. but like i said, if you recogniz it, use it to your advantage. At your age you should be worried about wifin any of these bitches. Just have fun, run through a whole bunch. Around your mid 20s you can start to concern yourself with the quality of the woman.

you said yourself that women your age are trash, so if you fall for one and end up getting hurt, whose fault is it?

im just preaching personal responsibility my young friend. When you take complete control of your own life, this world gets SO EASY. This is the most "alpha" advice I will ever give. Never be a product of your enviroment. Make your enviroment and product of you. When you do that, you no longer worry about such petty things like feminism and sluts. Those are for the weaker man to worry about. Like Nofxn said, you recognize and react. Whining and being butt hurt is stupid and very unproductive.

whos butthurt? probably alot of my peers, but not me...falling in love with a college sloot is like kissing a prostitute, you just dont do it.

First, shades of grey, remember.
It doesnt have to be 2 or 100. And on that note, 100 is probably to low of a number if you are going for the extreme.

Why would you treat a woman any differently based solely on how many people she has slept with?
I have friends who slept around a lot, all of them have families now, kids, they are responsible, loving parents and partners. That they slept around a lot doesnt affect their lives now. They are not more likely to cheat, probably the opposite. They had their fun, and they are done with it. It does not seem as their ability to bond emotionally is impaired in any way. Why would it be?

I am guessing we live in different cultures.

there is a distinct correlation between premarital partners and divorce rate

[Isabeli]

There is a value in being pure and chaste, and it has nothing to do with "society". In short: youth, guarantee of paternity, less baggage, less risk of disease, more capacity to strongly bond emotionally.

A 30 year old woman who has slept with 40 guys doesn't "feel inferior" to a woman who is 20 years old and has only slept with one man because "society" has influenced her to feel that way. She feels inferior because she is inferior. (in the sexual marketplace).

Do you honestly believe a woman who has slept with 100 men and a woman who has slept with 2 guys (both boyfriends) should be treated the exact same by men who are seeking out a long-term relationship with a woman he wants to bear his children?

It depends on her looks, entirely...an average plain jane who has slept around won't have better prospects than a naturally pretty woman who looks wholesome and probably has slept with many more than the former.
The vast majority of guys won't give a sh*t where she's been...unless she's obviously unstable and has other serious issues that make her impossible to live with.

[Scorer]

First, shades of grey, remember.
It doesnt have to be 2 or 100. And on that note, 100 is probably to low of a number if you are going for the extreme.

Why would you treat a woman any differently based solely on how many people she has slept with?
I have friends who slept around a lot, all of them have families now, kids, they are responsible, loving parents and partners. That they slept around a lot doesnt affect their lives now. They are not more likely to cheat, probably the opposite. They had their fun, and they are done with it. It does not seem as their ability to bond emotionally is impaired in any way. Why would it be?

I am guessing we live in different cultures.

Extremes are often the most succinct way to demonstrate a point.

Statistics are another way. Girls with more sexual partners are not good for long-term relationship stability :http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/...orce-risk.html

As far as promiscuous women and their ability to bond: You have to be kidding. Fairly common knowledge that many (most?) women bond like magnets to the guy the lose their virgin to. Fairly steep drop off after the first and second partners. Of course, they are still able to bond, just nowhere near as strongly.

And your "friends" may very well be outliers but the more likely reason they aren't cheating is they got older, less attractive and have worse bodies due to child birth. Willingness to cheat is only one factor, as a woman also needs enticing options. (key word: enticing. women can get laid with a random cock any day of the week, but they do tend to let only the cool, attractive guys expel protein bombs into their orifices.)

"reformed sluts" like your friends generally lose their looks and settle. "they had their fun"... frankly repels me. Guys don't want a woman who has "had her fun"... we want a girl to "have her fun" WITH US. A girl who needed to go through random dick in her twenties so she could feel complete enough to settle down in her thirties without missing out on those precious inches of alpha member she could command in her prime is not a woman any well-informed man wants to be with.

I think we do live in different cultures, mine is called "reality". whats yours?

[Scorer]

It depends on her looks, entirely...an average plain jane who has slept around won't have better prospects than a naturally pretty woman who looks wholesome and probably has slept with many more than the former.
The vast majority of guys won't give a sh*t where she's been...unless she's obviously unstable and has other serious issues that make her impossible to live with.

youth n' beauty does indeed trump everything else

BUT men with options who can find equal beauty elsewhere take other factors into consideration when considering a long-term mate, and one of these important factors is sexual history. Ironically it is these types of men who "sluts" crave the most, but won't be able to land for a diamond. A safe guy who won't be able to get pussy elsewhere will gladly wife up a slut and convince himself and others he loves her "empowered" past.

[Ozelot]

there is a distinct correlation between premarital partners and divorce rate

Really? What kind of research came to that conclusion? And where in the world?

[Scorer]

Really? What kind of research came to that conclusion? And where in the world?

I linked it for you in my previous post sweetie:

http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/...orce-risk.html

[Ozelot]

Extremes are often the most succinct way to demonstrate a point.

Statistics are another way. Girls with more sexual partners are not good for long-term relationship stability

Yeah, religion, reliable
We all know how highly religion thinks of women.

As far as promiscuous women and their ability to bond: You have to be kidding. Fairly common knowledge that many (most?) women bond like magnets to the guy the lose their virgin to. Fairly steep drop off after the first and second partners. Of course, they are still able to bond, just nowhere near as strongly.

Im sorry, what?!
No. Just no.
Thats a generalization you cant make. Is that what guys think, or just you? Crap thats funny.

And your "friends" may very well be outliers but the more likely reason they aren't cheating is they got older, less attractive and have worse bodies due to child birth. Willingness to cheat is only one factor, as a woman also needs enticing options. (key word: enticing. women can get laid with a random cock any day of the week, but they do tend to let only the cool, attractive guys expel protein bombs into their orifices.)

"reformed sluts" like your friends generally lose their looks and settle. "they had their fun"... frankly repels me. Guys don't want a woman who has "had her fun"... we want a girl to "have her fun" WITH US. A girl who needed to go through random dick in her twenties so she could feel complete enough to settle down in her thirties without missing out on those precious inches of alpha member she could command in her prime is not a woman any well-informed man wants to be with.

I think we do live in different cultures, mine is called "reality". whats yours?

Goodnight. Take care. This is where I get the hell off.

[KillerInstinct]

Holy **** this thread has gotten out of control

[Scorer]

Yeah, religion, reliable
We all know how highly religion thinks of women.

The link and corresponding study had absolutely NOTHING to do with religion.

Im sorry, what?!
No. Just no.
Thats a generalization you cant make. Is that what guys think, or just you? Crap thats funny.

You heard it, folks. The idea that a girl might bond strongly with a man she loses her virginity to, is not only untrue, it is so untrue that it is hilarious.

Goodnight. Take care. This is where I get the hell off.

an overload of truth deprives a female of her ability to rationalize effectively. Take note, men: if you argue with a girlfriend, you will notice responses like Ozelots when you hit her with logic and reason that she can't explain away. I recommend going easy on the logic, you don't need to "win" arguments with women, because the result will be her getting angry. I did make an exception in this case because its the internet, and I have no vested interest in the emotional stability of this 36yo woman.

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

You heard it, folks. The idea that a girl might bond strongly with a man she loses her virginity to, is not only untrue, it is so untrue that it is hilarious.

I imagine what she found hilarious was the supposed inability to bond to another man later on. I found that quite unbelievable too.

[Scorer]

I imagine what she found hilarious was the supposed inability to bond to another man later on. I found that quite unbelievable too.

Its not an INABILITY to bond to a man later on, its that successive bonds after the first few partners are always less strong. "Virgin clingers" are a cliche for a reason.

[Ozelot]

I imagine what she found hilarious was the supposed inability to bond to another man later on. I found that quite unbelievable too.

You are right.

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

Its not an INABILITY to bond to a man later on, its that successive bonds after the first few partners are always less strong. "Virgin clingers" are a cliche for a reason.

I may as well give up then. Clearly, I can never love again.

[daisygirl713]

I may as well give up then. Clearly, I can never love again.

lol, clearly.

[Barbarian440]

its pretty stupid. Girls are not some foreign species. Surprise, they actually like sex too. If society didn't have such double standards we'd all be getting laid a lot more easily.

That's not true at all. Sluts don't go for neckbearded spergs. The only difference is that our welfare state would expand to the point where hardworking intelligent men must fork over all of their income to a tax that pays for women to live for free and have sex with drug dealing clowns.

[Isabeli]

youth n' beauty does indeed trump everything else

BUT men with options who can find equal beauty elsewhere take other factors into consideration when considering a long-term mate, and one of these important factors is sexual history. Ironically it is these types of men who "sluts" crave the most, but won't be able to land for a diamond. A safe guy who won't be able to get pussy elsewhere will gladly wife up a slut and convince himself and others he loves her "empowered" past.

As usual...you'll be told it's only been 2 guys and unless you personally know 3 or more acquaintances/friends she's been with... you'll be none the wiser. The more visually arresting you find her, the more likely you'll believe anything she tells you...because in your mind, she's already perfect because she looks perfect...and you're always better looking or less attractive than the next person, you can't really be equal.

Most Western/non-religious men with options are far more relaxed towards female sexuality, anyway..... and even if they do decide to enter into a relationship...it's highly unlikely that they'll stop sleeping with other women. Not to say that they won't care whether their wives/GF cheats but they'd rather play it by ear and see how she behaves rather than thinking in absolute terms.

Anyway, human behaviour and interactions are much more complex than stoical statistics, which can and have been manipulated to suit a specific agenda. It's basically an embellished way of saying that nothing is ever for certain...besides that the fact that you'll cease to exist, at some point.

[Legend1617]

I may as well give up then. Clearly, I can never love again.

you can!love again & again week after week or month after month whatever you prefer there are plenty of fish in the sea no point in staying with one since it is possible to love more than one.It's completely normal to fall in love 100 times & each one be just as strong!you go girl!

[Legend1617]

you're **********

you must be mad

[Barbarian440]

I'm immortal. My particles shall live on after they have dissociated.

The looks perfect = is perfect fallacy affects women too.

[Scorer]

I may as well give up then. Clearly, I can never love again.

are you trolling? Females bonding intensely when they lose their virginity is an obvious, well known phenomenon.

[Barbarian440]

are you trolling? Females bonding intensely when they lose their virginity is an obvious, well known phenomenon.

Not for Tiffany, she is capable of wanting more.

[Scorer]

As usual...you'll be told it's only been 2 guys and unless you personally know 3 or more acquaintances/friends she's been with... you'll be none the wiser. The more visually arresting you find her, the more likely you'll believe anything she tells you...because in your mind, she's already perfect because she looks perfect...and you're always better looking or less attractive than the next person, you can't really be equal.

as I said the fact that females lie about their number of sexual partners proves only that they care about looking virtuous because they know men want virtuous partners, hence "slut" is an insult grounded in the reality of the sexual marketplace, not "male insecurity". And no, I personally and men who think like me are not more likely to believe what a girl says based on her attractiveness, but you are correct that a certain "halo effect" does exist among "weak" men who really think women are beautiful innocent snowflakes, and will defend cute girls claims of chastity. Cute girls lie because they can get away with it, it is only a small amount of men who won't take their bullsh*t at face value.

Essentially your point that "girls lie and if she's more attractive than you, you'll believe her" is true for lots of guys. As you might guess, for me personally, an attractive girl will have me MORE skeptical of her claims of chastity (though a girl can be hot and virtuous).

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

are you trolling? Females bonding intensely when they lose their virginity is an obvious, well known phenomenon.

But then you comment a woman will never bond as closely to another man again. That's such nonsense. I was in love with all my exes. Falling in love with the current guy even as we speak. But according to you, my real feelings belong with the boy next door in 1983. Puh-lease.

[QuarterRepCurls]

i think all women are sluts until they prove me wrong.

fortunately none have proved me wrong yet.

[daisygirl713]

But then you comment a woman will never bond as closely to another man again. That's such nonsense. I was in love with all my exes. Falling in love with the current guy even as we speak. But according to you, my real feelings belong with the boy next door in 1983. Puh-lease.

100% agree. i bonded most with my 2 serious boyfriends who i loved and spent a lot of time with. a woman's attachment to a partner is formed by falling in love with him, not by him being her first.

[MantisShrimp]

Slutting is what you WANT, what's the point of making women feel bad about it? Men are pretty stupid sometimes.