Hi,
SS is the best for beginner bodybuilders because it allows you to gain necessary strength, to transition to building size a lot easier.
Is this basically the reason of doing it? or does SS put on a decent amount of size?
I'm having doubts, because I think SS has a higher degree of injury, if you do the lifts with improper form. I was stupid and injured my hip joint a week a go, and it's just about recovered now...
But I just want to make sure, by following this, what will I benefit out of it? I want to follow it for 6 or 9 months.
I love the frequency of the program, I never really liked volume training, where you do so many sets of one body part a week, then wait a week and continue. Everyone seems to do this -_-
So if you could convince me exactly why it's an important program to follow for 6 - 9 months, that would be great.
Thanks
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Thread: Doubts about SS.
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10-03-2012, 02:06 AM #1
Doubts about SS.
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10-03-2012, 02:12 AM #2
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10-03-2012, 02:16 AM #3
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10-03-2012, 02:30 AM #4
Almost all programs that do not follow a bro split will build mass with a proper diet. SS is a good start as it will help to perfect and improve on your most important lifts from the get go. It is probably not necessary for to follow for a long time. Don't get caught up in what is optimal for hypertrophy.
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10-03-2012, 02:51 AM #5
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10-03-2012, 04:44 AM #6
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10-03-2012, 05:18 AM #7
Well you can't hit a bodypart hard enough when it comes to noobs they should be getting strenth to lift heaver that means more stimulation for the muscle. After 1 year full body you can change to a split routine and btw you dont have to change your exercises . You just need the 3 basic exercises (squat,deadlift and bench press)
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10-03-2012, 05:37 AM #8
what are you doubting? the fact that you can injure yourself using it?
you can injure yourself using any program if doing lifts with improper form, whether it be SS or not.
if you eat at a surplus like the program suggests you do - then yes youll gain a respectable amount of size from it - but youll also gain strength a lot faster than using some other program. however, of course it isnt necessary to do it as a beginner .. probably just best."It is what you do with the knowledge that dictates who you are" - Xuaxace
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10-03-2012, 05:40 AM #9
sarcoplasmic hypertrophy refers to sarcoplasm building up in muscle cells, thereby expanding them (making them bigger). the other kind of hypertrophy youre thinking of is myofibrillar, which muscle tissue itself being damaged and rebuilt bigger.
doing an 8-12 rep program wont bring you as much strength, as strength more so comes from neural adaption which occurs more so in lower rep ranges. so to answer your question - not as much strength, probably more size though."It is what you do with the knowledge that dictates who you are" - Xuaxace
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10-03-2012, 05:59 AM #10
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10-03-2012, 08:39 AM #11
Yeah I read it before. Basically all I found him to say is: "SS neglects upper back, don't do power cleans, it's ok to add more exercises, do dips, do overhand chin ups and train more frequently if you can".
I'll do this, seems to make more sense.
Could I do a chest variation for the dips? For some reason I just want to grow my chest out, I feel like a weak bish atm XD
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10-03-2012, 08:45 AM #12
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10-03-2012, 09:37 AM #14
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10-03-2012, 09:49 AM #15
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The key to getting success in the long run is to do what you believe in and what you enjoy. If you don't then motivation remains low and progress is almost impossible. If you don't believe in this program then it's ok to change to a different one. Hell even if a bro split gets you jacked up to go to the gym and destroy it that's better than doubting yourself on ss.
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10-03-2012, 10:19 AM #16
The two types of hypertrophy are sarcoplasmic and myofibular.
In sarco, you are pretty much just filling the muscle up with water and a type of "goo" found in muscles. You need to train in the higher rep range (8-15) and use lower rest periods between sets (30-90sec). With this type of hypertrophy, you will see greater size gains, but you aren't actually building more muscle fibers.
In myo, you are actually building more muscle fibers, creating a denser muscle. This form utilizes the CNS more than sarco, because you train in the lower rep ranges for it (1-5). You will have long rest periods between sets (2min+, it's however much time you need to recover). Even though you will be building a bigger muscle, sarco will result in greater seen size gains. With myo, it's really all about density and strength, with some size. Look at powerlifters and strength athletes. They have very dense, hard looking muscles, (insert joke here).
You can go with a hybrid system, like Elliott Hulse uses. You don't have to do SS. There are better options when it comes to size gains. SS is fantastic for beginner strength gains, and will build mass if you eat enough. If you're going for pure size, look into Reg Park's beginner routine or All Pro's beginner routine. I like the 5x5 approach for beginners, because it will build strength and mass due to the higher volume. Strength progression might be a little slower than with a 3x5 like SS, but you will see greater size gains with the extra volume. I would strongly recommend Reg Park's beginner routine. I tend to reserve the 5x5s for athletes and intermediates. Hope this helps.This post is Natypes approved.
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10-03-2012, 11:40 AM #17
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10-03-2012, 12:42 PM #18
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How much SS will benefit you depends on a ton of variables.
I agree with the main concept of Starting Strength, but I don't believe it is optimal in all scenarios. For example, if someone starts with an athletic background, I believe a high frequency, high volume routine is necessary, but for someone who lacks coordination, I believe they should stick to the basic core lifts to develop their CNS.
I believe a concept that is similar to a rubber band effect. I encourage beginner lifters to lift with high frequency and high volume, but have a planned deload session about every 4-6 weeks. When I experimented with this, I had decreased physical performance in the 5th and 6th weeks of my program, but after my deload week my lifts skyrocketed.
This is just my belief, and I encourage you to try it, but there are numerous methods that can be beneficial.The University of Tennessee
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