Grip giving out before back on deadlifts despite using grippers

[wireless101]

wut do?

I think the grippers don't help much because they increase crushing strength moreso than holding strength. Blaming my small hands

[jack4403]

wut do?

I think the grippers don't help much because they increase crushing strength moreso than holding strength. Blaming my small hands

Lifting straps.

[jjjw]

Grip strength exercises and time. I used to be in exactly the same boat 3 years ago. Could only deadlift about 300lbs at the time but anymore and my grip would go. After doing some grip strength work such as plate pinches in addition to continuing to deadlift, the problem was gone. If I try and go for a 500lb deadlift now I know for a fact my grip wont go, period. Also assume you're lifting mixed grip? That makes things a lot easier.

[LlamaWithARifle]

Get some straps, chalk or liquid chalk. Any of them them options should give you a pretty much solve your problem instantly.

Working your grip will take take so until then use straps or chalk.

[SuicideGripMe]

Straps and chalk. Also, grippers help with crushing strength, not grip. You'd be better off working static holds. Either way, evaluate your goals. If you could care less about grip strength, use straps.

[IDrinkBloodLOL]

I can hold on to at least 5 plates with switch grip (assuming I'm not being a wuss that day and giving up because it hurts my hands), and double overhand deadlift 315 for 20.

I haven't pushed it as far as it could go, but my grip is doing pretty decently compared to a lot of people so I feel like I can offer advice to anyone who's not at least up to this level yet. It doesn't come naturally to me either, I had to build my grip strength with a lot of dedication over the last few years.

So long as you aren't already ahead of me, tell me your weight, the weight you're deadlifting, what grip you're using and what you've been doing to train your hands and I'll recommend some things you could experiment with.

[wireless101]

I can hold on to at least 5 plates with switch grip (assuming I'm not being a wuss that day and giving up because it hurts my hands), and double overhand deadlift 315 for 20.

I haven't pushed it as far as it could go, but my grip is doing pretty decently compared to a lot of people so I feel like I can offer advice to anyone who's not at least up to this level yet. It doesn't come naturally to me either, I had to build my grip strength with a lot of dedication over the last few years.

So long as you aren't already ahead of me, tell me your weight, the weight you're deadlifting, what grip you're using and what you've been doing to train your hands and I'll recommend some things you could experiment with.

Ok this is pretty embarrassing

Weight: 145lbs
Height: 5'10/11
Deadlift: 230x5 reps

I use reverse grip

The only training I've done is COC grippers. I can do about 4 consecutive reps on the Trainer (before number 1) feelsbadman

EDIT: don't want chalk/straps because it looks stupid with such a small weight and besides I want to do it all myself

[abendm]

Ok this is pretty embarrassing

Weight: 145lbs
Height: 5'10/11
Deadlift: 230x5 reps

I use reverse grip

The only training I've done is COC grippers. I can do about 4 consecutive reps on the Trainer (before number 1) feelsbadman

EDIT: don't want chalk/straps because it looks stupid with such a small weight and besides I want to do it all myself

Dude, don't get down on yourself. Keep up with the deadlifting... nothing embarrassing about CHALK. 230x5 at your weight is pretty good. Static holds FTW though... get in a smith machine (leave the powerracks for people that NEED them) and load up a bar with like 315 and just hold onto it for dear life. I do something like that at the end of every deadlift day. Invest in fatgripz if you can. Also, unless I'm going for a raw max, I use straps for anything more than triples. I train grip separately from deadlift... no straps when maxing... so I know I've actually done the lift.

[RoccoTanno123]

kroc rows and farmers walks

[kokoriko]

reverse curls and farmer walks helped me alot with my grip

[IDrinkBloodLOL]

Ok this is pretty embarrassing

Weight: 145lbs
Height: 5'10/11
Deadlift: 230x5 reps

I use reverse grip

The only training I've done is COC grippers. I can do about 4 consecutive reps on the Trainer (before number 1) feelsbadman

EDIT: don't want chalk/straps because it looks stupid with such a small weight and besides I want to do it all myself

Okay, that's fine, well here's my other question - what sets/reps are you training with?

You're screwing yourself over by training with the CoC and only doing 4 reps. What most people don't really know about hand strength is that your hands, forearms and calves apparently have different muscle fibers than the rest of your body that necessitate using VERY HIGH volume in order to see results. This is why day laborers have jacked forearms and why fat people have big calves; these muscles are genetically wired to get huge and strong via moderate weight and EXTREME VOLUME.

If you google Glen MacCharles, he's got huge forearms and writes on his blog that he got them by doing things like 50 rep sets and 5 minute sets of wrist curls.

In the end, whatever you choose to do to strengthen your wrists is entirely up to you, but IMO it shouldn't even require very heavy weight - just extreme reps. EXTREME. More than you ever thought possible or necessary for any muscle in your body. Get a wrist roller and tie a little dinky weight onto it and roll it up and down for 5 minutes continuously. Get a spare tire and hit it with a regular claw hammer for 10 minutes at a time. Focus on feeling an UNBEARABLE BURN in your hands and forearms. Take whatever hand training you're doing and train it until you literally lose power in your hands and drop something involuntarily. Take a little breather and then repeat - then when you reach exhaustion again, repeat a third time.

That's how to train your hands right.

[jd2967]

Get a spare tire and hit it with a regular claw hammer for 10 minutes at a time.

This sounds retardedly brutal and I am going to do it.

[rdferguson]

Until the last 6 weeks I'd barely deadlifted all year, but I did lots of cleans, high pulls and pull ups, and I spent the phase previous to reintroducing deadlifts doing a decent amount of shrugs and farmer's walks. I can't say exactly which elements of the above did it (or if it was the combination of all of the above exercises), but I can now deadlift double-overhand what I could barely deadlift mixed grip last year. I would think the farmer's walks probably had a lot to do with it.

[scarboro]

Static hold for as long as possible (literally until the weight is about to drop) on your last set. Guaranteed you won't have any more problems.

[IDrinkBloodLOL]

This sounds retardedly brutal and I am going to do it.

Report back with your findings, good sir!

[-Lucifer]

If you google Glen MacCharles, he's got huge forearms and writes on his blog that he got them by doing things like 50 rep sets and 5 minute sets of wrist curls.

I've heard the exact opposite. Was reading this ebook written by Brooks Kubik, in which he suggests doing heavy wrist curls in addition to other stuff like thick bar holds/deadlifts/chinups etc. He even recommends doing wrist curl singles. I don't know how well that will work for forearm size, but I've been doing 5 rep forearm flexions for around a month now. It's too soon to tell if they are helping.

[John Hicks]

The only training I've done is COC grippers. I can do about 4 consecutive reps on the Trainer (before number 1) feelsbadman

You haven't spent enough time and energy on the grippers. 4 reps on the Trainer is NOTHING; you need to expend more and gain even more strength. That and don't entirely rely on the grippers alone for your grip strength, you need to do more.

[scarboro]

I've heard the exact opposite. Was reading this ebook written by Brooks Kubik, in which he suggests doing heavy wrist curls in addition to other stuff like thick bar holds/deadlifts/chinups etc. He even recommends doing wrist curl singles. I don't know how well that will work for forearm size, but I've been doing 5 rep forearm flexions for around a month now. It's too soon to tell if they are helping.

I don't even do forearm work at all just DOH deadlifts. I think they pretty much respond to anything lol. As long as you're somehow stimulating them.

[Pakina]

I think the grippers don't help much because they increase crushing strength moreso than holding strength.

Since when does concentric strength not transfer to isometric strength?

It's probably more like: your grippers aren't that good, or don't simulate a bar well.

Besides deadlifting you could throw in other pulling movements that you might be able to more comfortably go to failure on, like rows or pulldowns. Could even try them with fatGripz to make a normal bar seem easier to hold.