Right, if you're gonna reply then lets like all be cordial and nobody disses anybody else for their own beliefs. Sex before marriage is a very touchy subject and some people believe in it whereas others don't. For me I have had the fact that sex before marriage is bad drilled into me from an early age (Christian upbringing) But I've always been an independent thinker and I though to myself "What's wrong with sex before marriage?" Well I dont think anything is wrong with it as long as you truly love the person, you keep it safe and both people are emotionally ready.
All opinions welcome.
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02-21-2006, 07:52 PM #1
Sex before marriage - Let's Debate
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02-21-2006, 07:57 PM #2
Well I do think it's wrong, but i still do it.
So yes I am a sinner. I don't know how harshly this is viewed to be judged in the bible though...
Does anyone know any verses of fornication and judgement?John 3:16
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02-21-2006, 07:59 PM #4
Well, what's wrong with it is that God forbade it and demarked it as one of the Major Sins. You cannot rationalize your way out of God's commandments. If it's important enough for God to prohibit, it's a big deal.
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02-21-2006, 08:02 PM #7
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there are certain health benefits for abstaning. but there are many health benifits for engaging. The way i see it, our 2nd biggest urge as a human can not be a sin. id argue that a very few percent of christians practice this rule. And far more have sex and then luckily get saved
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02-21-2006, 08:02 PM #8Originally Posted by SYRIANKIDbulking...lots of sushi, beef, chicken, oatmeal and milk everyday.
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02-21-2006, 08:03 PM #9Originally Posted by AceVentura
Something is easier permissible or it's not. Well to make the declaration that "hey bro, that's not sinful, do whatever you want" is exactly the opposite of "hey bro, that's sinful, avoid that". So there is no middle ground in this case. Telling someone there's nothing sinful about their actions is the other side of the fence, NOT middle ground. You are taking a religious stand by denying the sinfulness of an act.
So I would still caution everyone against intercourse outside of marriage.*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
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02-21-2006, 08:04 PM #10Originally Posted by Hotbox4life*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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02-21-2006, 08:05 PM #12
Id say the main reason people think its "wrong" is because of religion. If you throw religion out of the argument, then most people probably wont be able to honestly say why they feel its wrong...
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02-21-2006, 08:06 PM #13
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02-21-2006, 08:07 PM #14Originally Posted by JAGERBOY*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
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02-21-2006, 08:09 PM #16Originally Posted by SYRIANKID"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke
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02-21-2006, 08:09 PM #17
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Originally Posted by JAGERBOY
G-d commands it, yes, but as with a lot of His commands they do, in fact, have benefits when observed.
List EVERY positive benefit to sex before marriage, and then I'll go ahead and list the negative effects. Wait, I'll save you the effort on the positive benefits, since there's only one. The ONLY advantage is that the person gets sexual pleasure before marriage, outside of that there is no benefits to sex outside of marriage. I'll wait for you to come up with more, although they don't exist.
I can guarantee you which side, in fact, "wins". So even if you were to approach it from a secular standpoint, not having sex before marriage is extremely advantageous.Last edited by KhanPaulsen; 02-21-2006 at 08:12 PM.
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02-21-2006, 08:11 PM #21Originally Posted by JAGERBOY
"Wrong" is not a personal opinion, like your favorite color or something. (I like green and white)*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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02-21-2006, 08:11 PM #22Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
Unless somebody is a Muslim, that obviously doesn't mean anything to them. I'd look at it from a different perspective. My personal perspective is that it's up to people to make their own choices and whichever choice they decide to make so long as it doesn't effect my ability to do the same is fine by me. So my personal position is that I don't have anything against sex before marriage, but overall I look upon it as a personal decision.
If I believe in something myself it doesn't mean I have to believe that everybody else should think the same way does it?
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02-21-2006, 08:11 PM #24Originally Posted by KhanPaulsen
Case closed."If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke
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02-21-2006, 08:12 PM #25Originally Posted by Hotbox4life
You see, marriage is very easy, so there is no excuse for choosing fornication over marriage.*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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02-21-2006, 08:13 PM #26
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Originally Posted by JAGERBOY
STDs, unwanted children, inability to care for said children, dysfunction in the marriage due to lack of appreciation for monogamy and your partner (hey, with all this sex going around look at how many divorces we have nowadays!), and finally unfaithful spouses because they don't feel they `have` to have sex with you since they can get it elsewhere, etc.
Having sex before marriage establishes a precedent that's only reward is exactly what the clown JAGERBOY said. It's fun and he likes it, wow...such a deep reasoning.Last edited by KhanPaulsen; 02-21-2006 at 08:18 PM.
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02-21-2006, 08:14 PM #27Originally Posted by AceVentura
I'm not saying "intercourse before marriage is illegal for Canadian passport holders" I'm saying it's unlawful for ALL of mankind.
I'd look at it from a different perspective. My personal perspective is that it's up to people to make their own choices and whichever choice they decide to make so long as it doesn't effect my ability to do the same is fine by me. So my personal position is that I don't have anything against sex before marriage, but overall I look upon it as a personal decision.
If I believe in something myself it doesn't mean I have to believe that everybody else should think the same way does it?*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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02-21-2006, 08:15 PM #28Originally Posted by KhanPaulsen
I rest my case."If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke
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