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    Complete Nutrition "The used car dealers of the supplement industry"

    I first stumbled upon Complete Nutrition about a year ago when I started getting serious about getting back into Weight Lifting. I originally thought it would be similar to a GNC but upon further inspection I found they basically carried only their own brands of supplements. The staff was overly friendly Abercrombie & Fitch looking guys asking me questions about what I have taken in the past only to completely discredit anything and everything I have ever taken. So I bit and asked about their products and started looking at their packaging. One of the interesting things I found was no pricing, nothing on the shelf or packaging denoting the price so I ask and more or less everything I am told is buy one get 50% off another, not a bad deal really if the products are decent. The prices were fairly in line with competitors pricing, a little high at around $50 for the pre workout and $42 for a decent tasting 5lb protein. I also got their NOS product NX6 and their post workout. I have to say the products were not bad; good tasting, good energy and pump from the pre and NOS, good tasting post and protein. But here is where the good times ended. I went to re-stock about a month or so later and a different Abercrombie looking guy was there and all of a sudden all of the prices changed and the deck had been reshuffled. I sent a couple of friends in to buy products (SORRY ) so with the “discount” the price was close to the same however when I got home and opened my pre-workout the bottle was about ¼ full, about ¼ less than last time. WHAAAA? So I returned it and found the next one was a little off as well but I digress. I received a flyer in the mail recently for the BIG GIGANTIC HUGE WHOLLY COW BUY ONE GET ONE FREE SALE. I also received a e-mail, text, and personal call. I thought to myself this should be a good time to stock up on the stuff I like. So my wife and I go into the store and it is like the clone wars in there. We’re talking 11 Abercrombie looking guys just staring at us. I was a little intimidated by the heightened estrogen levels in the air. So I ask for prices (as we know nothing is marked) Protein Powder 5lbs $84 ….WHAT?! I paid $42 last time! I’m told it was a discounted price so buy one get one free its $42 ooooooohhhh great deal. SO I ask about the NX6, $70! But I paid $50 so at buy one get one I was paying $75 for 2 or buy one get one at $70, also oooooohhh great deal. I do not expect the shell game from my supplement dealers. However if you are a guy who likes guys that look like Abercrombie models I have the hook up for you. I will never return.

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    I only skimmed but I think he bought some stuff at abercrombie on sale and then.when.he wanted more it wasnt on sale so he got mad.
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    A pectoral cross or pectorale (from the Latin pectoralis, "of the chest") is a cross that is worn on the chest, usually suspended from the neck by a cord or chain. In ancient and medieval times pectoral crosses were worn by both clergy and laity, but by the end of the Middle Ages the pectoral cross came to be a special indicator of position worn by bishops, and the wearing of a pectoral cross is now restricted to popes, cardinals, bishops and abbots.[1] The modern pectoral cross is relatively large, and is different from the small crosses worn on necklaces by many Christians. Most pectoral crosses are made of precious metals (platinum, gold or silver) and some contain precious or semi-precious gems. Some contain a corpus like a crucifix while others use stylized designs and religious symbols.
    In many Christian denominations, it is a sign that the person wearing it is a member of the clergy and it may signify that the wearer is a member of the higher or senior clergy; however, in many Western churches there are an increasing number of laypeople who choose to wear some form of a cross around their neck.
    While many Christians, both clergy and laity, wear crosses, the pectoral cross is distinguished by both its size (up to six inches across) and that it is worn in the center of the chest below the heart (as opposed to just below the collarbones).
    Throughout the centuries, many pectoral crosses have been made in the form of reliquaries which contain alleged fragments of the True Cross or relics of saints. Some such reliquary pectorals are hinged so that they open to reveal the relic, or the relic may be visible from the front through glass.
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    1 Historical use
    2 Roman Catholic practice
    3 Anglican practice
    4 Protestant practice
    4.1 Church of Sweden
    5 Eastern Catholic and Orthodox practice
    6 Coptic Church
    7 Footnotes
    8 References
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    One of the earliest mentions of a pectoral cross is its mention by Pope Hilarius in 461. In 811 Nicephorus sent Pope Leo III a golden pectoral cross.
    The widespread use of a pectoral cross, however, did not begin in the Western church until around the 14th century. The use of the pectoral cross in the Roman Rite was first required in the Roman Pontifical of Pius V.
    The first Anglican bishop to wear a pectoral cross was Edward King of Lincoln (1885–1910).
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    Archbishop Fernand Franck of Luxembourg wearing a gold pectoral cross on a chain.
    In the Roman Catholic Church a pectoral cross is one of the pontificals used by the pope, cardinals, archbishops and bishops. Various popes have extended this privilege to abbots, abbesses and some cathedral canons.
    A pectoral cross is worn with both clerical suits or religious habits, and when attending both liturgical or civil functions. With a clerical suit, the pectoral cross is worn either hung around the neck so it remains visible or is placed in the left shirt or coat pocket so the chain is still visible but the cross is not (this is not actually an official requirement, but is done for practical purposes). If a cassock is worn, the pectoral cross is either suspended from the prelate's neck and hangs free or is fastened to a front button with a special hook that is attached to the cross. The presence of a pectoral cross is useful to distinguish a bishop from a monsignor, since they wear similar cassocks.
    In choir dress—that is, when he wears a cassock, rochet and mozzetta—the pectoral cross is usually suspended by a cord of silk. This cord is green and gold for an archbishop or a bishop, and red and gold for a cardinal and gold for the pope. An abbot, abbess and canon would use a black silk cord. Formerly, protonotaries apostolic wore a pectoral cross on a purple silk cord when celebrating in pontificals.


    Cardinal Patabendige Don of Colombo wearing a gold pectoral cross
    Bishops wear a pectoral cross during Mass suspended by the cord, though it is not visible. It is properly worn — with cord — over the alb, but under the chasuble. In practice most bishops wear their pectoral cross over their chasuble suspended either by a chain or a silk cord.
    If clerics who do not possess episcopal character wish to wear a pectoral cross, it is presumed that they are free to wear it under their clothes, so as not to confuse them with bishops. Again in practice some clergy who are not prelates do wear a pectoral cross.
    It is worn over the alb during liturgical functions. The prelate should kiss the cross before putting it on his neck, and while putting it on say the prayer Munire me digneris (the origin of which dates back to the Middle Ages), in which he petitions God for protection against his enemies, and begs to bear in mind continually the Passion of Jesus, and the triumphs of the confessors of the Faith.
    The pontifical pectoral cross is distinct from the simple cross, the use of which is often permitted by the pope to members of cathedral chapters. Canons, to whom this privilege has been granted, are permitted to wear the cross at choir service only, and not over the alb at liturgical services, unless specially permitted.
    The pectoral is the latest addition to episcopal ornaments. The custom, however, of wearing a cross on the breast either with or without holy relics, dates back to ancient time and was observed not only by bishops, but also by priests and lay people. The first mention made of the pectoral cross as a part of pontifical ornament is made by Innocent III, and its use as such only became customary toward the close of the Middle Ages. As an adornment for bishops we meet it the first time toward the end of the thirteenth century (Durandus), but at that time it was not generally worn by bishops. As Durandus says: "it was left to the discretion of the individual bishop to wear it or not".
    [edit]Anglican practice

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    The Rt. Rev. Soo Yee Po, Anglican bishop of the Diocese of Western Kowloon.
    The widespread use of pectoral crosses has been revived in the Anglican Communion, and is usually limited to bishops. The pectorals worn by Anglican bishops do not normally have the corpus (body of Jesus) depicted on them. They may be decorated with amethyst[2] or a bishop's mitre, and are usually suspended from a simple gold chain. Anglo-Catholic bishops may follow more of the Roman Catholic model.
    Other Anglican clergy occasionally wear crosses around their necks, but their appearance and form are generally more modest so as not to confuse them with bishops (who also generally wear purple, palatinate, or amaranth magenta shirts).
    At their meeting in The Vatican on 21 November 2009 to resolve tensions over an offer for disaffected Anglicans to convert to Rome, the Pope gave the Archbishop of Canterbury a pectoral Cross. Some[who?] thought that this was an indication that he recognised the Archbishop's episcopacy — in spite of a 19th-century papal bull under which Anglican orders are deemed “absolutely null and utterly void”.
    [edit]Protestant practice

    In recent years, Protestant churches have returned to more traditional ceremonial dress from either the Catholic, Orthodox or Anglican tradition. Pectoral crosses are worn by clergy in many denominations, mainly Lutheranism, by a bishop, or by a pastor or occasionally by choristers and/or liturgical assistants in other denominations. Generally speaking, only prelates will wear a gold cross suspended with a chain when wearing ceremonial garments or when wearing a suit, in one's left pocket over the heart. Clergy who are not bishops usually wear a silver cross suspended by a cord (usually black). In some denominations the colour of the cord refers to a specific position held in that denomination.


    The bishop of Strängnäs Thure Annerstedt wearing a pectoral cross of the model used in the Church of Sweden.
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