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    Originally Posted by cles10 View Post
    op ur a dumb fuark, the civilian population is not fighting the troops in afganistan, the taliban and their supporters are....my friends mom was hung by the taliban for removing a facial garment in public, stfu and get ur facts straight.
    The taliban and their supporters are fractions of its citizens
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    Originally Posted by Koupa View Post
    The taliban and their supporters are fractions of its citizens
    that doesn't mean that the civilian populace support them
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    People in Afghanistan don't exactly support Taliban.

    They also don't support the U.S army

    It's simple really, think of it this way.



    KKK somehow becomes incharge of america and enforces their law. They then bomb a building in China killing thousand civilians. China replies by invading America. Bombing the south-side. Occasionally killing "suspicious white shirtless men". Ect ect


    American innocent guy dies because Chinese army thought he was a terrorist. His family will want revenge then ect ect.


    However, the above example is not totally correct since Al-Qaeeda, not the Taliban caused 9/11. ALSO while the U.S army has got it all wrong in this war, the "taliban" are no innocent guys liberating their country either. Some of them are, some of them aren't. There isn't one organization. Anyway, my point is WAR? WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR. ABSOLOUTLY FUK-ING NOTHING SO STFU ALL OF YOU
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    Originally Posted by casiNo. View Post
    that doesn't mean that the civilian populace support them
    Without the support of the people, you cannot rule over a country for so long. Even if, we conclude that the people hate taliban, they'd much rather have the taliban rule them than the Americans.
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    Originally Posted by Koupa View Post
    = violent resistance


    so how is this any different from what Afghans are doing?

    "because they are terrorists!" lulz
    because our government isn't burning women with hot oil and establishing a theocracy (inb4 repub debate)
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    Originally Posted by UnknownSld View Post
    if we hijacked planes and attacked another country in a cowardly manor then i would gtfo out and let the country take over the us. however, we have done no such thing so of ****ing course i would resist the other ****ing country and kick some ****ing ass. now, you're 22 and a moronic pea brained idiot who hates america so stfu and gtfo... again would neg you into non existence, but to late. hahaha
    lol american government attacks other countries and kills innocent people in a cowerdly manor all the time. the "terrorist's" were just retaliating
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    Originally Posted by theyseeme View Post
    because our government isn't burning women with hot oil and establishing a theocracy (inb4 repub debate)
    Who are you to tell them otherwise, you believe you can force a change of action

    If you force a 5 year old kid to stop playing with a toy, chances are he will probably play with the toy more.

    You force-feed them your values and ideals, something they will strongly resist. This will cause more death in the American military.
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    Originally Posted by bealsjt View Post
    your ignorance is overwhelming dude


    im now convinced you know nothing about afghanistan or the afghani people beyond what you see on TV
    You support American military action?
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    Originally Posted by UnknownSld View Post
    if we hijacked planes and attacked another country in a cowardly manor then i would gtfo out and let the country take over the us. however, we have done no such thing so of ****ing course i would resist the other ****ing country and kick some ****ing ass. now, you're 22 and a moronic pea brained idiot who hates america so stfu and gtfo... again would neg you into non existence, but to late. hahaha
    I think you are accusing Op without looking at history and actual situation in that state.

    Most of the people in A-Stan never heard of 9/11 nor do they know why the foreigners are there. The Afghans see the foreigners as an occupier army that came for their land and for control rather than getting the people bc of 9/11. But OBL supposedly is dead (Lets assume it really went down like the government is saying), what is the deal with staying in A-Stan now? To avoid Taliban take over? To avoid Islamic militant groups from having safe havens??? Well thats idiotic because the Taliban and other militant groups already control a good portion of the country. They already have a good share of Pakistan too. A-Stan is the same country and same base it was prior to 9/11. Nothing changed. This "War on Terror" pretty much just made A-Stan the same it was, and made Iraq into a hell.. so essentially now dangerous groups got one more base to operate from.

    Oh and the U.S. government has also been responsible for its share of terrorism... you ever heard of the Iran Air Flight 655 full of travelers being blown up... or the coup set up in Iran against a Democratic government, or the arming of Saddam with Chemical weapons which killed over a million? Is it right to attack, sanction or invade America because of this? No. Governments gonna government.
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    Its true...a ground invasion of America is basically impossible. With the amount of readily available firearms the entire population would be militarized.
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    Originally Posted by BalkanPrince View Post
    I think you are accusing Op without looking at history and actual situation in that state.

    Most of the people in A-Stan never heard of 9/11 nor do they know why the foreigners are there. The Afghans see the foreigners as an occupier army that came for their land and for control rather than getting the people bc of 9/11. But OBL supposedly is dead (Lets assume it really went down like the government is saying), what is the deal with staying in A-Stan now? To avoid Taliban take over? To avoid Islamic militant groups from having safe havens??? Well thats idiotic because the Taliban and other militant groups already control a good portion of the country. They already have a good share of Pakistan too. A-Stan is the same country and same base it was prior to 9/11. Nothing changed. This "War on Terror" pretty much just made A-Stan the same it was, and made Iraq into a hell.. so essentially now dangerous groups got one more base to operate from.

    Oh and the U.S. government has also been responsible for its share of terrorism... you ever heard of the Iran Air Flight 655 full of travelers being blown up... or the coup set up in Iran against a Democratic government, or the arming of Saddam with Chemical weapons which killed over a million? Is it right to attack, sanction or invade America because of this? No. Governments gonna government.
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    Originally Posted by Dave P View Post



    Its true...a ground invasion of America is basically impossible. With the amount of readily available firearms the entire population would be militarized.
    If Afghans reacted in a similar way, they would be labeled as terrorists.
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    You're talking about America here, a country which have states that have a 5:1 gun to person ratio. Wouldnotfckwith/10
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    basically everyone has suggested US population will attack the soldiers

    Is this really all that different from Afghanistan?
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    It depends whether I was able to live safely under their regime. If I feared for my life, I'd resist if it was plausible. If not I'd just stay out of their way.

    I also see the point you're trying to make, and I agree. Phuck American imperialism.
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    either way you are going to be a Zionist Rothschilds and Rockefellers slave, and people still dont get it
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    Originally Posted by agape801 View Post
    either way you are going to be a Zionist Rothschilds and Rockefellers slave, and people still dont get it
    lulz

    Rockefellers help quite a bit with their foundations, dont know how that has anything to do with the topic
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    Originally Posted by Dpezy View Post
    What is that, "other reason" op? No one has any problem with the people of Afghanistan we have an issue with the terrorists and don't tell me they don't want to kill people. That is bs.
    Lulz, that's not why the U.S invaded Afghanistan.
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    America would fold like paper, average american citizen soft, spoiled, obese no heart for real fighting thats why even with their money and resources they cant defeat hard tough people vietnam, ****lia, afghan. They cant even stick together in times of crisis Japan, thailand, india post disasters 100s thousands killed, everyone working together afterwards organised rebuilding society, new orleans tradgedy whitey ignore blacks, blacks resort back to jungle mentality after bout a week of hardship start raping and murdering each other. Rich yes,soft, fat spoiled un united.
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    Lulz, that's not why the U.S invaded Afghanistan.
    CIA = ******* Intelligence Agency
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    Originally Posted by Dpezy View Post
    Long before the occupation of the US military terrorists in Afghanistan were attacking and killing their own people. The average Afghan citizen is not the one we're fighting op it's the terrorist who would kill a baby native afghan just as soon as he would an American soldier.
    Afghanistan had a fledgling democracy with womens rights and rule of law prior to the soviet invasion in 1979. Much of what has happened since in Afghanistan, Pakistan and the frontier provinces is the direct result of superpower meddling.

    Some interesting pictures from the 50's and 60's - http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article..._afghanistan#1
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    Originally Posted by Koupa View Post
    the men we label as terrorist are average people who have lost family or something due to foreign troops

    there is no structured army in afghanistan besides the one created by america
    You are confused. There are average afghanis and then there are the mujahideen, taliban, etc. Picture it like the people in your neighborhood, store owner, mail man, etc compared to the bloods and crips with a political/religious leader.
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    Gun ratios dnt mean sht, if a country invaded the US do you really think the civvies with guns will hold up much resistance? most of them would sht their pants, and even the brave ones would get ripped a new ******* by a professional army, oh look theres one guy shooting a rifle from his bedroom window, i know lets just RPG his house, oh look hes dead.

    Civilians have no little to no combat experience, they'd be easy targets, and a 5:1 gun to person ratio dont mean sht, all that means is theres too many guns and not enough people to use them. whats the use in having 5 guns to one single person?
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    Originally Posted by meatjesus View Post
    You are confused. There are average afghanis and then there are the mujahideen, taliban, etc. Picture it like the people in your neighborhood, store owner, mail man, etc compared to the bloods and crips with a political/religious leader.
    Are you serious?

    Whether you believe it or not, all afhgans are affected by the war
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    Originally Posted by koupa View Post
    lets say that america was composed of tribes that werent really in touch with the government, just honest people farming and doing their own thing. Then an element from america attacked another country,
    how many times do i have to point out to you that they attacked us first????? Or are you just that damn stupid or ignorant that you don't want to shut up and listen?????
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    Originally Posted by Koupa View Post
    Are you serious?

    Whether you believe it or not, all afhgans are affected by the war
    just like the citizens of the USA feeling it too. your point? oh you never had one.
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