Why does everyone call BS on engineering salaries right out of school?

[icfpny]

Try telling people you make $135K right out of college doing banking. Most people think ure tripping bro.

A friend of mine got a $200k bonus for his second analyst year. He went into PE after that and is now a just-turned-31 MD at BX. Damn you guys.

[1010101]

i noe a guy who finished his undergrad in EE with really ****ty marks...60's prolly...cudnt find a job for a year...then got one in Toronto...five years down the road from his graduation he now has a 70k salary. now just do a part-time masters at ryerson and watch that salary grow....

ENGINEERS FTW! lol. we suffer from a serious superiority complex.

Anyone that takes that long to find a job in this field is not realistically looking for one. You have to find a job and take it, not let it find you and give it your "best shot".
Medical (majors) = superiority complex
Engineering = Realistic. If your going to college and paying 5-10k per semester you should be striving for at least 70k after graduation.
Psych/Sociology/Communications/Marketing/Construction/ even Business now a day are all = unrealistic expectations, low standards

[zahmad]

brahs - forget the haters. do your best in school, kick azz on the interviews, go get the best job you can get, acquire skills and if they don't show you the money you go find someone who will. While doing all that, get your Masters online from USC, UCLA, Purdue, Stanford, etc. and have your company pay for it. You got a top tier MS, real experience and skills, PROFIT.

[arekieh]

Try telling people you make $135K right out of college doing banking. Most people think ure tripping bro.

Doesn't even come close to doctors/dentists

Brb min 250k/yr up to 1mil a year for specialists

Brb brb, there is always somebody that will make more then you

[Perfection96]

EE degree here. switching to IT still trying to get a $12/hr helpdesk entry job....yes 400+ applies no responses tempted to move out of the country to get work experience. feels bad man.

[Impudent]

because the average engineer think they can just barely pass class and get a 70k job right out of school

brb no work experience, **** grades expect 70k right after i graduate, no....

I finished my EE degree with a 2.5 gpa, no experience, and even dropped out halfway for a semester. I started my job 2 months after graduation last week making 63k

edit: I had no connections either, just applied online

[icfpny]

Doesn't even come close to doctors/dentists

Brb min 250k/yr up to 1mil a year for specialists

Brb brb, there is always somebody that will make more then you

They aren't even in the same league, man.

Guys in finance out-earn highly paid specialists by the time they're 26-27.

[Kokanee]

Doesn't even come close to doctors/dentists

Brb min 250k/yr up to 1mil a year for specialists

Brb brb, there is always somebody that will make more then you

in alberta dentists and family docs average about 220k. some make a lot more obviously. specialists average a little over 300k. there are docs who pull in 1 mil, but very very few and they're mostly ophthalmologists, cardiologists, or something like that.

[DejaBlue55]

Jelly as fuark.

[body_sculpta]

EE degree here. switching to IT still trying to get a $12/hr helpdesk entry job....yes 400+ applies no responses tempted to move out of the country to get work experience. feels bad man.

wth??

[body_sculpta]

Doesn't even come close to doctors/dentists

Brb min 250k/yr up to 1mil a year for specialists

Brb brb, there is always somebody that will make more then you

moms a family doc with specialization in gynecology (did i spell that rite?).
works 7 hours a day, 6 days a week. makes about 200k.

specialists can make close to a mil/yr, but i dont think its worth it and its not so common. ud be busting ur ass at work.

[truebrah4eva]

Doesn't even come close to doctors/dentists

Brb min 250k/yr up to 1mil a year for specialists

Brb brb, there is always somebody that will make more then you

brb only need a 4 year degree
brb by the time you get out of college I'm AT WORST a director in IB making $800K a year
brb join PE fund and CEO 10K a day at 35.

[Kokanee]

brb only need a 4 year degree
brb by the time you get out of college I'm AT WORST a director in IB making $800K a year
brb join PE fund and CEO 10K a day at 35.

brb what % of analysts even make associate?

[Impudent]

brb only need a 4 year degree
brb by the time you get out of college I'm AT WORST a director in IB making $800K a year
brb join PE fund and CEO 10K a day at 35.

LOL @ 22 year old thinking he's going to be a director at an ib firm by 30 at the minimum..

[icfpny]

brb only need a 4 year degree
brb by the time you get out of college I'm AT WORST a director in IB making $800K a year
brb join PE fund and CEO 10K a day at 35.

At worst a director? Come on now. If you're lucky, you'll do 2+2 then figure something out from there (probably have to get an MBA).

Don't pretend it's easier than it actually is.

[TabriziTurk]

lol at this thread. op, if you're in alberta, even 80k-90k is pretty doable.

but if you're in toronto, you'll either be unemployed or making 60k 3 hrs north of the city.

[truebrah4eva]

brb what % of analysts even make associate?

Most chose to leave for better opportunities

[Realism]

Anyone here with a Masters in Engineering? My roommate is considering getting his MS in Mechanical.

[arekieh]

They aren't even in the same league, man.

Guys in finance out-earn highly paid specialists by the time they're 26-27.

So they make over 500k a year?

in alberta dentists and family docs average about 220k. some make a lot more obviously. specialists average a little over 300k. there are docs who pull in 1 mil, but very very few and they're mostly ophthalmologists, cardiologists, or something like that.

For the most part if you are lazy and don't want to work alot. If you are willing to put in a bit of work 500k is not hard to do

Dentists make a **** ton of money if they are business savvy. And by a **** ton I mean over a mil

moms a family doc with specialization in gynecology (did i spell that rite?).
works 7 hours a day, 6 days a week. makes about 200k.

specialists can make close to a mil/yr, but i dont think its worth it and its not so common. ud be busting ur ass at work.

Can't be in Canada, 200k is impossible working that much in canada, should be making closer 300-400 if its in a city

brb only need a 4 year degree
brb by the time you get out of college I'm AT WORST a director in IB making $800K a year
brb join PE fund and CEO 10K a day at 35.

Brb if this was true the 1% wouldn't be the 1% it would be the 20%

lol at this thread. op, if you're in alberta, even 80k-90k is pretty doable.

but if you're in toronto, you'll either be unemployed or making 60k 3 hrs north of the city.

Alberta Brah here, lifeshouldbegoodman.jpg (hopefully)




Btw, my brother is a doc, know a dental student very well as well as a dentist that is done. 99% of the sites that state how much they make are bull****ting. If people knew how much some of them really make they would **** bricks.

[icfpny]

Most chose to leave for better opportunities

Are you FT right now?

[icfpny]

So they make over 500k a year?

Many do, especially if they stayed on (instead of doing the MBA route). Most 1st year associates in IB get ~$300k all-in.

[Kokanee]

So they make over 500k a year?


For the most part if you are lazy and don't want to work alot. If you are willing to put in a bit of work 500k is not hard to do

Dentists make a **** ton of money if they are business savvy. And by a **** ton I mean over a mil


Can't be in Canada, 200k is impossible working that much in canada, should be making closer 300-400 if its in a city


Brb if this was true the 1% wouldn't be the 1% it would be the 20%


Alberta Brah here, lifeshouldbegoodman.jpg (hopefully)




Btw, my brother is a doc, know a dental student very well as well as a dentist that is done. 99% of the sites that state how much they make are bull****ting. If people knew how much some of them really make they would **** bricks.

i'm getting my info for docs from government billing disclosures. i also shadowed my dentist. i know how much dentists and docs make. and it isn't anywhere near what you're saying (especially for dentists). the info i provided excludes part time docs.

[arekieh]

Many do, especially if they stayed on (instead of doing the MBA route). Most 1st year associates in IB get ~$300k all-in.

Wow, did not know that. GJDM for you and them.
Don't think I could do that as a job for the rest of my life but mirin regardless.

[khuong1994]

I'm expecting 60-65 tax free (+benefits) straight out of uni working for the military.

[arekieh]

i'm getting my info for docs from government billing disclosures. i also shadowed my dentist. i know how much dentists and docs make. and it isn't anywhere near what you're saying. the info i provided excludes part time docs.

I'm sorry but your wrong. My brother is a doctor, they have access to closed records of salaries based on location, specialty etc
Need to have a special log in to get into it and even those are lower then the real numbers.

Real numbers = one of the docs hes working with showing him his tax return statements.


This is in Canada btw, my numbers are accurate for Alberta Canada, some are ballparks but all within that realm. I know they get paid less on the east coast in canada, no idea about the states.

[icfpny]

Wow, did not know that. GJDM for you and them.
Don't think I could do that as a job for the rest of my life but mirin regardless.

It's a pretty terrible life when you're in your 20s (actual 100-hour workweeks, etc.), but I'm still sometimes regretful that I didn't go down that path.

[wingman11]

EE degree here. switching to IT still trying to get a $12/hr helpdesk entry job....yes 400+ applies no responses tempted to move out of the country to get work experience. feels bad man.

one or more of these is true:

1. you went to a shiitty school
2. you stink
3. you have a bad personality
4. your resume is poorly written
5. you're not capable of having a coherent conversation

[arekieh]

It's a pretty terrible life when you're in your 20s (actual 100-hour workweeks, etc.), but I'm still sometimes regretful that I didn't go down that path.

No pain no gain though, and thats a **** ton of gain.

Doctors also have to go through hell for 4-7 years in their 20's. People think its a cake walk and you start making big bucks. The only people that make that much money with no hardwork are trust fund babies

[Kokanee]

I'm sorry but your wrong. My brother is a doctor, they have access to closed records of salaries based on location, specialty etc
Need to have a special log in to get into it and even those are lower then the real numbers.

Real numbers = one of the docs hes working with showing him his tax return statements.


This is in Canada btw, my numbers are accurate for Alberta Canada, some are ballparks but all within that realm. I know they get paid less on the east coast in canada, no idea about the states.

those records don't account for overhead, which is very significant for all docs outside of anesthesiology. i'm from alberta as well.

my brother in law's brother is a dentist. and my sister is a doc. btw.

[body_sculpta]

Can't be in Canada, 200k is impossible working that much in canada, should be making closer 300-400 if its in a city

My mom works here in Toronto. At two different clinics. sometimes she'll work at the hospital by doing circumcisions or helping any of her patients who are in labour.
she takes a lot of breaks throughout the year.
a lot fo her patients aren't so well off, so she does a lot of stuff for cheap as a service, and the docs who own the clinics take roughly 20%.
circumcisions can come up to 300+, she charges 200-.