I like to get all worked up on the internet about whether or not people I don't know use straps. I feel that it makes me look tough, which is very important.
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12-29-2011, 07:38 AM #31
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12-29-2011, 07:40 AM #32
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12-29-2011, 07:42 AM #33
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12-29-2011, 07:46 AM #34
I don't think anyone's trying to be "tough" or getting "worked up" I'm trying to give the guy some logical advice. If you are failing at a 190 lb deadlift, just deadlift more with a little sense and purpose in your lifting. Or you could waste your time with forearm curls and work your way to a 200 lbs deadlift.
I would wager if his grip is failing his back is rounding and sorts of other **** is going on.
He should back the weight off, deadlift once a week, possibly twice early one, start at 150 lbs and add 5 lbs - 10 lbs to the bar every session, eat right, don't mess with recovery, and I guarantee he gets to repping 275 with no issues at all before his first stall, all with no straps.
People are giving him advice like he were an elite lifter needing to break a plateau instead of a very novice lifter just starting his novice gains run.
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12-29-2011, 07:47 AM #35
I have a similar problem, I'm doing DL once a week and up the weight 5lbs each week, my hands have been adapting fine. I've changed around my back exercises so that I'm utilizing grip strength more often. I also and doing shrugs with a BB as oppose to DBs to simulate a DL and improve grip. Finally when you carry BBs for chest or shoulder exercises take the opportunity to perform a farmer carry. The key to to emphasize grip as often as possible to promote growth.
I also squeeze the weight collars while working abs.
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12-29-2011, 07:52 AM #36
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12-29-2011, 08:16 AM #37
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For bodybuilding, don't allow a weak grip to hinder progression. Work on strengthening the grip, but also use straps and/or a mixed grip.
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12-29-2011, 08:37 AM #38
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12-29-2011, 09:18 AM #39
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12-29-2011, 09:38 AM #40
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12-29-2011, 10:27 AM #41
Dang your losing grip at 190???? i didn't start losing grip till 225 for reps both overhand. With mixed grip i lose grip at around 280. With chalk i can hold onto 365 mixed grip.
Either way keep workin, don't use gloves, don't use straps. Get chalk. It dries out your skin and helps with grip. And use a mixed grip. one hand over one hand under. and switch em every now and then.
And my grip strength improves because of other lifts too not just deadlifts. But im sure deadlifts are probably the primary reason for my grip.
alot of people might think straps are okay. but its not good in the long run. Only time i think straps are really acceptable are for some wide grip pull ups. With straps u can really go to failure and push urself with those.
but anways. CHALK CHALK CHALK. if your gym doesnt allow chalk. or chalk is too messy. buy some BODYBUILDING.COM LIQUID GRIP. i got a 8oz??? bottle or w/e is the larger on the site. it wasn't too expensive. and it works great. Lasted me a longggg while. still got like half a bottle left and its been like a year.
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12-29-2011, 10:30 AM #42
Oh i forgot to mention. when your doing a mixed grip over/under.
Your weaker hand is over. and your stronger hand is under.
and ur weaker hand will catch up to the stronger one. Till than keep that hand over not under. Than start alternating every now and then once your weaker hands caught up. Usually its gunna be your left hand for right handed people. and vise versa.
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12-29-2011, 10:33 AM #43
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12-29-2011, 01:59 PM #44
This. Little bit goes a long way. If you just rub a little in your palms nobody is going to notice, my gym has the "no chalk" signs like most.
To improve grip, use a split grip (one hand overhand and the other underhand). Also try simply holding your last rep as long as you can.
Not sure what type of a program you are on either but 8 reps is excessive IMO for deadlifts. Upping the weight to something you can only get for 3-4 reps with a pause and a reset after each is far more productive.
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12-29-2011, 06:29 PM #45
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12-29-2011, 06:34 PM #46
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12-29-2011, 08:34 PM #47
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12-29-2011, 09:52 PM #48
OP--
i noticed that you said your grip starts to fail around the 8th rep of your set.
are you doing each rep consecutively or are you briefly resetting before each rep? if you're doing the former, then that would explain why you're grip is failing at such a low weight; doing 8 straight reps without ANY sort of deloading (for lack of a better word) between your reps requires an awful lot of grip ENDURANCE.
remember, its a DEADlift. the point of it is not to see how much weight your grip can withstand. briefly resetting after each rep (so that the weight is 'DEAD' at the start of each rep) will ensure that your forearms don't hinder the lift.Last edited by jorairdan; 12-29-2011 at 09:58 PM.
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12-29-2011, 10:05 PM #49
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