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    Ketogenic diet question

    Hi,

    I'm on a strictly ketogenic (<20g carbs) diet since last week and I've already lost about 11 pounds. Is this possible or am I just losing water?

    Second question: I'd like to start working out. Is a ketogenic diet suitable for that or should I rather try something else?


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    Originally Posted by RedirectLeft View Post
    Hi,

    I'm on a strictly ketogenic (<20g carbs) diet since last week and I've already lost about 11 pounds. Is this possible or am I just losing water?

    Second question: I'd like to start working out. Is a ketogenic diet suitable for that or should I rather try something else?


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    Without knowing your stats, its hard to say for sure. But assuming you are average height and weight, i would guess that 7 or 8 of those 11 lbs are water weight. (obviously assuming you have been eating at a calorie deficit of approx 500 cals per day)

    You can work out on a keto diet just fine. I am currently in ketosis and ran 6 miles last in 55 minutes. Easy Breezy.

    Check out the keto forums for more info bro.
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    Mostly water at this point. I can usually gain 5-10 lbs of water back in two days when I go from strong ketosis to a carb loading weekend.

    Those large swings are normal depending on your carb intake. Just keep eating at a calorie deficit.
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    Originally Posted by RedirectLeft View Post
    Hi,

    I'm on a strictly ketogenic (<20g carbs) diet since last week and I've already lost about 11 pounds. Is this possible or am I just losing water?

    Second question: I'd like to start working out. Is a ketogenic diet suitable for that or should I rather try something else?


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    It's mostly water. Glycogen bonds with 4 water molecules, during your inital week you will deplete your gylcogen stores and hence your water weight plumets.
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    arent you supposed to consume 40g of carbs to prevent brain fog?
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    Originally Posted by Delgadido View Post
    arent you supposed to consume 40g of carbs to prevent brain fog?
    My experience is the brain fog only lasts half a day or so. Push through and then you can maintain lower carb intake.
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    Originally Posted by Delgadido View Post
    arent you supposed to consume 40g of carbs to prevent brain fog?
    THere's no brain fog once the ketogenic state kicks in, but the first few days when you start are tough.
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    I don't why on earth anybody (assuming they are not in the tiny minority genetically) would do keto when it offers no metabolic or fat loss advantage to a balanced diet, beyond the illusory water weight loss at the beginning.
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    Originally Posted by Riffo View Post
    THere's no brain fog once the ketogenic state kicks in, but the first few days when you start are tough.
    In theory, sure. My experience is that the whole ''metabolic shift'' concept is over-rated. Can't speak for you but for me, I feel a little better once I push through to keto but never quite right.

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    I don't why on earth anybody (assuming they are not in the tiny minority genetically) would do keto when it offers no metabolic or fat loss advantage to a balanced diet, beyond the illusory water weight loss at the beginning.
    I tend to agree with you, although for rapid weight loss nothing quite beats the low carb approach. The problem is in that nagging little issues of muscle retention. A balanced diet is allot more optimal, esspecially for the natural. Now, if you're not natural, you can remain Anabolic under severe calorie/macro restrictions; which, could possible cause one to revisit severe carb cycling as an idea.

    Originally Posted by RedirectLeft View Post
    Hi,

    I'm on a strictly ketogenic (<20g carbs) diet since last week and I've already lost about 11 pounds. Is this possible or am I just losing water?

    Second question: I'd like to start working out. Is a ketogenic diet suitable for that or should I rather try something else?


    Thanks.

    You lost mostly water weight. When you knock out carbs, as you go about your daily routing, you will loose muscle glycogen and the water that accompanies it. If you actually workout with any intensity, this happens even quicker. People get all giddy about weight loss on keto type diets but the the loss is not good. Contrary to the retarded advice often found here, "water retention" is a VERY GOOD thing.

    I look at Keto as the 'Carpet Bombing' of dieting. That is: you really don't care what you hit or how much collateral damage is done (muscle etc) as long as you hit the target (fat)
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    i think keto kinda makes since it does use fat for energy and when i read lyle book once you strong into keto when you lower the fat it just takes more fat from the person.
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