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    Thanks for posting this. I have used Purple Wraath in the past and really enjoyed it, next time I need an EEA product I will be trying PsyKO for a change up/review.
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    Thanks for posting this. I have used Purple Wraath in the past and really enjoyed it, next time I need an EEA product I will be trying PsyKO for a change up/review.
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    I got a tub of Psyko and I like the flavor better than Wraath. Wraath is a little too sweet for me, but I find Psyko much more sour which I enjoy. My only "complaint" is the pink color. I was at the gym the other day with my pink Psyko in my purple Blender Bottle... It was quite the combo
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    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    I got a tub of Psyko and I like the flavor better than Wraath. Wraath is a little too sweet for me, but I find Psyko much more sour which I enjoy. My only "complaint" is the pink color. I was at the gym the other day with my pink Psyko in my purple Blender Bottle... It was quite the combo
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    I prefer the formula in purple wraath over Psyko, IMO. Wraath gives you 7 grams of BCAA/EAA mix per serving. While Psyko gives you only 4 grams of hydro pro, so the EAA ratio is less then the EAA from wraath. While Psyko does give you a heap load of luecine, I am a believer in a closer ratio of 2:1:1 for my bcaa's, and wraath does that for me.
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    So for bulking/strength (and potentially do some collegiate wrestling I would use _______
    keep in mind I would be stacking it alongside Whiteflood amd Green Mag
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    Originally Posted by Thadleon View Post
    So for bulking/strength (and potentially do some collegiate wrestling I would use _______
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    Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    go with psyko in that scenario
    Alright thanks
    Would I be bothering you if I asked why psyko as opposed to wraath?
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    Originally Posted by Thadleon View Post
    Alright thanks
    Would I be bothering you if I asked why psyko as opposed to wraath?
    Just curious
    Did you skip right past post #1 ????....
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    Did you skip right past post #1 ????....
    Clearly if I fully understood the science behind the delineation between these two I wouldn't have asked in the first place?
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    Originally Posted by Thadleon View Post
    Clearly if I fully understood the science behind the delineation between these two I wouldn't have asked in the first place?
    Better to look like a fool for five minutes than be a fool for a lifetime.
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    Which version of White FLOOD do you have ?
    V2 my friend
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    V2 my friend
    Ok, next up... how well do you understand leucine MOA ?
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    Ok, next up... how well do you understand leucine MOA ?
    Somewhat, I know the use and applications around leucine but that's about it
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    Somewhat, I know the use and applications around leucine but that's about it
    Ok so for YOU BULKING... with the obvious emphasis on leucine, there is a SLIGHT advantage for you with PsyKO... but we aren't talking a mind blowing difference here. Also, you'll be getting insane endurance from the new improved White FLOOD (WRAATH is amazing STIM FREE endurance, emphasis on stim free)
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    Ok so for YOU BULKING... with the obvious emphasis on leucine, there is a SLIGHT advantage for you with PsyKO... but we aren't talking a mind blowing difference here. Also, you'll be getting insane endurance from the new improved White FLOOD (WRAATH is amazing STIM FREE endurance, emphasis on stim free)
    Alright that explains it, thank you.
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    Alright that explains it, thank you.
    So after a tub of White FLOOD, when it's time to cycle off.... any thoughts there ?
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    So after a tub of White FLOOD, when it's time to cycle off.... any thoughts there ?
    Pump-BOL?
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    after im done with white flood, will I have to wait 2-4 weeks before using another stim like pump-bol?
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    after im done with white flood, will I have to wait 2-4 weeks before using another stim like pump-bol?
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    Pump-Bol is NON-Stim.
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    Ok I need to take a few weeks off WF as I have been on it for an eternity. Do you recommend P-bol as the best replacement?
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    Ok I need to take a few weeks off WF as I have been on it for an eternity. Do you recommend P-bol as the best replacement?
    For a non stim Pre PBol is great as a standalone. Also it appears PBol + Ultima is a popular Non Stim Pre mix (never tried Ultima)
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    ^ What he said. PumpBol is not a stim. I actually use 2 scoops Pbol + 1 scoop WF 60 minutes pre workout (sip/swich for 15 minutes)
    Ahhh, I use exactly backwards. 1.5-2 scoops WF and 1 scoop Pump-Bol, just recieved PSU and Agmatine today!

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    Ok I need to take a few weeks off WF as I have been on it for an eternity. Do you recommend P-bol as the best replacement?
    There are quite a few solid replacements, Ultima is also a great choice.
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    Ahhh, I use exactly backwards. 1.5-2 scoops WF and 1 scoop Pump-Bol, just recieved PSU and Agmatine today!



    There are quite a few solid replacements, Ultima is also a great choice.
    Yeah, I usually try to avoid stims so I have just been adding 1scoop WF for a little extra boost. I actually just received Agmatine as well, haven't quite decided when I am going to fit it into my current stack.

    Also ordered Ultima. Been using Green Mag but that stuff has been deadly on my stomach of late. Once I am done with it I will probably switch to Ultima on lift days and either Green Bulge or SNS MCC on off days.

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    Yeah, I usually try to avoid stims so I have just been adding 1scoop WF for a little extra boost. I actually just received Agmatine as well, haven't quite decided when I am going to fit it into my current stack.

    Also ordered Ultima. Been using Green Mag but that stuff has been deadly on my stomach of late. Once I am done with it I will probably switch to Ultima on lift days and either Green Bulge or SNS MCC on off days.

    And of course still taking PysKO on lift days and Wraath on cardio days.
    I see what you mean, I love stims even though I lift in the evenings before bed. Agmatine will be two directly upon waking and 2 45mins pre workout. I have AllMax Micronized Mono at the moment, however SNS is a solid company and am satisfied with them as well. I like your PsyKO and Wraath dosing on cardio vs lift days.
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    Yeah, I usually try to avoid stims so I have just been adding 1scoop WF for a little extra boost. I actually just received Agmatine as well, haven't quite decided when I am going to fit it into my current stack.

    Also ordered Ultima. Been using Green Mag but that stuff has been deadly on my stomach of late. Once I am done with it I will probably switch to Ultima on lift days and either Green Bulge or SNS MCC on off days.

    And of course still taking PysKO on lift days and Wraath on cardio days.
    For those that don't like stims, try using it ONLY when you need it an intra workout with psyko or wraath. Works well for me and no cycling needed.
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