boxing actually hurts, MMA doesn't (srs)

[access1denied]

And that's my point. You're saying he could have killed him which would = jail time.

MMA is a sport with rules and regulations just like Boxing. Street fights have nothing to do with ANYTHING.

Fact : James TOney fought in a UFC fight against a legendary UFC fighter and walked away with no marks on his face and $1 million

Fact : If Coutoure fought with Toney in boxing he would walk away on a stretcher

I think you're avoiding the fact that Randy put Toney down nicely. Wanna know what he could have done if he wanted? Full mount and elbows. Toney would have walked out with his face sliced like deli meat. In boxing, the only option you have is to punch, of course there will be damage. Randy decided to sub Toney

You really don't have a point. Troll

[John L]

are you stupid? I'm talking about in a boxing ring with boxing rules.

So the Thai boxer wouldn't be able to knee/kick/elbow/clinch? Yeah, Pacquiao would win a boxing match. The Thai boxer would win a kickboxing/muay thai match.

[Rolo01]

To many people train for mma and end up do it for the wrong reasons. The same with boxing. It's people like OP and others like him that give them both a bad rep. Both are wonderful sports. You should show respect for both and take what you like or need from them. Not put them against each other to prove this one or that one is better.

[Dinamita89]

LOLOLOLOLOL.

The Fairtex family alone could clean out the WBC.

Are you claiming those Mutay Thai ****s could go into boxing and be anything more than tomato cans let alone become world champions? LOL.

[joeybear285]

And that's my point. You're saying he could have killed him which would = jail time.

MMA is a sport with rules and regulations just like Boxing. Street fights have nothing to do with ANYTHING.

Fact : James TOney fought in a UFC fight against a legendary UFC fighter and walked away with no marks on his face and $1 million

Fact : If Coutoure fought with Toney in boxing he would walk away on a stretcher

i see what ur saying but it doesnt mean boxing has more technique or is harder to learn than wrestling/bjj

[jackdaniels6785]

i see what ur saying but it doesnt mean boxing has more technique or is harder to learn than wrestling/bjj

ill leave these here

[John L]

Are you claiming those Mutay Thai ****s could go into boxing and be anything more than tomato cans let alone become world champions? LOL.

Your argument can be used both ways. The same would happen to Pacman if he entered a K1 kickboxing tournament. Pacman would likely beat a skilled kickboxer in a boxing rules match. A kickboxer would likely beat Pacman in a kickboxing match.

This stuff isn't hard to understand, people.

[access1denied]

Brazilian Jujitsu is far more technical than any striking art, boxing included. In fact, BJJ might be the most technical combat art in the world.

[LAWLER89]

Are you claiming those Mutay Thai ****s could go into boxing and be anything more than tomato cans let alone become world champions? LOL.

Avi: None
Stats: None
Amount of training completed: None
Actual fight experience: None

Another armchair general.

[access1denied]

Avi: None
Stats: None
Amount of training completed: None
Actual fight experience: None

Another armchair general.

Strong ad hominem fallacy

[Dinamita89]

i see what ur saying but it doesnt mean boxing has more technique or is harder to learn than wrestling/bjj

Boxing is the most skilled and toughest sport in the world in general. To become a world champion like Mayweather for over 10 years+ is just amazing. Boxers normally have a short prime then they're out of the window.

[MEDITATE]

are you stupid? I'm talking about in a boxing ring with boxing rules.

u didnt state that in ur 1st post ******, changing ur sayings i see. ******

LOLOLOLOLOL.

The Fairtex family alone could clean out the WBC.

this summer if all goes well 6 weeks ill be spending thier,last couple of times i dropped by phucket, but ive seen some cool vids on fairtex and all top thaixboxers train there, kanchai,attachai,yodsanklai "btw this guy is a beast" and naruepol

[Tamorlane]

[LAWLER89]

Strong ad hominem fallacy

O RLY?
Explain.

[Dinamita89]

Your argument can be used both ways. The same would happen to Pacman if he entered a K1 kickboxing tournament. Pacman would likely beat a skilled kickboxer in a boxing rules match. A kickboxer would likely beat Pacman in a kickboxing match.

This stuff isn't hard to understand, people.

You do realize that I was responding to some guy claiming that some muay thai fighter would destroy any boxer right and I was giving him his own medicine?

[LAWLER89]

this summer if all goes well 6 weeks ill be spending thier,last couple of times i dropped by phucket, but ive seen some cool vids on fairtex and all top thaixboxers train there, kanchai,attachai,yodsanklai "btw this guy is a beast" and naruepol

[access1denied]

Boxing is the most skilled and toughest sport in the world in general. To become a world champion like Mayweather for over 10 years+ is just amazing. Boxers normally have a short prime then they're out of the window.

You can't just say stuff like this and assume you're right. What's so technical about boxing? Foot work, head movement, jab, crosses, hooks, overhands, uppercuts, a few variations of those and putting it all together into something that wins.

What is so technical about BJJ? Dozens and dozens and dozens of submissions that must be drilled from multiple positions, defenses to each of those, sweeps and position improvement from every position (Guard, half guard, sidemount, kneemount, full mount, rear mount, etc.), and then there are small things such as where is your weight, how high are your hips, etc. etc. There are THOUSANDS more variables possible in Jujitsu compared to boxing.

That is just MMA jujitsu too. Sport jujitsu with all it's spider guard clock choking inverted rolling omoplata stuff is even more technical.

[John L]

You do realize that I was responding to some guy claiming that some muay thai fighter would destroy any boxer right and I was giving him his own medicine?

I thought you were talking about a style vs style fight (one that would allow both fighters to fully utilize all their skills), not a boxing rules match. Of course Pacquiao would beat the Thai fighter in a boxing match. Is anyone arguing this?

[MEDITATE]

honestly yes lol

[access1denied]

O RLY?
Explain.

You're trying to say he's wrong because something about HIM and not what he's SAYING. This is the most often used fallacy by idiots who can't formulate an intelligent response. "LOLOLOLO LOOK ATCHU YOU SUCKZ HAHA JOOR WRONG LOLZ!"

[Dinamita89]

You can't just say stuff like this and assume you're right. What's so technical about boxing? Foot work, head movement, jab, crosses, hooks, overhands, uppercuts, a few variations of those and putting it all together into something that wins.

What is so technical about BJJ? Dozens and dozens and dozens of submissions that must be drilled from multiple positions, defenses to each of those, sweeps and position improvement from every position (Guard, half guard, sidemount, kneemount, full mount, rear mount, etc.), and then there are small things such as where is your weight, how high are your hips, etc. etc. There are THOUSANDS more variables possible in Jujitsu compared to boxing.

Except boxing you get hit in the face.

[RWC5113]

MMA will never have something like this. EVER.

Best round of boxing I have ever seen

[joeybear285]

You can't just say stuff like this and assume you're right. What's so technical about boxing? Foot work, head movement, jab, crosses, hooks, overhands, uppercuts, a few variations of those and putting it all together into something that wins.

What is so technical about BJJ? Dozens and dozens and dozens of submissions that must be drilled from multiple positions, defenses to each of those, sweeps and position improvement from every position (Guard, half guard, sidemount, kneemount, full mount, rear mount, etc.), and then there are small things such as where is your weight, how high are your hips, etc. etc. There are THOUSANDS more variables possible in Jujitsu compared to boxing.

this

[LAWLER89]

You can't just say stuff like this and assume you're right. What's so technical about boxing? Foot work, head movement, jab, crosses, hooks, overhands, uppercuts, a few variations of those and putting it all together into something that wins.

What is so technical about BJJ? Dozens and dozens and dozens of submissions that must be drilled from multiple positions, defenses to each of those, sweeps and position improvement from every position (Guard, half guard, sidemount, kneemount, full mount, rear mount, etc.), and then there are small things such as where is your weight, how high are your hips, etc. etc. There are THOUSANDS more variables possible in Jujitsu compared to boxing.

This.

Take your super technical boxing, then try and keep up with the hundreds of counters to the body kick, then the hundreds more for the knee, the hundreds of moves in the clinch, and then pile on everything you need in boxing as well.

[Dinamita89]

I thought you were talking about a style vs style fight (one that would allow both fighters to fully utilize all their skills), not a boxing rules match. Of course Pacquiao would beat the Thai fighter in a boxing match. Is anyone arguing this?

well this LAWLER guy claims this, so why don't you neg him as well?

[Dinamita89]

if MMA guys can't admit this is beautiful I'll just leave

[LandmineLt]

lol at guys that think there aren't quality boxers in MMA. KJ Noons is a professional boxer(11-2) that also competes in MMA professionally( 13-3). This guy has amazing hands and competes in MMA, and yes he knocks guys out... but he still has still be KOd in mma, as well as being submitted.

Agreed, plus Overeem (kickboxer) has pretty good f'in standup

[LAWLER89]

You're trying to say he's wrong because something about HIM and not what he's SAYING. This is the most often used fallacy by idiots who can't formulate an intelligent response. "LOLOLOLO LOOK ATCHU YOU SUCKZ HAHA JOOR WRONG LOLZ!"

Oh, I guess I'm an idiot then.
You see, I figured that the man's lack of personal experience nullified his argument which is based on skills that can only be learned and understood through personal experience. Herp derp.

[access1denied]

Except boxing you get hit in the face.

Except in MMA jujitsu you are too.

[access1denied]

Oh, I guess I'm an idiot then.
You see, I figured that the man's lack of personal experience nullified his argument which is based on skills that can only be learned and understood through personal experience. Herp derp.

No. It doesn't. If I say the world is round because someone else observed it scientifically, your analogue argument would be "YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YOURSELF." If something is observable it can be debated logically. Someone's pedigree exists independent of their argument -- look at facts, not people.

You clearly aren't very educated. Just sayin...