barbell rows vs pull ups wha is king?

[momotheglutton]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that you have 15.5" arms
yet you can pull up 200lb bodyweight + 160lb? If that is the case, that's
****ing unbelievable. How tall are you dude?

6 feet tall. And yeah, that's what I'm saying. For some reason I'm much stronger with weighted pullups and chinups than I am with anything else. My weakpoint is at the top of the motion and I've started training them with chains and bands. So hopefully I'll be shattering those numbers sometime soon.

[imageek]

u do actually
besides pullups and dips (only for a short time) tell me what else its good for ?

squat

[Revolver45]

Here's the thing, they're both necessary exercises and they're both designed for completely different things. For widening your lats, wide grip pullups all the way, preferably weighted. But, if you're looking to thicken your back theres really no substitute for barbell rows. It's kind of hard to say one's better than the other cuz they're both quite necessary.

[gymratluke]

Do them both, but since you want me to pick one I said pull ups. Many people will tell you that the key to big arms is a great back routine. So if ya want those arms to grow, focus on your back, doing pulls and rows superset, with high intensity.

[bobsy]

barbell rows



bobsy

[gkeki]

Hey guys, I assume that most of you prefer pull-ups Would you go for it even it is a "door pull-up" ? Just wondering...

[bgzee]

6 feet tall. And yeah, that's what I'm saying. For some reason I'm much stronger with weighted pullups and chinups than I am with anything else. My weakpoint is at the top of the motion and I've started training them with chains and bands. So hopefully I'll be shattering those numbers sometime soon.

Is that starting at a straight arm hang? I can push out 4 reps w/ 90lb attached and Im 170.

[momotheglutton]

Is that starting at a straight arm hang? I can push out 4 reps w/ 90lb attached and Im 170.

Yeah. But like I said I haven't actually tested the 160 and can only claim an easy 145. With 4 reps with 90 you could probably move a decent amount of weight though.

[tonytartufo]

Pull-ups are the best exercise you can do for your back. I do 10 sets of 10. Slow and strict about 3 times per week.

[Powerbuilt]

jus wondering if u had to do one or the other which one would u guyz chose and why

It's not an "either or" question dude. Pull-ups "wide" will hit the lats for your width, Barbell rows will hit the trap and give you the "Thick" back.

Personally I prefer Cable & T-bar and dumbbell rows for a thick back.

[gkeki]

Door pull ups?? anybody?

[Odin87]

Door pull ups?? anybody?

i use to do door pullups, until i found out that the door could break off if its not strong enough to resist your weight.

[gkeki]

yeah but I have chin up bar outdoors only So have to look for some alternatives and that's what I got Is that ok to do till the weather gets better so can pull-ups can be done outdoors? Tks, Gery

[Xanatos]

weighted pullups any day. It's a lot harder than it looks.

[miche13]

some of you might have seen this sending it out there again

http://www.angelfire.com/rock2/Extre...t/workout.html

The first back exersice I do is weighted pullups the next one is lat rows

[BernieD]

Pull-ups are the best exercise you can do for your back. I do 10 sets of 10. Slow and strict about 3 times per week.

That seems like too much. Maybe if you're not doing a strict lifting routine, but if you're doing that on top of a split routine, that's definitely overkill. 300 pullups a week? lol wow, way too many. Sounds like you might be overtraining. But like I said, if all you were doing for "lifting" was pullups, I guess it would be ok.............................

[JBDW]

pull ups

[F W Nietszche]

Very ambigious question as they focus on different kind of developments, it is analogous to asking whether leg presses are better than hacks.

[mattman]

what is the purpose of behind the neck chins(thats pronated grip right?) and how often should I include them in the routine? I did 2 sets of 5 reps today.

[imageek]

pullups no questions asked

[mattman]

what is the purpose of behind the neck chins(thats pronated grip right?) and how often should I include them in the routine? I did 2 sets of 5 reps today.

[Pullup17]

Like many others said, both are essential. However, i feel my back working more when i'm doing chins/pullups. They're also my favourite exercise.

BTW, i'm wondering how to differentiate between a pullup and a chinup?

I do them with my palms facing away from me.

[JBDW]

what is the purpose of behind the neck chins(thats pronated grip right?) and how often should I include them in the routine? I did 2 sets of 5 reps today.

I wouldn't recommend doing pulls behind your neck. IMO there's no extra advantage doing them and you could possibly hurt your neck and shoulders.

[mattman]

I was doing behind the neck chinups right, cause my hands were facing away from me? I can get hurt doing them?

[Flick]

I always include both in my workout. I'm finally getting to the point where I can add a pretty decent amount of weight on my pull-ups. All the way up, all the way down - feels great.

[Mikey1]

There is no "king". One is for thickness, the other is for width. Both are ESSENTIAL for complete back development.

agreed

[gkeki]

Guys, try to do pull-ups/chins to your abs it is fvkin' cruel! Also you can try L-hang combined with pull-ups, in prisons called "blasters". Man that's tha ****!

[tredaway]

I know this is an old thread however after reading all the posts that say wide grip pull ups/chins do you realise that wide grip isn't the best option as your actually shortening the range of motion, and a neutral grip is probably the best as its much kinder on your shoulders and wrists.

Oh and to answer the question pull ups/chins all the way.

[GZAakaGENIUS]

I hate these types of questions. But if I can add my 2 cents if u got the powah u can turn a pull up into a bodyweight row by leaning back.

[oldballs]

I know this is an old thread however after reading all the posts that say wide grip pull ups/chins do you realise that wide grip isn't the best option as your actually shortening the range of motion, and a neutral grip is probably the best as its much kinder on your shoulders and wrists.

Oh and to answer the question pull ups/chins all the way.

Greater ROM doesn't necessarily mean more work is done by the target muscle. You might be better off using shorter ROM and heavier weight depending on your goals. Hope this helped.