|
Thread: Clean Eating is a SCAM!
-
09-14-2010, 07:35 PM #391
-
09-14-2010, 07:38 PM #392
-
-
09-14-2010, 07:38 PM #393
- Join Date: Mar 2010
- Location: New Jersey, United States
- Age: 35
- Posts: 2,119
- Rep Power: 2099
That's why the "if it fits your macros" line is thrown out a lot. If you can fit something you love that satisfies you daily or weekly into your macros then you will more likely be more consistent with your diet long term without bumps on the road. Besides finding the right scheduling with my diet, what I said before has helped me a ton. If I can't fit some kind of peanut butter into my macros daily (or even a few days a week) then I'll be very upset .
-
09-14-2010, 07:41 PM #394
-
09-14-2010, 07:43 PM #395
-
09-14-2010, 07:45 PM #396
-
-
09-14-2010, 07:46 PM #397
-
09-14-2010, 07:48 PM #398
-
09-14-2010, 07:51 PM #399
-
09-14-2010, 09:20 PM #400
Quite a lot of time wasted. Wasted 3 years of my life eating 'clean' only to be disappointed in more ways than one. Time spent worrying weather this meal was clean enough when eating out with the family. Time wasted not eating foods that I enjoy. And we all know time is money. I've made better gains with a relaxed approach.
and before you say I was doing it wrong, I signed up with two separate coaches. two well respected coaches and I struggled to gain mass. I won't say their namesso don't ask. I have nothing bad to say about them.
it wasn't until I consulted with Alan that my whole outlook changed, for the better. and I think he can vouch I work hard.
-
-
09-14-2010, 09:23 PM #401
-
09-14-2010, 09:29 PM #402
-
09-14-2010, 09:30 PM #403
-
09-14-2010, 09:32 PM #404
-
-
09-14-2010, 09:36 PM #405
-
09-14-2010, 09:44 PM #406
-
09-14-2010, 10:00 PM #407
-
09-14-2010, 10:03 PM #408
-
-
09-14-2010, 10:04 PM #409
-
09-14-2010, 10:16 PM #410
-
09-14-2010, 10:19 PM #411
- Join Date: Jun 2010
- Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Age: 52
- Posts: 56
- Rep Power: 171
For me, eating clean means hitting my macros (and making sure there's enough fibre/not too much salt, saturates etc).
Pretty much every Friday I have seafood nachos with a load of tortilla chips, cheddar cheese, king prawns, jalpenos, spring onions etc. Always manage to fit it into my macros plus it keeps me sane.My Fitness Blog - Pains, Gains and Taking Names - http://trainingandgoodnutrition.blogspot.com/
myprotein.com referrers code - MP222844
-
09-14-2010, 10:40 PM #412
- Join Date: Aug 2008
- Location: Rancho Palos Verdes, California, United States
- Age: 35
- Posts: 197
- Rep Power: 202
fat people shouldn't mutter on these types of diets unless they have self sufficient proof. This thread is too far along for repair.
cals in cals out.
night.I don't feel Pain,
I don't feel Anything anymore,
Until My Purpose be realized.
Within me lies the soul of a gladiator, and the heart of a lion.
-
-
09-15-2010, 03:08 AM #413
- Join Date: Jun 2005
- Location: Sarasota, Florida, United States
- Posts: 24,829
- Rep Power: 80661
As an Aragon acolyte, I felt obliged to drop this AA quote all up in here:
"I often reminisce about having a pint of Hagen Daaz (discontinued flavor: honey vanilla or New York Superfudge Chunk) every single night right before bed. This of course was after I biked to school, then biked to work, then biked my ass back home. I would make a stop at 7-11 and get the beloved pint of ice cream. I was leaner than I ever was in my life.""Nutrition for powerlifting: If you are serious about it, you will eat f*cking everything and get strong as $hit." - HamburgerTrain
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163165741
-
09-15-2010, 04:45 AM #414
-
09-15-2010, 12:32 PM #415
FIRST:
what constitutes 'clean', and for whom is this constituted? what is this persons goals?
you're posting this on a bodybuilding forum, so considerations will be different depending whether your audience is sculpting, powerlifting, training for a triathalon or sports, trying to lose weight, or trying to ensure a prolonged, healthy life. also, does this person have any health conditions? should 'clean' take into account a family history of heart disease, or high blood pressure?
clean, seems like a subjective term that, when used so vaguely, will certainly elicit a vast array of emotional responses from such a broad audience.
SECOND:
what's on the pizza? what's the portion? how often is it eaten during the week (srs, not throwing out the twinkie for B-L-D extreme argument)? are you arguing they just need to meet their macros? if so, i revert back to the 'FIRST' section, who this is for, as macros don't take excess sodium, sugars, or preservatives* into account (correct me if i'm wrong here - i could be). also, while i'm thinking about it, terms like 'moderation' should be avoided on this forum.
*yes, i left out transfat
THIRD:
just curious, but what are you hoping to accomplish here? i apologize if i missed it, but throughout this thread, i've failed to find a solid, well thought-out argument; one that took the aforementioned things into consideration so as to avoid these snarky and frustrated remarks you take issue with.
-
09-15-2010, 12:57 PM #416
-
-
09-15-2010, 01:30 PM #417
thanks, but i was actually addressing hooked4life and his statements as he's lead what might be considered the opposition here, or at least what everyone might agree as the unpopular argument within the context of bodybuilding.
also, no disrespect to alan, but i think the statement above is what many would consider common sense with regards to nutrition, particularly for the masses (ie. not bodybuilders) and does little to support or refute the 'eat clean' argument that myself and many are trying to make sense of here - but i could be wrong. in my opinion, the absent axiom of what constitues 'clean' and who the target audience is, is a bad foundation for this debate and what i think needs clarification. i think once this is done, you'll have a lot more contibutors here agreeing. in fact, most of the 'clean' eaters here mention cheat meals (there's your hedge-betting), so the agreement may already be implicit.
-
09-15-2010, 02:25 PM #418
- Join Date: Dec 2006
- Location: Los Angeles, California, United States
- Posts: 13,281
- Rep Power: 10808
No idea, and that's the point. I asked for a list of dirty food, and I got the standard bro list of dirty food. I picked on pizza - nobody can say why it's dirty because it's not. But, you can be guaranteed that it's on every bro list of dirty food. You're making exactly my point here.
Would it matter on any of those? If so why.
Yup!
Two pieces of medium sized pizza with nothing nuts on them. Every day. Trainee is a decent muscled male who works out regularly. I detailed this in the question.
Thank you.
Look around the threads of on this forum and I think you'll be able to figure out why I would want people to not be insane about food.
Also, I'd add you've not even attempted to explain why the pizza would be bad."And Those Who Were Seen Dancing Were Thought to be Insane by Those Who Could Not Hear the Music."
-
09-15-2010, 02:43 PM #419
-
09-15-2010, 02:54 PM #420
Once 'clean' is defined, and for whom, then i will provide a clear argument why it is bad.. OR i'll provide one why it isn't. I'm indifferent on the issue. In fact, I hate either/or's and may argue neither, but I'm unable to do that at this point.
Providing I understand your intent ITT, which I've tried to make clear is considerably difficult, i'm not challenging your point. I'm merely stating that i cannot answer your question until it is clearly defined.
I have taken into consideration that you are trying to make a subtle point using vagueness as a tool, but given the last 15 pages, and your consistancy, i've since rule that out.
Similar Threads
-
binge cheating while clean eating
By thumbmaster in forum Losing FatReplies: 3Last Post: 12-12-2004, 05:39 PM -
Clean Eating...Myth or reality
By Winged Muscle in forum NutritionReplies: 5Last Post: 05-13-2004, 01:54 PM -
Clean Eating Condiments
By kondik00 in forum Losing FatReplies: 25Last Post: 03-26-2004, 10:05 PM -
Clean eating while at school....
By DerekJ in forum SupplementsReplies: 16Last Post: 08-26-2003, 07:00 PM -
Can someone define "clean eating"
By lvtrojan in forum NutritionReplies: 2Last Post: 01-24-2003, 10:29 PM
Bookmarks