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    -The plane bounced off the grass shortly before striking the Pentagon
    -The plane disintegrated due to high speed, fireball and resulting inferno, and thick reinforced walls
    -Any debris (very little) left behind was scattered on the lawn or traveled to the inner rings of the Pentagon
    -CT's can be psychologically considered paranoid schizophrenics and should seek mental health treatment
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    Originally Posted by IraHays View Post
    The camera wasn't set up to capture images moving at 500mph. There is really no question what hit the Pentagon. WTC 7 and the WTC's to some extent I can see questions, but the questioning what hit the Pentagon blows my mind.
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    Originally Posted by IraHays View Post
    Pic too small.

    But I think you're trying to show the hole on the inner rings? Like explained before this was caused by the 800lb+ front landing gear travelling at 500+ MPH.
    ohhh. so the landing gear was actually down or did it come unattached on impact?
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    Originally Posted by bzman View Post
    no plane ever hit the pentagon bro. Just come to accept it and move on. nothing we can do to stop the government now. They have too much control and can pretty much do anything they want. Welcome to the new modern age
    So explain how people never again saw the people that were on the flight.

    I show up to the airport to pick up my friend, then find out the plane was hijacked and my firend is dead. Only there was no plane hijacking or crash. WTF happened to my friend?
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    Originally Posted by PerfectFormForever View Post
    Planes disappear, buildings blocks away from ground zero collapse, this stuff happens bro.
    engines do not my good man.
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    Originally Posted by thegodjr View Post
    wtf do you mean why did it collapse from where the planes hit? You make no sense. If you are going to bring a building down, you attack it at the base, not the top, you phucking dumbass.

    The twin towers were the ONLY two buildings in history that got destroyed due to planes hitting them. Explain that one brochacho.
    LOL NO SHIIT BRAH. so why didnt it collapse from the base if they saw explosions? you sure they wernt talking about the original attack?

    link me to other incidents where planes of that size hit other buildings.
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    Originally Posted by Galvatorex View Post
    engines do not my good man.
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    Originally Posted by swearujacked View Post
    I live near the pentagon. A friend's dad saw the plane hit. He had to go to therapy afterwards b/c that sh!t disturbed him.
    im pretty sure the "therapy" was to erase his memory of seeing rocket hit it and put a plane in place.
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    Originally Posted by thegodjr View Post
    Not irrelevant, tell me how the hell a building that has been burning for what, 15 minutes can collapse but other buildings get hit and burn for hours and don't collapse? Pretty good logic if you ask me.
    It's bad logic because not all buildings were built the same and no other buildings have had passenger jets used against them in an attack. It's very bad logic.

    Anyhow, you are asking me to tell you how the buildings fell? Do you know what the official theory is?



    Originally Posted by thegodjr View Post
    Also, what about the eyewitness testimonies who claim to hear/see explosions at the base of the tower? HUH HUH HUH?
    I'm sure people did hear what sounded like explosions. Remember a 100 storie building had just been hit by a jet. I'm sure lots of loud noises were being made. Anyhow, all those "explosions" were heard well before the buildings collapsed. If it were explosives, how could they explode and the building not collapse at the time of the explosion???

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    Originally Posted by sbsponger View Post
    ohhh. so the landing gear was actually down or did it come unattached on impact?
    Unattached on impact. I can't imagine it could have been down at those speeds.
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    Some things don't add up about what happened that day...


    but sadly there wont ever be 100% proof either way, so there's no point in putting much more thought into it.
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    Originally Posted by IraHays View Post
    I'm sure people did hear what sounded like explosions. Remember a 100 storie building had just been hit by a jet. I'm sure lots of loud noises were being made. Anyhow, all those "explosions" were heard well before the buildings collapsed. If it were explosives, how could they explode and the building not collapse at the time of the explosion???

    huh huh huh?????
    Not to mention these people were probably in shock, had no idea what was going on. Which would mess with their heads/memory.
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    Originally Posted by AboveAverage View Post
    If you guys actually believe that a plane hit the Pentagon, the gov't has succeeded in covering everything up.

    it's ****ing awesome how a building with 3,000 CCTV camera's pointed at it at all times releases a video, sorry, 3 frames, that show not even a pixel of an airplane.
    The Pentagon is a military installation. Releasing footage of the plane hitting it would be showing military weakness and inspiring to the perpetrators.

    However, showing the towers being hit over and over creates a huge amount of propaganda to feed the public and have them get behind the war.
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    so what do you think really happened OP?
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    Holy **** I never realized how precise that Pentagon crash was. Didn't even scrape the turf, wtf. Strong Haji flight sim addict.
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    I dunno, i can see both sides of the argument to be honest. the people who say the plane disintigrated have a point, im sure that is possible. i just dont see it based on the evidence we have to work with. I see a lot of things that dont add up (hole in pentagon would suggested only the tip went through the building, but if that happened it would be visible, no pictures of the plane, etc etc)

    good to see both sides posting though.

    funny how just bringing it up makes me "ZOMG crazy hippy CT!!"
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    Originally Posted by compan View Post
    link me to other incidents where planes of that size hit other buildings.
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    Originally Posted by thegodjr View Post
    Also explain why there are no holes where the wings/engine hit?

    And how there are a rediculous amount of eyewitness testemonies stating there were explosions at the base of the twin towers?
    There were holes where the landing gear impacted the building.

    There were "explosions" at the base of the building because the upper floors were pancaking on top of one other blowing out the windows in the lobby and floors below them due to the pressure change.
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    Originally Posted by machx View Post
    so what do you think really happened OP?
    i have no idea, it just doesnt look like a plane hit the pentagon.. im not trying to convince people of anything... i just don't see the impact being a 757... that all i am trying to say.
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    Originally Posted by thegodjr View Post
    Not irrelevant, tell me how the hell a building that has been burning for what, 15 minutes can collapse but other buildings get hit and burn for hours and don't collapse? Pretty good logic if you ask me.

    Also, what about the eyewitness testimonies who claim to hear/see explosions at the base of the tower? HUH HUH HUH?
    1. it burned longer than 15 minutes.
    2. what other buildings of the same dimensions were hit by the same size planes are you referring to? please...let me know.
    3. again, do you know which attack they are referring to? the original attack that HAD explosions at the base? or 9/11 which those explosions being heard could be from a number of things. could somebody mistake a large bang of, oh say, a filing cabinet falling and echoing? maybe beams breaking? how about smaller explosions of flammable things inside the towers?


    not to mention these eye witnesses probably dont know wtf they are talking about. look at the columbine shooting. most of all eye witnesses had different accounts of what happened ie: # of shooters, weapons, etc. yeah they were there, but they all had different stories. CONSPIRACY?!?!?! or just shock.
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    Originally Posted by compan View Post
    LOL NO SHIIT BRAH. so why didnt it collapse from the base if they saw explosions? you sure they wernt talking about the original attack?

    link me to other incidents where planes of that size hit other buildings.
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    Originally Posted by _Watson_ View Post
    Some things don't add up about what happened that day...


    but sadly there wont ever be 100% proof either way, so there's no point in putting much more thought into it.
    so the fuk what, sh*t happens all the time and things often dont add up the way you would think. but we are human, there is 100% proof that a plane hit the pentagon..but you dont want to believe in that proof or the proof isnt enough for a brain of your size.
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    I don't know why people bother trying to determine minute details about exactly what happened at the Pentagon. There are some things that won't ever be verified. I don't doubt that there were planes or hijackers. I think it would be more relevant to follow the money and to see who was ultimately responsible for financing the hijackers. You will get your answers that way.
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    i made this piece of **** artwork from that previous video. We do infact see a white object (I've labeled it as "plane"despite not knowing what it is) headed towards the pentagon at a high rate of speed. However, given the scale of the pentagon and surroundings in that video, the white object does not match the scale of the jet used. And some how it is flying 100% parallel to the ground, which to me doesn't make sense. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it's would be very hard for a terrorist to do who doesn't have years of practice all the time under his belt. And as they are no where near as maneuverable as fighter jets, it would take a lot of room to get it that low and fly parallel. In which case..why didn't anyone see this big jet hauling ass right at ground level from a mile or more out..I don't know what is the truth and what is a lie, but I do know neither are 100% for this whole tragedy. It's not all lies. And it's not all truth.


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    I watched a program on TV called 9/11 ripple effect you should be able to find it on you tube. It's around an hour + long but it's definitely worth it. all your questions should be answered.
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    Originally Posted by iForce Dave View Post
    i have no idea, it just doesnt look like a plane hit the pentagon.. im not trying to convince people of anything... i just don't see the impact being a 757... that all i am trying to say.
    so if it wasn't a plane - was it a bomb? what difference would it make? just trying to see where you're going with it?
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    Originally Posted by thegodjr View Post
    wow. any credibility you did have, you just lost. would you care to link me to something besides loose change on youtube? again, a case where two towers similar to the WTC were hit by planes the same size?
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    Originally Posted by AboveAverage View Post
    -Terrorists attack U.S.A.
    -U.S.A. has reason to invade Afghanistan and basically ANY other Middle Eastern country because they can just BS and say there are Al Quaeda / Taliban there.
    -no WMD's
    -U.S.A. takes oil
    -???
    -Profit

    How convenient.
    -Government plots attack on it's own soild and murders 3,000 of it's own people
    -Forgets to plant WMD's in Iraq.


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