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    L-Arginine

    Is this what gives the pumps in NO2 products?

    I am looking for something to give me pumps, but I work out at night and don't want to be tossing and turning all night because of stims.


    thanks in advance for any advice.
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    Originally Posted by gHOstFiZZle View Post
    Is this what gives the pumps in NO2 products?

    I am looking for something to give me pumps, but I work out at night and don't want to be tossing and turning all night because of stims.


    thanks in advance for any advice.
    No, it's not. Though many people are under the mistaken impression it does.

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    Thanks, I'll check it out.
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    Hmm, if that is true (refering to thread in link) then why do Maximize, SuperPump250, WF and similar products actually yield larger pumps? No extra NO2, but something in those products pumps you up more.
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    if you want just a pure pump product, then hemavol or plasmatic are what youre looking for.
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    Originally Posted by gHOstFiZZle View Post
    Hmm, if that is true (refering to thread in link) then why do Maximize, SuperPump250, WF and similar products actually yield larger pumps? No extra NO2, but something in those products pumps you up more.

    This is somewhat covered in the linked thread by NO HYPE in regards to a similar question someone raised there.
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    Originally Posted by -MSR9889- View Post
    if you want just a pure pump product, then hemavol or plasmatic are what youre looking for.
    +1... But in reality, F*** the Pump. The pump does not make you stronger, the pump does not lift the weight. The pump is just a pump, a side effect of putting the muscles under duress, and it will go away. Hell, if you want a cheap pump lift some ultra light weights, and use 100 rep sets....there's your pump, no pills or powder required.
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    Well, there are studies that say arginine improves NO pathways and ones that say it doesn't. So who knows.
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    Originally Posted by MCrow View Post
    Well, there are studies that say arginine improves NO pathways and ones that say it doesn't. So who knows.
    The ones saying it does are outdated. With new research comes better findings.

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    Originally Posted by ricka182 View Post
    +1... But in reality, F*** the Pump. The pump does not make you stronger, the pump does not lift the weight. The pump is just a pump, a side effect of putting the muscles under duress, and it will go away. Hell, if you want a cheap pump lift some ultra light weights, and use 100 rep sets....there's your pump, no pills or powder required.

    Personally, for me I just feel more motivated when I am pumped and the pumps seem to be a bit bigger then with just weights alone. Honestly, I haven't worked out for almost 4 months, due to injury + illness and I am 17 lbs under my normal weight. I feel completely deflated. I joined a gym yesterday and worked out for the first time, and just want the placebo effect of looking a bit more jacked.
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    Originally Posted by bigasssnowman View Post
    If that's the case then carbs and more carbs are the way to go.
    Along with plenty of water intake.

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    Originally Posted by gHOstFiZZle View Post
    Personally, for me I just feel more motivated when I am pumped and the pumps seem to be a bit bigger then with just weights alone. Honestly, I haven't worked out for almost 4 months, due to injury + illness and I am 17 lbs under my normal weight. I feel completely deflated. I joined a gym yesterday and worked out for the first time, and just want the placebo effect of looking a bit more jacked.
    Then try a long up-pyramid scheme. I did this for 5 weeks, and made steady progress, while feeling pumped every day. Start with a very low-weight and do 2-3 sets of 15-20 reps to get a pump going. Then move to mid-heavy weights with 8-12 reps, 2 sets. Then move on to heavy-ass weight, 3 sets, 3 reps each. You'll feel pumped from the get go, and make progress steadily on the weights moving up..

    I've also done a routine hitting the big 4 groups 2x a week. First day would be for strength with heavy-ass weight, 2 days later for hypertrophy and pump with low weights and higher reps...

    Also remember, low weight reps should be performed very slowly, like 5 seconds up, 5 seconds down. On the other side, heavy-ass weights should be exploded up with all your rage and fury, like there is nothing will stop you from getting what you want.. Take time in between sets as well. In between high rep sets break for only 30-45 seconds, mid-weight sets break for 60-90 seconds, and heavy-ass weight sets break for 90-120+ in between sets...
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    Thanks for the advise.

    I'll up my carb intake and try alternating heavy and light weight.

    I will probably do low weight higher reps for the next week or so, to break myself in again. My almost 33 year old muscles are already crying from lastnight, lol.
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