supps for getting rid of fat but not muscle?

[Grantonner]

anyone know of any products that will help get rid of some fat while lifting heavy still? what im asking is there something that can assist in leaning out while gaining strength?

[lovehasrisen]

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[Grantonner]

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[RyannayR]

Add more cardio, but don't let your heart rate too high. Take more BCAA's to maintain muscle you already have.

[Lector606]

Lose the weight with diet and cardio. BCAAs will help prevent catabolism. Nutrabolics has an awesome intra-workout product called Aminocell that has BCAAs, creatine, cordyceps, and some great nootropics.

Low carb diet + low intensity cardio as often as you can (~60%MHR) = leaner w/no muscle loss, but you diet has to be seriously on point.

Otherwise I also like the high expenditure+ high intake approach: eat a pro/carb meal in the AM, go do some intervals, then do your weights in the evening. No need to cut carbs because your metabolism will be fired up all day.

[morris_kg]

If your looking for something supp wise, look into an EC stack. But RESEARCH the hell out of it before actually using it. It will be nothing without a good diet/cardio

[iForce Dave]

TT-33 would be great, Lean Xtreme would be a great stack with it. If you are really concerned about muscle preservation try to be easy on the stimulants and use BCAAs to bookend your training and cardio.

[NattyDisaster]

I would take alpha-t2 ....if you have the $$ stack it with lean xtreme. Both muscle sparing...both very beneficial...both work differently

[2ripp3dup]

Diet and cardio.

[2high2die]

C ould L ose E xtreme N umbers

[BRC1989]

Keeping a high protein diet while eating ~500 calories below maintenence and with LISS/HIIT cardio will help you do cut BF and maintain muscle.

[UHCougar05]

C ould L ose E xtreme N umbers

Yeah, that's just what he needs at 17.

[HTML_Rulez_D00d]

TT-33 would be great, Lean Xtreme would be a great stack with it. If you are really concerned about muscle preservation try to be easy on the stimulants and use BCAAs to bookend your training and cardio.

brb marketing a product after t-3 by using the same letter and number twice to fool the consumer.

[lovehasrisen]

Yeah, that's just what he needs at 17.

Thank you. Hope he was just pulling off an April fools!..

[Opies]

Ephedrine.

Don't waste your money on branded and marketed fat burners.

[NattyDisaster]

Ephedrine.

Don't waste your money on branded and marketed fat burners.

That stuff makes me shake like crazy

[Chazk]

Check out Slin-Sane. If your looking to keep your diet around the same and lose some bf but still have energy from a good source of carbs so your strength will remain the same if not increase than this product is for you.

[Lector606]

Ephedrine.

Don't waste your money on branded and marketed fat burners.

Very effective... but for a 17 year old who doesn't seem to know much about training?

[Opies]

Very effective... but for a 17 year old who doesn't seem to know much about training?

shouldn't be taking any supps in the first place, but still better off to take a bit of ephedrine then dump money into some branded product that doesn't even work

[Grantonner]

I've seen a few stacks from another planet that look pretty good, lean xtreme+tt-33, lx+alpha-t2, a-t2+lx. Anyone have any experience with any of these? Which one would help most with my goal from OP? Btw thanks for all the advise and responses.

[captainmo55]

Keeping a high protein diet while eating ~500 calories below maintenence and with LISS/HIIT cardio will help you do cut BF and maintain muscle.

so what would be a good cal range for a 180 lb guy lookin to cut? And how much should be protein/fat/carbs

I've never had a successfully cut

[douglasbarbin]

so what would be a good cal range for a 180 lb guy lookin to cut? And how much should be protein/fat/carbs

I've never had a successfully cut

For how long are you looking to cut? For short term, a keto diet works great but it's not really something most people can (or would want to) sustain. For keto, you're gonna want to keep carbohydrate intake around 20g for at least the first week or two, then slowly go up and keep testing yourself with KetoStix to make sure you stay in ketosis. Otherwise, the most common macros are 40/40/20, with 20% being dietary fat and the 40/40 being carbs/protein. 1g per pound of body weight is a good amount of protein, so figure it out from there if you want to follow that plan.

So you could figure that roughly 180g of protein per day would be good for maintenance or maybe even slight bulking. Since you want an equal amount of carbs, that would be 180g of carbs. And since you want half as much dietary fat (20% fat, as opposed to 40% protein/40% carb), that would be 90g fat. Now, 1g carbs = 4 calories. 1g protein = 4 calories. And 1g fat = 9 calories. So your formula would be (180 * 4) + (180 * 4) + (90 * 9) = 2250 calories needed to maintain current weight or put on slight muscle. 500 below that would 1750 calories. Try that, and if that doesn't work, drop to either 1500 or 1250, depending on how you feel and what you feel your body is capable of. If you drop down to 1250, it is virtually impossible to not lose weight, from my experience.

[poonage234]

For how long are you looking to cut? For short term, a keto diet works great but it's not really something most people can (or would want to) sustain. For keto, you're gonna want to keep carbohydrate intake around 20g for at least the first week or two, then slowly go up and keep testing yourself with KetoStix to make sure you stay in ketosis. Otherwise, the most common macros are 40/40/20, with 20% being dietary fat and the 40/40 being carbs/protein. 1g per pound of body weight is a good amount of protein, so figure it out from there if you want to follow that plan.

So you could figure that roughly 180g of protein per day would be good for maintenance or maybe even slight bulking. Since you want an equal amount of carbs, that would be 180g of carbs. And since you want half as much dietary fat (20% fat, as opposed to 40% protein/40% carb), that would be 90g fat. Now, 1g carbs = 4 calories. 1g protein = 4 calories. And 1g fat = 9 calories. So your formula would be (180 * 4) + (180 * 4) + (90 * 9) = 2250 calories needed to maintain current weight or put on slight muscle. 500 below that would 1750 calories. Try that, and if that doesn't work, drop to either 1500 or 1250, depending on how you feel and what you feel your body is capable of. If you drop down to 1250, it is virtually impossible to not lose weight, from my experience.

isnt 1750 a bit too much?? hes 180 i think he would drop muscle mass with those few 1750 cals dont u think? i was 186 on a cut atm eating around 2000cals and im into my second month and ive dropped 11lbs arleady i think 1750 is too low

[ratmonkey]

i hear dietbol is excellet for losing fat.

[aussieangie]

Lose the weight with diet and cardio. BCAAs will help prevent catabolism. Nutrabolics has an awesome intra-workout product called Aminocell that has BCAAs, creatine, cordyceps, and some great nootropics.

Low carb diet + low intensity cardio as often as you can (~60%MHR) = leaner w/no muscle loss, but you diet has to be seriously on point.

Otherwise I also like the high expenditure+ high intake approach: eat a pro/carb meal in the AM, go do some intervals, then do your weights in the evening. No need to cut carbs because your metabolism will be fired up all day.

Agreed ^^^^^^

[05impalaSS]

i hear dietbol is excellet for losing fat.

Where can I get this so called supplement? Who makes it?

[pu12en12g]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=379131
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance...R+BODYBUILDING
http://www.tmuscle.com/portal_includ...-training.html

[gregor7777]

What ephedrine product would you guys recommend?

[ragingcrayon]

C ould L ose E xtreme N umbers

very bad 4 ur heart dude. at any age.

[SwolenONE]

ThermaPhoria is one of few supps that increases fat loss and muscle gain.