lol @ cops asking for permit for an unloaded open carry firearm

[BigJohnny999]

Dude is a moron. That's all

[sugarshaneh]

call me crazy, but thats probably why he asked for your ID. idk about where you are from, but here, if you are asked to ID yourself, then its the law to do so. if not, you can be put into jail until they figure out who you are, best bet is to just ID yourself. none of your "rights" that everyone thinks they have a billion of are being infringed upon.

Here all I need to give up is my SSN. What if I didn't have an ID? I wasn't driving and it's not required to carry an ID at all times. I was just walking from the music store during summer.

Sure best bet for some would be to just give up the ID. However my blood boils when called a thief. Compound that with my authority complex, and we had a problem.

[indian23]

Im sorry everyone here is way smarter and knows so much more then me you guys should defend our country and then Police the streets of a ****ed up city. A bunch of miscers who live with mommy and daddy want to use the 2nd amendment for everything. You walk a day in my shoes and your views would change

this

[anonymous]

Yet no statistics support this belief.

Actually there is, in Japan there are strict strict gun laws, in essence no one can possess guns, except for hunters and they are very bounded. Japan has much much lower crime rates then us and their gun crime rates are virtually non-existent. Bottom line, if we outlaw guns and have heavy reductions in their supply, there will be less crime and less gun crime.

[boroballa0515]

Im sorry everyone here is way smarter and knows so much more then me you guys should defend our country and then Police the streets of a ****ed up city. A bunch of miscers who live with mommy and daddy want to use the 2nd amendment for everything. You walk a day in my shoes and your views would change

with u brah...Scheisse sounds just like the **** in the vid who interprets laws strict/loose depending on the situation hes in...i cant stand p***ies who hide behind laws and rights to try and act tough...respect to u marine, intelligent people appreciate ur doings...try that **** in south tx lol

[byates5637]

In Washington DC he would have been shot on sight if he didnt listen to the first verbal command given. Im glad its cut and dry in the city that I police in. No guns period.

Fuk you pig.

Why don't you try getting a productive job instead of just being a tax leech?

[Lolwadupdawg]

I agree. The police should learn this as well.

agree but then again they get treated like shiit all day so i would be pissed off aswell

jus' saying

[jamesk20]

cliffs






disregard police











acquire video camera

[Scheisse]

Actually there is, in Japan there are strict strict gun laws, in essence no one can possess guns, except for hunters and they are very bounded. Japan has much much lower crime rates then us and their gun crime rates are virtually non-existent. Bottom line, if we outlaw guns and have heavy reductions in their supply, there will be less crime and less gun crime.

Anect****ingdotal evidence, ftl. Again.

That's not a statistic, that's a data point.

Bottom line is, gun ownership rates and crime rates are not correlated.

The only thing you've said that has any veracity at all is that gun crime may be reduced (and I believe I have stated this in the thread already). However, this simply means that homicides and robberies which would have been committed with a gun will be committed using another weapon. If you are arguing that you think being stabbed to death is better than being shot, then you win, brah. If you are concerned about crime rates, however, you are simply wrong.

[NaturalC]

Actually there is, in Japan there are strict strict gun laws, in essence no one can possess guns, except for hunters and they are very bounded. Japan has much much lower crime rates then us and their gun crime rates are virtually non-existent. Bottom line, if we outlaw guns and have heavy reductions in their supply, there will be less crime and less gun crime.

Isn't there also a European country with open carry gun laws with an extremely low crime rate as well?

[stracin]

DC is the first place citizens should be carrying if we look at the context of the constitution.

[Scheisse]

Isn't there also a European country with open carry gun laws with an extremely low crime rate as well?

Yes.

Switzerland, for example (which, until recently, required every homeowner to keep an assault rifle in the home).

[Lolwadupdawg]

Fuk you pig.

Why don't you try getting a productive job instead of just being a tax leech?

what have you done with your life that makes you better than him?

[Caspahh]

In Washington DC he would have been shot on sight if he didnt listen to the first verbal command given. Im glad its cut and dry in the city that I police in. No guns period.

negged for being a stupid piece of sh!t

[Scheisse]

gun ownership rates/gun supply are directly correlated to crime im sorry but you're wrong. And its not anecdotal, theres many more cases, japan is not the only one.

No.

"Countries with the strictest gun-control laws also tended to have the highest
homicide rates. "

-- Violence, Guns and Drugs: A Cross-Country Analysis, Jeffery A. Miron, Department of Economics,
Boston University, University of Chicago Press Journal of Law & Economics, October 2001.

[tarheelblue0378]

what have you done with your life that makes you better than him?

dont...feed...troll...

[mashir]

Actually there is, in Japan there are strict strict gun laws, in essence no one can possess guns, except for hunters and they are very bounded. Japan has much much lower crime rates then us and their gun crime rates are virtually non-existent. Bottom line, if we outlaw guns and have heavy reductions in their supply, there will be less crime and less gun crime.

Isn't there also a European country with open carry gun laws with an extremely low crime rate as well?

This. Let's try something. Replace the words from the top paragraph as follows. Every bit of this is completely factual:

Actually there is, in Switzerland there are lax lax gun laws, in essence every household possesses guns, including hunters and they are not at all bounded. Switzerland has much much lower crime rates then us and their gun crime rates are equally much lower. Bottom line, if we outlaw guns and have heavy reductions in their supply, there will be no reason to believe there would be less crime and less gun crime.

Make more sense now?

[liftyeah]

Actually there is, in Japan there are strict strict gun laws, in essence no one can possess guns, except for hunters and they are very bounded. Japan has much much lower crime rates then us and their gun crime rates are virtually non-existent. Bottom line, if we outlaw guns and have heavy reductions in their supply, there will be less crime and less gun crime.

Japan/Germany had strict gun laws.....see what happened to them?

Switzerland has better gun laws.


Different countries, different cultures. Apples to Carrots, not even Apples to Oranges. You are comparing on a whole different level.

with u brah...Scheisse sounds just like the **** in the vid who interprets laws strict/loose depending on the situation hes in...i cant stand p***ies who hide behind laws and rights to try and act tough...respect to u marine, intelligent people appreciate ur doings...try that **** in south tx lol

brb consentiing to every search

[paleozoic]

Fuk you pig.

Why don't you try getting a productive job instead of just being a tax leech?

wow, strong hate brah... chill out..

Actually there is, in Japan there are strict strict gun laws, in essence no one can possess guns, except for hunters and they are very bounded. Japan has much much lower crime rates then us and their gun crime rates are virtually non-existent. Bottom line, if we outlaw guns and have heavy reductions in their supply, there will be less crime and less gun crime.

bottom line is the right to bear arms is in the constitution... outlawing guns would make the entire constitution null and void... you cannot pick the parts of it you want to enforce...

education and parenting are the two biggest dangers in this country... if you take away guns, people will use knives or anything they can... our society as a whole has gone down hill since the 60's... i guess all that free love didnt catch on...

[Scheisse]

"The crime rate is 66% higher in four Canadian Prairie Provinces than in the
northern US states across the border."

-- A Comparison of Violent and Firearm Crime Rates in the Canadian Prairie Provinces and Four U.S.
Border States, 1961-2003, Parliamentary Research Branch of the Library of Parliament, March 7, 2005.

" Many of the countries with the strictest gun control have the highest rates of violent
crime. Australia and England, which have virtually banned gun ownership, have the
highest rates of robbery, sexual assault, and assault with force of the top 17 industrialized
countries. "

--Criminal Victimization in Seventeen Industrialized Countries, Dutch Ministry of Justice, 2001.

" Internationally speaking “There’s no clear relationship between more guns and
higher levels of violence.” "
-- Small Arms Survey Project, Keith Krause, Graduate Institute of International Studies, Geneva, 2007

“... a detailed study of the major surveys completed in the past 20 years or more
provides no evidence of any relationship between the total number of legally held
firearms in society and the rate of armed crime. Nor is there a relationship between the
severity of controls imposed in various countries or the mass of bureaucracy involved
with many control systems with the apparent ease of access to firearms by criminals and
terrorists.”
-- Minutes of Evidence, Colin Greenwood, Select Committee on Northern Ireland Affairs, January 29,
2003

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[OldeEnglish800]

Oh lawds the people in this video are in for a difficult life with that level of disrespect to authority

[anonymous]

" Many of the countries with the strictest gun control have the highest rates of violent crime. Australia and England, which have virtually banned gun ownership, have the highest rates of robbery, sexual assault, and assault with force of the top 17 industrialized countries. "

Homicide Rates:

Switzerland: 2.26 per 100,000
England: 1.37 per 100,000
Australia 1.2 per 100,000

[Scheisse]

Homicide Rates:

Switzerland: 2.26 per 100,000
England: 1.37 per 100,000
Australia 12 per 100,000

lol

and????

edit: so, Australia, which has stricter laws than switzerland, has nearly 6x homicides. GJAustraliaM

[Scheisse]

strong correlation is...not...strong

[anonymous]

lol

and????

edit: so, Australia, which has stricter laws than switzerland, has nearly 6x homicides. GJAustraliaM

1.2 not 12 missed the decimal

[anonymous]

strong correlation is...not...strong

theres other factors that come into play such as religion, territorial wars in certain countries, etc. but less guns = less murder, once we realize that hopefully we'll get stricter laws. im out.

[Scheisse]

theres other factors that come into play such as religion, territorial wars in certain countries, etc.

No ****. Which is why your argument is ignorant. Americans simply like to kill. Don't blame the guns.

but less guns = less murder, once we realize that hopefully we'll get stricter laws. im out.

I have just demonstrated that this is factually incorrect.

More fun stuff

[mashir]

theres other factors that come into play such as religion, territorial wars in certain countries, etc. but less guns = less murder, once we realize that hopefully we'll get stricter laws. im out.

you were doing such a great job of defending your stance though! As a matter of fact, you just directly refuted your own post claiming that less gun ownership in Japan was directly and inextricably correlated to lower crime rates.

Please, won't you stay?

[liftyeah]

1.2 not 12 missed the decimal

how about violent crime?

Any kind of violent crime + gun ownership/legality statistics

[Scheisse]

1.2 not 12 missed the decimal

"A ten year study that concluded Australian firearm confiscation had no effect on
crime rates. "
-- Gun Laws and Sudden Death: Did the Australian Firearms Legislation of 1996 Make a Difference?, Dr.
Jeanine Baker and Dr. Samara McPhedran, British Journal of Criminology, November 2006.